The Ledge

Go Back   The Ledge > Main Forums > Peter Green
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Members List Calendar


Make the Ads Go Away! Click here.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-19-2009, 12:18 AM
slipkid's Avatar
slipkid slipkid is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 545
Default Who played lead guitar for "The Apostle", and "Last Train to San Antone"?

If someone can confirm that Peter Green played guitar on both tracks, I will buy the albums. If veteran fans' think it's Snowy White, I only need the San Antone track because I can recognize Peter Green's voice. I know this has been discussed before, but with the lack of attention towards the Peter Green message board, I thought I would help to keep it alive!

Last edited by slipkid; 08-19-2009 at 12:20 AM..
Reply With Quote
.
  #2  
Old 08-19-2009, 01:34 AM
dino dino is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 638
Default

Confirmation...as in proof? We could always locate Peter Vernon-Kell who ran PVK records, or something.
Clearly Peter plays the main melody guitar on "The Apostle", but that was not one of the tracks we discussed earlier. It was "Seven Stars" and "In the skies" etc.
Snowy White was not involved in the session for the song "Last train to San Antone". Ronnie Johnson played rhythm guitar on that.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-19-2009, 02:27 AM
doodyhead's Avatar
doodyhead doodyhead is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Lake Worth FL,Pine Bush,NY
Posts: 598
Default i go with dino on this too

Quote:
Originally Posted by dino View Post
Confirmation...as in proof? We could always locate Peter Vernon-Kell who ran PVK records, or something.
Clearly Peter plays the main melody guitar on "The Apostle", but that was not one of the tracks we discussed earlier. It was "Seven Stars" and "In the skies" etc.
Snowy White was not involved in the session for the song "Last train to San Antone". Ronnie Johnson played rhythm guitar on that.
and alas you might have some digging to ask Mr PVK
What is known is that the tune is derived from an old song that Peter's grandmother gave him inspiration from. This would lead me to think he played both parts in the studio.
you will also find that the guitar arpeggio is buried in the later mix and single release of this song. On the album "In The Skies" it is incredibly simple. I would have to dig for the Album cover to look at the official listing of who played what. the CD from the PVK re-release doesn't say. Either way it is a beautiful somber song worth getting. If you get Apostle by itself you then have to decide which version you want. "In The Skies" has the simple sparse acoustic arrangement

vinnie c
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-19-2009, 02:47 PM
slipkid's Avatar
slipkid slipkid is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 545
Default

Thanks for the information. I've been leary of getting PG albums from this period because of what was written in the Celmins bio. However I heard "Last Train..." on Sirius Deep Tracks around July 4, and had to have it. They were doing a weeklong retrospective on FM using snippets of a recent interview with Mick Fleetwood. Mick didn't pull any punches declaring Green the best musician the band ever had.

If the acoustic Apostle is on "In the Skies", where can one find the version with the electric guitar? Do I have to buy the 2 CD "Man of the World" collection?

Last edited by slipkid; 08-19-2009 at 02:54 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-21-2009, 01:34 PM
ohwell ohwell is offline
Ledgie
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 32
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by slipkid View Post
If the acoustic Apostle is on "In the Skies", where can one find the version with the electric guitar? Do I have to buy the 2 CD "Man of the World" collection?
The original version of 'apostle' can be found on the remastered CD 'kolors' (included as a bonus track). As far as I know it's the only time it's been released on CD.

BTW, there's a electric guitar on both versions. And yeah, you should get it, cause it's effin great! One of Greens finest moments, IMO.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-22-2009, 04:25 AM
Mario Mario is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Acqui Terme (AL) Italy
Posts: 379
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ohwell View Post
The original version of 'apostle' can be found on the remastered CD 'kolors' (included as a bonus track). As far as I know it's the only time it's been released on CD.

BTW, there's a electric guitar on both versions. And yeah, you should get it, cause it's effin great! One of Greens finest moments, IMO.
I'm pretty sure it was available on the Anthology "Blue Guitar"........

Mario.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-22-2009, 04:44 AM
ohwell ohwell is offline
Ledgie
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 32
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mario View Post
I'm pretty sure it was available on the Anthology "Blue Guitar"........

Mario.
I thought that was the 'in the skies'-version.

ohwell
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-22-2009, 06:00 AM
Norton Norton is offline
Ledgie
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 89
Default Apostle recordings....

I have 5 cd's with Apostle on them:-

Blue Guitar. (Acoustic)
Pop and Rock Legends, Peter Green. (Electric with Acoustic accompaniment)
In the Skies. (Electric with Acoustic accompaniment)
Peter Green: The very best of. (Electric with Acoustic accompaniment)
Man of the World: The Anthology. (Electric with Acoustic accompaniment)

By the sound of them, all 4 Electric ones were taken from the same original... but the quality of sound on MOTW: The Anthology is significantly better in its reproduction than the other 3.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-22-2009, 09:47 AM
doodyhead's Avatar
doodyhead doodyhead is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Lake Worth FL,Pine Bush,NY
Posts: 598
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Norton View Post
I have 5 cd's with Apostle on them:-

Blue Guitar. (Acoustic)
Pop and Rock Legends, Peter Green. (Electric with Acoustic accompaniment)
In the Skies. (Electric with Acoustic accompaniment)
Peter Green: The very best of. (Electric with Acoustic accompaniment)
Man of the World: The Anthology. (Electric with Acoustic accompaniment)

By the sound of them, all 4 Electric ones were taken from the same original... but the quality of sound on MOTW: The Anthology is significantly better in its reproduction than the other 3.
On the re release of the PVK collection
the same recording is in both "Kolors" and the Peter Green Anthology" both are great additions to collection
as in all new CD releases, I just wish they would find a bigger more readable FONT even if it would mean an extra page or two.

doodyhead
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-24-2009, 05:52 PM
Wouter Vuijk's Avatar
Wouter Vuijk Wouter Vuijk is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 688
Default

Then there is also the single version with his former wife Jane playing violin.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 08-25-2009, 01:48 AM
dino dino is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 638
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wouter Vuijk View Post
Then there is also the single version with his former wife Jane playing violin.
Are you sure? Isn't the single version the one on "Blue Guitar" and the "Kolors" re-issue? And do we have any proof that the wife played on it?
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Mick Fleetwood Cambridge Soundworks Model Twelve w/ Satellite Speakers picture

Mick Fleetwood Cambridge Soundworks Model Twelve w/ Satellite Speakers

$249.00



Mick Fleetwood’s Zoo I’m Not Me LP RCA 1st USA Press + Inner EX picture

Mick Fleetwood’s Zoo I’m Not Me LP RCA 1st USA Press + Inner EX

$11.99



FLEETWOOD MAC-RUMOURS - VINILO NEW VINYL picture

FLEETWOOD MAC-RUMOURS - VINILO NEW VINYL

$28.41



Mick fleetwood Blues band NEW SEALED CD Blue Again picture

Mick fleetwood Blues band NEW SEALED CD Blue Again

$19.99



Mick Fleetwood - Celebrate The Music Of Peter Green And The Early Years of Fleet picture

Mick Fleetwood - Celebrate The Music Of Peter Green And The Early Years of Fleet

$23.62




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:07 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
© 1995-2003 Martin and Lisa Adelson, All Rights Reserved