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Old 05-05-2004, 03:54 PM
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I nominate Johnny Stew to be sent to the Middle East to mediate the Israeli/Palestine conflict.
We all know you're just hoping I'll get caught in the crossfire!
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ZIMA!!!??? They still make that stuff?
Now they have about 3 or 4 different flavors...I think. I stopped drinking the stuff in about 1994 or so. For no apparent reason, either.
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I'm not going to give the woman kudos for coming back for 10 days with a song she didn't write, another that was simply a jumble of ****, and another that sounded like it was recorded by a chipmunk with a throat cold
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If you ask me, all the remixes are pretty excruciating. But as I mentioned before, hearing Family Man on the radio was a bit of a shock for me. Tango is undeniably Lindsey's and Christine's masterpiece. Despite its 80s sheen, it is still a wonderful piece of work.
BLEEEEEECHH!! I think Tango is their worst album overall. "Isn't It Midnight" and "Tango in the Night" are good, but the rest is stanky 80's crapola.
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Old 05-05-2004, 06:29 PM
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BLEEEEEECHH!! I think Tango is their worst album overall. "Isn't It Midnight" and "Tango in the Night" are good, but the rest is stanky 80's crapola.
It wasn't "stanky '80's crapola" when it was released...it was "cutting edge, current" stuff.

Obviously, you didn't first hear it when it came out? From a "hindsight" point of view, yeah, it's "80's", but when "Big Love" first hit the airwaves, it was "da bomb"!!
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Old 05-05-2004, 06:35 PM
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If anyone listened to the demos to some of those songs, they'd know that Linds worked a miracle on them.

And then listen to the other stuff she had offered up to the band. It's rather heartbreaking.
Absolutely! "What Has Rock and Roll Ever Done For You" is SUCH an unbelievable piece of crap! "Juliet" on the other hand definitely should have been on TITN- totally.
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Old 05-05-2004, 07:10 PM
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It wasn't "stanky '80's crapola" when it was released...it was "cutting edge, current" stuff.

Obviously, you didn't first hear it when it came out? From a "hindsight" point of view, yeah, it's "80's", but when "Big Love" first hit the airwaves, it was "da bomb"!!
Um. Yeah, I did. I bought it on vinyl the day it was released. I was pretty disappointed with Lindsey's stuff, just like I was with Mirage. Neither album lived up to his Tusk stuff. Like I said, "Isn't It Midnight" and the title track rocked then and they still rock today. I really didn't like any of Stevie's stuff when I first heard it- which sucked, because I am primarily a Stevie fan. I thought Christine's stuff was too poppy and I thought Lindsey's songs were too simplistic, both structurally and lyrically. The production was crisp and clean, but the overall sheen was more 1985 than 1987. For me, the "1987 sound" was more akin to REM's Document and others like it. TITN was closer to something like Quarterflash.
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But, she made the effort to be there. These are two sep. things. She was stretched too thin. LB was pissed and produced her crap into bigger crap. Call it want you want. But, she made the effort and I say kudos to her for it.
Sweetie, Lindsey can only do so much! When a song sucks as hard as WISYA or WTTR...S, then you're going to have to be a miracle worker to make it palatable.
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As I said before, take out Welcome to the Room and When I See You Again, then throw in You and I Part I, and you have a perfect album.
Trade out "Family Man" for "Joan of Arc" or "Juliet."
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Trade out "Family Man" for "Joan of Arc" or "Juliet."
The Juliet outtake is PAINFUL to listen to, OMG! I thought I'd never recover!
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The Juliet outtake is PAINFUL to listen to, OMG! I thought I'd never recover!
Well, it's very rough, remember. But Juliet sounded much better to me as an uptempo song than as the slow song she released it as.
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But to me at least, Tango is the one that hasn't held up as well as the others. I often think it sounds kinda dated.
Have to agree. I do like it better than Mirage, though.
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Old 05-06-2004, 08:21 AM
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I wondered if you were going to say that...

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Old 05-06-2004, 08:23 AM
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BLEEEEEECHH!! I think Tango is their worst album overall. "Isn't It Midnight" and "Tango in the Night" are good, but the rest is stanky 80's crapola.
In the context of the times, it stood out. There was a lot of crap being released in the mid 80s.

Looking back, I don't particularly care for the glossy production, but I do recall how exciting it was to my ear at the time. Same for Lindsey's Go Insane.
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It wasn't "stanky '80's crapola" when it was released...it was "cutting edge, current" stuff.

Obviously, you didn't first hear it when it came out? From a "hindsight" point of view, yeah, it's "80's", but when "Big Love" first hit the airwaves, it was "da bomb"!!
Hmm... I should have read your response before I replied. These are my thoughts exactly.
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