What can we realistically expect from this band at this point?

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

I agree with you here. Smile at you on SYW is amazing and still angry IMHO.

I disagree with you about the non-Mac sounding songs. That was part of the appeal to me especially when Christine left. Lindsey experimented some which turned out great IMHO.

Long distance dedication going out to jbrownsjr this morning:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtY7qaQVnmU

I just turned silver listening to it..

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

I must be weird. I prefer the SYW version of “Smile At You.” John’s playing is absolutely breathtaking.

that is the best part of it....

I also love the acoustic playing at the end. It struck me somehow as very Buckingham Nicks when I first heard it.

[secondhandchain]

Not a big fan of Say You Will. There are some good songs.
The ones I really dont like:

Illume (bland boring and obviously written so she can stay in her current 3 note range)

Running through the garden sounds like Rock a little voice . Song is grating.

Murrow and Come are ok but they are LB solo.

Bleed to love her lost something from the Dance version. It was much better

Silver Girl an ok little song but kinda boring.

Peacekeeper was a redo of Kodachrome and i was mortified when I heard it. How did know one say anything to LB?

All and all the loss of CM was badly felt here.

[mitzo]

Originally Posted by iamnotafraid

Cut Stevie's songs off SYW and the album turns out
to be a pretty good solo record for Mr. Buckingham.

Lol I always felt that her nine songs on SYW are Stevie's best solo album. I have always skipped all of Lindsey's songs on it except SYHA. They grate.

[secret love]

Originally Posted by mitzo

Lol I always felt that her nine songs on SYW are Stevie's best solo album. I have always skipped all of Lindsey's songs on it except SYHA. They grate.

Say You Will (and at a different point in time, Tusk) are the two albums that got me immersed in the Mac. Thrown Down is beautiful in its tragedy. Everybody Finds Out is a haunting rocker. Come is a profane rockaway masterpiece. Steal Your Heart Way contains Christine magic and is a true band song.

When are we going to hear My Mother's Rings by Stevie Nicks? On her next (and probably last) solo studio record? At a live Fleetwood Mac show as a surprise encore? Now that it has been confirmed that My Mother's Rings is a song title straight from the horse's (Nicks's) mouth announced or mentioned in passing, whatever, at a meet and greet...I'm darn curious, God dammit!

[secret love]

1. 24 Karat Gold Tour Stevie Nicks with Pretenders DVD by the end of May 2018
2. Buckingham McVie II before June 2019

Less likely:
1. Buckingham McVie II turns into Fleetwood Mac's Swansong
2. Stevie releases more than two new songs before she dies.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by secret love

1. 24 Karat Gold Tour Stevie Nicks with Pretenders DVD by the end of May 2018
2. Buckingham McVie II before June 2019

Less likely:
1. Buckingham McVie II turns into Fleetwood Mac's Swansong
2. Stevie releases more than two new songs before she dies.

1-I seriously doubt they...ANYONE would ever package a DVD set featuring two distinct artists(using that term loosely with OGB).
2- I think it's too soon for BV II, although I'd be thrilled with that.

1a- That SHOULD be what happens, but it's all up to OGB.
2a- I'm not crazy about the former, but welcome the latter.

[annabellee]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

2a- I'm not crazy about the former, but welcome the latter.

HMV! That's harsh, even for you!

I'm hoping for new music from all five together, without all of Stevie's mishigas. Another BMcV album would be great. A tour without an album would be the least desirable.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by annabellee

HMV! That's harsh, even for you! .

Well, they could go back to being very creative, with lots of output, if it wasn't for her holding them back. True?

[annabellee]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Well, they could go back to being very creative, with lots of output, if it wasn't for her holding them back. True?

There are five gears turning here. I'm not part of the machine. However, Stevie does look like she needs a little oil.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by annabellee

There are five gears turning here. I'm not part of the machine. However, Stevie does look like she needs a little oil.

Hahahahaha.. that really cracked me up...

I can see Mick put oil on her...

[annabellee]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

Hahahahaha.. that really cracked me up...

I can see Mick put oil on her...

Or cash.........

[Hawkeye]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Well, they could go back to being very creative, with lots of output, if it wasn't for her holding them back. True?

Nope. That statement couldn’t be more false. She’s not holding anything back. I’m favt she’s allowing for everyone in the band to do what they do best at this stage in their careers while simultaneously giving the fans the most of everything. She’s off doing a career best tour (without any exaggeration, although I’m sure you’d disagree) stevie touring AND buck/I’ve allowed for way more songs to be heard live in 2016/2017 then if the band had toured. Plus everyone and their mom noticehow all parties are much happier and less staged apart. Even Mick gets to have an outlet to play drums with his blues band.

But I can already here the false rebuttal:

“Well at least we’d get Fleetwood Mac touring with NEW material,
That were all deprived of because of stevie Nicks. Which couldn’t be further from the truth. This current decade has provided so much new Fleetwood Mac related music, this terrible dry spell narrative some on here love to bring up is just wrong. Stevie has released 2 long solo albums and toured behind both and played many live cuts from both albums. Even if you consider 24 KG not a real new album which I don’t see the logic behind at all, In Your Dreams is recent enough for me to consider stevie Nicks an artist still. Considering it Was realeased in her early 60s an age I would consider retirement age for most. And then there’s still 5 to 6 actual new songs between The 24 karat album and soundtracks.

But we got deprived of Fleetwood Mac new music you say. Well if you say that your joining the group of people who consider stevie the litmus test of what makes Something considered Fleetwood Mac. Because what I believe is we 110 percent got new Fleetwood Mac music in 2017 with the Buckingham McVie. Now that it’s not as new I can confidently consider carnival begin and too far gone to be in my top 20 or even 10 Fleetwood Mac songs. I don’t care what the cover says and neither should anyone on this site. The name on the cover of the album being a hang up for so many really baffles me. Stevie is not needed on this album. The 10 songs flow so well together, for all we know stevie may have ruined the flow?

I’m by no means trying to say we should all be greatful to stevie for providing us fans with the very best Scenerio to maximize the fans value in these late years of the band, but she sort of unintentionally has done just that, and I am.


The only legit reason I see for anyone being pissed at stevie is her almost downright disregard for her fans intelligence with her bs in interviews. I want to throw up as bad as some of you when she speaks in interviews. Her and the rest of the band really annoy me with the dishonesty and permenant act of “keep the peace in public” for the good of the band when they tour next. I think this is a group criticism or specifically mick maybe more then it is a purely stevie thing which some people seem to assume. It’s infuriating they just won’t be honest about the situation.

But at least from an ends justifying the means stand point Stevie’s actions have definitely been good for the Fleetwood Mac brand as a whole, at least pertaining to output. Stevie might be as delusional as you say, but your as delusional as her if you think she’s prevented any sort of output from happening, outside of “maybe” impacting the name one of the album cover.

[HomerMcvie]

[Buster]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

1-I seriously doubt they...ANYONE would ever package a DVD set featuring two distinct artists(using that term loosely with OGB).
2- I think it's too soon for BV II, although I'd be thrilled with that.

1a- That SHOULD be what happens, but it's all up to OGB.
2a- I'm not crazy about the former, but welcome the latter.

Oh she will outlive you, old man. She’s not holed up in some shack drinking whiskey out of a bag in a bottle sitting on a crapper all day posting obsessively about a band that stopped being a band 30 years ago.