Fleetwood Mac 2013 Press

[Bandon]

Originally Posted by CADreaming

Yeah, me too.

But, I've calmed down since I first read this RS article. They're full of it. LOL.

We'll see what happens.

Honestly I think she knows there's time to record at least one of her songs by the tour kick-off more than four months from now. I can't believe that she would not at least include one of her own tracks on the new FM released songs for a variety of reasons including ego, financial. What happened to the famous "song vault?"

[MikeInNV]

I think we're reading too much into Stevie's comments which, as Michele said, are basically just off-the-cuff responses to an interviewer who clearly wants certain answers. He asks her about the 40-year anniversary of BN, and she says something to the effect that "Yeah it would be great to do something." Then he asks if she would reform the whole band, and she says "That would be a possibility." Then he goes to LB and tells him "Stevie says that the BN album should be re-released and that you should go on tour with Waddy and the gang." To me, it's much more the interviewer's idea than Stevie's, but now he's got LB wondering where Stevie's head is at. The interviewer is kind of like a little kid, playing mom and dad off one another to put ideas in their head.

[elle]

Originally Posted by CADreaming

Yeah - okay. Why would you think she doesn't have new songs? Lindsey was probably baiting her with that ridiculous comment. Stevie has more songs in one journal than he has probably written ever. LOL. Maybe she is just hanging onto to them & doesn't want him to work on them. Regardless, she's got songs. She could even pull one out of her a** if she had to.

hm, sounds like more rationalizations

he wouldn't have to work on them, he brought in Mitchell Froom to work on them!!

he was trying to make his songs in a way she would like (that worries me frankly!), recorded them in a key she could sing, how much more red carpet can he roll out?

[CADreaming]

Originally Posted by MikeInNV

I think we're reading too much into Stevie's comments which, as Michele said, are basically just off-the-cuff responses to an interviewer who clearly wants certain answers. He asks her about the 40-year anniversary of BN, and she says something to the effect that "Yeah it would be great to do something." Then he asks if she would reform the whole band, and she says "That would be a possibility." Then he goes to LB and tells him "Stevie says that the BN album should be re-released and that you should go on tour with Waddy and the gang." To me, it's much more the interviewer's idea than Stevie's, but now he's got LB wondering where Stevie's head is at. The interviewer is kind of like a little kid, playing mom and dad off one another to put ideas in their head.

Yeah, I did think that too - especially with the Rumours thing! Since when has Lindsey ever been interested in giving that album so much attention? I'll tell you when - since never! What a weird train ride that was. I remember during the Unleashed press when they were originally going to put out this deluxe boxed set - Lindsey was bad-mouthing it left and right. He was like - why? what's the point? Been there, done that.

So, yeah - I guess the reporter was doing a little baiting himself.

Originally Posted by elle

hm, sounds like more rationalizations

he wouldn't have to work on them, he brought in Mitchell Froom to work on them!!

Mitchell Froom -what a name. LOL. I had to look the guy up. Eh. I don't even care anymore. I just want something BN and then they can go on being dramatic all they want. It's ridiculous. Seriously, they tire me. My emotional investment is up. I can't even believe they think this is a good way to do business, if that is all they care about.

he was trying to make his songs in a way she would like (that worries me frankly!), recorded them in a key she could sing, how much more red carpet can he roll out?

HAHAHAHAHA -- Oh, he'll keep rolling!

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by elle

he wouldn't have to work on them, he brought in Mitchell Froom to work on them!!

Yeah, a producer of Lindsey's choosing. For a potential album of Lindsey's choosing.

How many times, and in how many ways, does Stevie have to say she doesn't want to record a new Fleetwood Mac album? Or do they think they can wear her down like they did with this tour?

Personally, I hope she doesn't take the bait.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by elle

hm, sounds like more rationalizations

She may not want to do an FM album or work on songs with him, but it has nothing to do with her not having songs. She could write 4 tonight if she wanted to. I'm sure she's got loads of junk in her journals after her mother's passing, not to mention after visiting Lindsey's home and meditations on Kanye's relationship with Kim Kardashian. It would take her no time to write songs based on her diary poems. She wrote the new SYW songs over the holidays.

