The PR Stunt Theory

louielouie2000 · #1 12-12-2018, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

While I don't really disagree with any of your points, AGE is the thing that's going to keep this from happening. Who TF wants to tour at 80, croaking out EMBARRASSING notes, over and over?.

BB King, Pete Seeger, Leonard Cohen, Chuck Berry, Tony Bennett, Harry Belafonte, Burt Bacharach, Fats Domino, Loretta Lynn, Yoko Ono, Willie Nelson, Petula Clark, Jerry Lee Lewis, John Mayall, Buddy Guy, Kris Kristofferson, Bill Wyman... all of these people performed or are performing after 80... some after 90. So to say musicians have to pack it in after 80 is just completely untrue.

David · #2 12-12-2018, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000

BB King, Pete Seeger, Leonard Cohen, Chuck Berry, Tony Bennett, Harry Belafonte, Burt Bacharach, Fats Domino, Loretta Lynn, Yoko Ono, Willie Nelson, Petula Clark, Jerry Lee Lewis, John Mayall, Buddy Guy, Kris Kristofferson, Bill Wyman... all of these people performed or are performing after 80... some after 90. So to say musicians have to pack it in after 80 is just completely untrue.

Don't forget Jim Morrison, who would have been 80 had he not died young.

tsitopen · #3 12-12-2018, 09:17 AM

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Don't forget Jim Morrison, who would have been 80 had he not died young.

Clearly you still have it after all this time. Not sure about Steve

**jbrownsjr** · #4 12-12-2018, 10:00 AM

It's not a stunt. These people have become worse as they have aged. And as the bar for a certain 'life style" rising... creativity and art goes out the window for massive dollars.

It's a corporation, the product is overdone but yet still being sold. And the promoters are dictating how it will be sold.

reality

TheWildHeart67 · #5 12-12-2018, 10:43 AM

It's beyond embarrassing for all involved, at this point. All 5 of them have absolutely zero integrity.

ryan4136 · #6 12-12-2018, 11:25 AM

This is not a setup, the emotions are real. If it was a setup I think LB would've come out much more abrasive, and earlier for the drama, and they'd mention it in concert to get people riled up.

To those saying LB is being passive-aggressive in his comments. Damn right he is, now that the settlement is done, he's free.

More importantly he's free to speak in Stevie language. He knows what buttons he's pushing and it's by design. He's saying things in order to provoke a response in her.

To those thinking he and Chris are on good terms, I think that's far from accurate, but he wants Stevie to think so, but it clearly bothers her. I'm sure he's quite pissed at Chris, and she's far from innocent in this, at least not to the degree we want to believe she is. LB also knows he'll need Chris as an ally to get back in, which seems to already paying off.

John on the other hand, seems to be the one that realized how bad this move was, and would like to apologize, but everyone knows regardless of the decision his loyalty is to Mick. (Which is why LB leaked that Mick thought about replacing him to keep the tour going)

LB is smart, too smart for the rest, he knows exactly how to push buttons. In his younger years he did it to be a jerk, he's well versed at how to get each one going. Has he been a manipulator? Of course he has, now he's putting those skills to work for us the fans. (and his kids inheritance)

secondhandchain · #7 12-12-2018, 12:19 PM

PR stunt? At their ages? No way. People get more cranky and set in their ways (Stevie has turned into a bitter old hag) as they get older. This is real.

BombaySapphire3 · #8 12-12-2018, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000

BB King, Pete Seeger, Leonard Cohen, Chuck Berry, Tony Bennett, Harry Belafonte, Burt Bacharach, Fats Domino, Loretta Lynn, Yoko Ono, Willie Nelson, Petula Clark, Jerry Lee Lewis, John Mayall, Buddy Guy, Kris Kristofferson, Bill Wyman... all of these people performed or are performing after 80... some after 90. So to say musicians have to pack it in after 80 is just completely untrue.

In a band known for it's sublime harmonies that will now sound like frogs with strep throat or dying canines

I guess they could just lip synch to cuts from the Dance or Fleetwood Mac live.

louielouie2000 · #9 12-12-2018, 02:07 AM

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In a band known for it's sublime harmonies that will now sound like frogs with strep throat or dying canines

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That sure as hell won’t stop them. Stevie, Mick, and John will all perform until they physically can’t. Stevie will be doing twirls in her mobility scooter when she can no longer stand, mark my word!

It’s not like folks will stop going to see them, either. Even this karaoke tour is doing well. Nostalgia is a powerful drug.

HomerMcvie · #10 12-12-2018, 02:13 AM

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Nostalgia is a powerful drug.

Not for people who want the real thing.

HomerMcvie · #11 12-12-2018, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

In a band known for it's sublime harmonies that will now sound like frogs with strep throat or dying canines

I guess they could just lip synch to cuts from the Dance or Fleetwood Mac live.

THANK YOU!

It will all be lip synch, very soon.

They're THE BAND OF MY LIFE, but there's not much vocal life left in them. This isn't the blues, where you can just mumble your way through the songs.

FM 2021 - dirges from the funeral home tour.

HomerMcvie · #12 12-12-2018, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000

BB King, Pete Seeger, Leonard Cohen, Chuck Berry, Tony Bennett, Harry Belafonte, Burt Bacharach, Fats Domino, Loretta Lynn, Yoko Ono, Willie Nelson, Petula Clark, Jerry Lee Lewis, John Mayall, Buddy Guy, Kris Kristofferson, Bill Wyman... all of these people performed or are performing after 80... some after 90. So to say musicians have to pack it in after 80 is just completely untrue.

I never did belie he HE HE HEVE in miracles.

Try hitting those notes at 50, let alone 75 or 80.

It's already embarrassing...

secondhandchain · #13 12-13-2018, 12:39 AM

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I never did belie he HE HE HEVE in miracles.

Try hitting those notes at 50, let alone 75 or 80.

It's already embarrassing...

If that were Stevie's song that line would be unrecognizable notewise at this point. Think "would you STAY if they promised you heaven"

HomerMcvie · #14 12-13-2018, 01:05 AM

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If that were Stevie's song that line would be unrecognizable notewise at this point. Think "would you STAY if they promised you heaven"

Just like imagining her singing Chris' intro and break part of Eye of the World.

And her Don't Stop during the Unleashed Tour. It's bahhhhhhhh'd!

michelej1 · #15 12-13-2018, 01:58 PM

I agree that Lindsey’s disclosure of Chris’ email was a betrayal, but I am mad at her, so who cares. Plus, he is always doing sly things where she (the woman who burned her bridges in 20,000 of his interviews) is concerned.

Or maybe he had her permission to say she said that, to manipulate the others.