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Aid after a hurricane, yes we did accept. It came in the form of water, ice and $$$ to help with damage to our farm. Did it help, yes it did. Is everything back to normal, no. I can look outside even after all this time and still see damage. Our concrete and steel silos broken beyond repair and way too expensive to rebuild. I always notice them during the sunset. A daily reminder of the storms. Are you really compairing natural disasters to the mortgage crisis? |
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As for majors in college, if your friend was good enough, he'd make a great living, even if he just toured with the shows as an extra But, I think all colleges should run their curriculums past you as the decider of what is appropriate |
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Interestingly, ajmccarrell likely thinks you spent your Fed. benefits on hookers, hooch, and designer duds as he lumped all people who got aid into one general category earlier. He implied it was the blacks only, but and in fairness, he was not specific. I, however, do not think that. I think the vast majority of the people who took the cards spent it wisely -- you seemingly fit into this category and I know many more. But, this notion apparently is foreign to him. As an aside, if I had lost my house, money, livelihood, etc. and was living on a cot in the Astrodome, I'd need a drink or two myself and fukc anyone who judged me for that If you are a drinking man, did you not at least once get ****tefaced after the storm? I sure as hell did. In the end and back to the topic at hand -- I agree with you that the mortgage companies and were greedy and they should suffer. But, if we allow all the banks to fail because people start making runs on banks (it already happened in Calif. ) -- how would that benefit us as a nation. True, the banks would be punished and there is some comfort in that ability to wag the finger and say "I told you so." But, is that comfort worth the effect of bank failures on the economy? To me that is cutting off our nose to spite our face To me, the more pragmatic and wildly cheaper business decision is to bail out the banks and pass laws trying to ensure this will never happen again. W could have passed these laws in his first term, but he did not. I submit he did not because he along with everyone else knew that the collapse of Enron, MCI, the computer industries ( .com stock anyone) at the end of the Clinton era, etc. left the economy crippled (note - I blame Clinton for this because the Dept. of Justice essentially turned a blind eye to it) . Though the US still had a huge surplus mostly thanks to Clinton and his "raised taxes," the only continuing game in town so to speak was the mortgage industry, which included the construction industry et al. The Bush Administration could not stifle that and it is costing us now. Interstingly, if we allowed the banks to fail and the markets to correct themselves, what do you think would happen? Would we enter into another Great Depression? Note - I am not blaming or judging you for taking the Katrina related aid. I think you were smart for taking it. Moreover, I wish you luck with the farm. I am just noting that many people including myself are quick to judge others because of perceived stereotypes when not all people fit in those stereotypes. As for your silos -- I know its a long shot, but is there any govt. aid for that? If not, is there anyway the local community can help you rebuild them. I say this because I know in many communities in NOLA and the area, neighborhood people got together and helped clear and redo each others' hosues. A silo seemingly is a far larger task though. Good luck with that! Last edited by strandinthewind; 07-30-2008 at 09:35 AM.. |
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You said, "Interestingly, ajmccarrell likely thinks you spent your Fed. benefits on hookers, hooch, and designer duds as he lumped all people who got aid into one general category earlier. He implied it was the blacks only, but and in fairness, he was not specific. I, however, do not think that. " What the hell is your problem? You are grossly mischaracterizing what I said you jerk. Knock it off! I never said it was blacks only either. You sir, are a liar!
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Note - if I am in error, I apologize. But, I do not think I am as the vast majority of the evacuee's were black and they are whom you specifically referenced. You laid the card, don't be scared to play it |
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Clearly, you were talking about black people and you referred to them as "human debris." Would you like to backtrack from that now? |
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In any event, you clearly were talking about black people with the human debris comment. That you recant now is unsurprising though as you have yet to win any argument in this or the other two threads. And, when called on your incorrect assertions, you attack the person calling you out. Last edited by strandinthewind; 07-30-2008 at 10:04 AM.. |
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I was pointing out bias in the media, not making a broad assumption about black people. Are you really that stupid?! Maybe so! There is no winning an argument with you because you don't want to be confused with facts. You just grasp at any excuse to hold on to your hatred of conservatives to the point of lying.
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So, the "human debris" comment was meant as an editorial on the bias in the media? |
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The two comments might have been part of the same overall subject of Katrina, but not about race specifically. My comment on human desbris was not related to my comments on the media. Is your reading comprehension really that bad?! I said that most of the people left behind during Katrina were human debris. I also said that the media covered Katrina more than similar disasters because the inhabitants of the damaged areas were largely black. A + B does not = D. Have you ever a formal logic course? I can tell it's been a while if you had.
There's an old joke that God is going to destroy the world, so the papers report, "God destroys world: women and minorities hardest hit." The joke is that the media fixates on minorities. I was making the same point here. There were floods in the midwest this summer far beyond the scope of those that hit Katrina and these also had the potential to disrupt our food supply. The media was still covering Katrina a year later and Oprah was still doing specials on it. How about the floods? The media stopped covering it about a week later and Oprah never addressed it. My point is that the media is racist. Why bother, you're just going to lie about it anyway. You are a testament to our rotten school system if you legitimately think that my media comments were related to my human debris comments. I can't imagine someone that lacking in basic reading skills. But then again, you do vote democratic! |
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The situation in Minnesota was not nearly as dramatic as the tens of thousands of, to use your words, "human debris" left in NOLA after Katrina due to the Feds takijng too long to send in the needed help to get them out. That is why NOLA got so much television coverage as oppsed to Minnesota, which though perhaps in a larger area geographically, was a comparatively far less severe disaster. I may be mistaken, but I do not think tens of thousands had to be evacuated from Minnesota. The horrible events were not really comparable in severity or cost (monetary and human lives and suffering) .
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