Lindsey was probably more correct in saying that she didn't want to give the songs she has to FM. She'd probably rather work on them with Dave.

Maybe Froom is not her thing.

As for Lindsey, I've known he's wanted a new album since the SYW tour ended. He's always said this. I have never blamed the lack of new music at his feet, but I DO blame him for comments like the Unleashed tour freed them or like what he recently said about people not particularly wanting new music. No, I don't think he believes these things. He was outvoted, so he's just following the company line, but he doesn't have to. He needn't say anything negative about having no new music, but he doesn't need to say anything insincere about it being so liberating to only have to play the new songs either. When he talks like that, I feel et tu? I don't want to hear it from him. Knowing that he doesn't really mean it is small solace. I'd rather he not even say it.

Michele

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

How many times, and in how many ways, does Stevie have to say she doesn't want to record a new Fleetwood Mac album? Or do they think they can wear her down like they did with this tour?

I hardly think they wore her down with this tour. Mick said what he said to get her to commit earlier and to try to get something going a year ago. That didn't work and she didn't tour in 2012. But I'm sure she would have been ready to tour in 2013 anyway. I don't see her having caved in to pressure of any kind. It's not like she is against FM tours.

Michele

[CADreaming]

Lindsey Buckingham reveals Fleetwood Mac new music

And that a Buckingham/Nicks reunion is in the works
By Mark C. Brown 3 hours ago
Fleetwood MacFans knew a Fleetwood Mac tour was imminent, but what they didn’t know was that new music was in the works. Two new songs, “Sad Angel” and “Miss Fantasy,” will come out before the tour kicks off in April. But longtime fans of Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks might be even more thrilled with this development: They’re seriously considering reviving their pre-Fleetwood Mac career as Buckingham/Nicks – and recently recorded a song that was originally intended for the follow-up that never came to their one self-titled album. Buckingham sat down to talk exclusively to MSN about the new (and old) recordings.



MSN: When we spoke last year about your solo album “Seeds We Sow” you said a Fleetwood Mac reunion would happen.


Lindsey Buckingham: “Did I say it was going to happen in 2012?”


Yes, but you said you wanted to do an album first. Stevie told me she wanted to do an album but people aren’t interested in them anymore, so you have just the two songs for now.



“Oh no, that’s not true. I don’t know what she’s talking about. She just didn’t come with any songs. She didn’t want to do an album. I said ‘Stevie, what do you think?’ and she said ‘No, I don’t want to do that.’ So I didn’t push it. I’ve got all this stuff sitting around. I’ll get John (McVie) and Mick (Fleetwood) over here from Hawaii and do a low-key, under-the-radar situation, producer-wise, just see what happens. We cut like seven, eight tracks with Mitchell Froom and the stuff turned out great. We did it all in the proper keys for Stevie’s range, and for her to drop in her parts. My hope she would hear some of this stuff and love it and get drawn in. She wasn’t really prepared to love it, so she didn’t. She’s starting to love it more now, now that she’s on a couple. She felt sort of put-upon and that’s fair enough I guess. She had her idea of not wanting to do it and here I was getting John and Mick over, doing this rah-rah thing. Come on guys!”


I have a feeling this interview is going to get the tour canceled before it begins...


“No, no, no, not at all. But I think probably she felt put-upon in the sense she didn’t have a lot of material sitting around to bring. Maybe there was a sense of pressure on her part. I was talking to Mick yesterday. At some point we’re going to be very glad we did this material. Something’s gonna happen with this. What that is remains to be seen. If we only use a couple of these for now, that’s fine. Stevie still needs to come with something. Who’s to say? I’m not pushing for an album. Down the line, maybe. I think it would be great. Stevie’s gotta be happy, she’s gotta be comfortable and that’s really the bottom line.”


How did you hook up with Mitchell Froom?


“I had never met Mitchell but spoke with him on the phone. I like the guy. I like some of his reference points that I was aware of. I also knew he was a very skillful string-arranger in case we wanted anything more outside the box like that. And to top it off he lives about five minutes from me. We did this whole thing in a very handcrafted way. I’d go into his house and gave him all my rough demos first, some of which were fleshed out, others just snippets of things hummed into my phone….we sort of agreed on what songs we’d do, worked on arrangements. We had the whole thing worked out before John and Mick showed up. Then it was pretty organic. It was interesting for him – the peculiarity of how we do things… for three weeks we came up with all that’s stuff. It’s all very pop. It hearkens back to the Fleetwood Mac classic feel. And John and Mick were just playing their asses off.”


With all your recent touring and solo albums and new songs are you in a particularly prolific phase?


“I’m not sure. It’s maybe the fruition, or something like that, of the choices I’ve been able to make and implement. You can take it way back if you wanna get really philosophical and go back to ‘Tusk.’ Since 2005, we got off the road from doing the ‘Say You Will’ tour. I was working on a certain level of frustration at having several attempts of solo projects being co-opted and turned into Fleetwood Mac projects. It happened several times. I asked for three years off in order to do two back-to-back albums, which I did, just trying to get it all out of my system … I did ‘Under the Skin’ and ‘Gift of Screws’ … I began to get a much stronger sense of myself by putting some chronological things together …confidence enters into it, I guess, but just focus and momentum.”


Let’s talk about the new music coming out. There’s another deluxe “Rumours” package coming out with more unreleased stuff. After the DVD-A and the previous deluxe release what’s left in the vaults for that?


“You’re asking the wrong guy (laughs). I probably shouldn’t be saying this, but it’s a marketing thing. I don’t have much invested in that. What my function is when these things come out – someone else finds this stuff, finds stuff that hasn’t come out before. Then it’s my job to make sure it’s OK, that it’s something I’m comfortable with… that the whole thing makes sense or even relates to the ‘Rumours’ album. Having said that I’m not a fan of repackaging things over and over again. I wouldn’t lose any sleep if this package didn’t come out, let’s leave it at that.”


It’s frustrating to fans to get that again while the surround-sound mix of “Tusk” is still sitting in the vaults.


“We did it! Getting Warner Brothers to put it out is another matter. And getting the band to want to put it out. That was my baby and there’s a certain subtext of it being the undermining factor of the brand. Maybe there’s a certain sublime level of suppression going on – not that anyone’s sitting around saying that, it’s just not on anybody’s A-list of things to do (laughs).”


Tell me about the new songs “Sad Angel” and “Miss Fantasy.”


“I was writing a lot of stuff. I was thinking about Stevie when I was putting these together. Many of the songs I came up with were directed at Stevie. They were a dialog to her. Both those are very much that. ‘Sad Angel’ – I think of her in all her traumatic splendor as having quite a bit of sadness that she still deals with. At the moment that it was being written I really was thinking about the fact that she and I were not agreeing on the idea of an album. The chorus is ‘Hello, sad angel, have you come to fight the war?’ It goes on to talk about ‘the crowd’s calling out for more.’ It’s sort of a cyclical look at our lives, the competitiveness of it yet the underlying unity of it. Each of our journeys has never been not a little about the other. ‘Miss Fantasy’ is more of the same thing. It’s a look back on….it’s talking about having a dream, recalling certain events that occurred years and years ago. The chorus is talking about ‘Miss Fantasy, it may be that you don’t remember me, but I remember you.’ That’s addressing all that’s happened over the course of time. You remember the person you were and the person I was back then? Is there any way to find any of that? Do we want to? Is it important to? Those are songs about Stevie and me.”

Buckingham/Nicks

Doing the song “Stephanie” on your solo tour from the out-of-print 1973 “Buckingham/Nicks” album raised fans’ hopes that it’ll come out on CD someday. You also made a comment on the BBC about working with Stevie again. I assume that meant this tour but it was interpreted by some as you saying you might want to re-form Buckingham/Nicks.


“That’s not a misinterpretation. I would love to go out and do Buckingham/Nicks. It’s sort of ironic because when Stevie came over here and started working we just had a great time, the best time we have had in years. She did bring in one song that was supposed to be her contribution to the Fleetwood Mac thing. After we were done with it she decided she wanted to put it on the ‘Buckingham/Nicks’ album (laughs). So that’s fine too. I don’t care. It’s an old song from pre-Fleetwood Mac. It was written sometime after ‘Buckingham/Nicks’ came out but before we joined Fleetwood Mac. We were working on a second possible Buckingham/Nicks album that never happened. So yes. The issue with all of that is once again a logistics issue. I have no problem with dropping a bonus track or one from her and one from me and putting out ‘Buckingham/Nicks’ finally on CD. …she said ‘We could do some dates between legs of the Fleetwood Mac tour.’ I’m thinking ‘No, I don’t think so. I don’t think it’s logistically possible.’ We’ve got a little less than 40 dates on the books, we’ll probably add a few more…we’ll do Europe and probably go down and do the summer in Australia and New Zealand. When the hell are we going to get together and rehearse a Buckingham/Nicks show? So in my mind if she’s really serious what would be good to do is wait to put the (old) album out, or put it out and then do a new Buckingham/Nicks album. The tour would have to wait till after that. Whether or not that will happen….she’s very heartfelt about what she’s saying, but it isn’t always clear. I don’t know what to say about that. But yes, to be very direct in response to your question if it were up to me… I would love to go out and do that again. That would be so cyclical and so karmically appropriate. If you see Stevie just tell her I said that.”

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[CADreaming]

^Now, I'm interested again. LOL!

So, the BN song couldn't be Without You, right? If it was a BN II song before they joined FM?

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by CADreaming

She wasn’t really prepared to love it, so she didn’t. She’s starting to love it more now, now that she’s on a couple. She felt sort of put-upon and that’s fair enough I guess. She had her idea of not wanting to do it and here I was getting John and Mick over, doing this rah-rah thing. Come on guys!”

Lindsey, I've told you: John and Mick aren't the road to rah-rah. You can make someone jump hurdles to do an FM song, but it's not with John and Mick.

Michele

[CADreaming]

Originally Posted by michelej1

She may not want to do an FM album or work on songs with him, but it has nothing to do with her not having songs. She could write 4 tonight if she wanted to. I'm sure she's got loads of junk in her journals after her mother's passing, not to mention after visiting Lindsey's home and meditations on Kanye's relationship with Kim Kardashian. It would take her no time to write songs based on her diary poems. She wrote the new SYW songs over the holidays.

Lindsey was probably more correct in saying that she didn't want to give the songs she has to FM. She'd probably rather work on them with Dave.

Maybe Froom is not her thing.

As for Lindsey, I've known he's wanted a new album since the SYW tour ended. He's always said this. I have never blamed the lack of new music at his feet, but I DO blame him for comments like the Unleashed tour freed them or like what he recently said about people not particularly wanting new music. No, I don't think he believes these things. He was outvoted, so he's just following the company line, but he doesn't have to. He needn't say anything negative about having no new music, but he doesn't need to say anything insincere about it being so liberating to only have to play the new songs either. When he talks like that, I feel et tu? I don't want to hear it from him. Knowing that he doesn't really mean it is small solace. I'd rather he not even say it.

Michele

Yes. All of this.

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by michelej1

I hardly think they wore her down with this tour. Mick said what he said to get her to commit earlier and to try to get something going a year ago. That didn't work and she didn't tour in 2012. But I'm sure she would have been ready to tour in 2013 anyway. I don't see her having caved in to pressure of any kind. It's not like she is against FM tours.

No, you're right, Michele. And I never did believe Mick when he whined that Fleetwood Mac was over & done with because Stevie didn't want to tour again. But he was certainly posturing for a reason. And I'm sure it didn't fall on deaf ears.

[michelej1]

The fact that Mr. Froom lives five minutes away from Lindsey's house and is very convenient logistically doesn't really enhance his appeal.

Michele

[CADreaming]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

No, you're right, Michele. And I never did believe Mick when he whined that Fleetwood Mac was over & done with because Stevie didn't want to tour again. But he was certainly posturing for a reason. And I'm sure it didn't fall on deaf ears.

Well, and she did say she dug her heels in: "If Lindsey gets 3 years then I get 3 years. Don't bother me!"

[CADreaming]

Originally Posted by michelej1

The fact that Mr. Froom lives five minutes away from Lindsey's house and is very convenient logistically doesn't really enhance his appeal.

Michele

LOL. Can you see this?

Lindsey: Dragging Froom in the studio door - "Ste-vie...look what I found... a producer!"

Stevie: