Destiny Rules documentary - Page 5

michelej1 · #61 12-28-2022, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by elle

i think you hit the nail on the head - why Stevie was so eager to get rid of Lindsey. he didn't treat her as diva she became. he treated her as someone he grew up with and knew forever.

think about the line in the doc when he says "Karen is telling ME?"
As someone said in this thread, Stevie wanted even her staff to be treated above other FM members.

remember how Stevie always touted how she knew Lindsey before he was this big rock star? the same for him. but she wanted him to treat her as a huge diva she became, not as someone he knew his whole adult life. other than Lindsey, only her parents seemed to have been able to treat her like that, and by the time 2018 rolled around, both of them were gone. and Lindsey was now in her way, daring to not worship her.

She basically came out and said it. She said she wanted him to revel in her fame or else she would leave so fast the palm trees would hit him in the head. But she’s always been restrained horror. It was just the first time the restraints were gone. She is unchanged. It’s the rest of the band that ruined everything by giving into her. If they had held their ground, she would’ve backed down because she likes the FM touring money as much as anybody else. It wasn’t really going to be my way or the highway. It was going to be my way until you call my bluff. How I wish they had.They simply could’ve refused to fire Lindsey.

I’m just very depressed about how this all ended. And it just feels out of place that Christine died now, like it wasn’t supposed to happen. I guess I thought there would be more.

michelej1 · #62 12-28-2022, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyRaccoon

When you think about it, even though Stevie has built this popular cultural image that's almost bigger than Fleetwood Mac, her Fleetwood Mac songs are still what she's mostly known for with the younger generation. Aside from her biggest hits like Edge of Seventeen, Stand Back, Stop Draggin' My Heart Around, but I would say even those songs are not as well known these days as Dreams, Rhiannon, or Landslide. And most of her solo albums in general are pretty much forgotten aside from the first two. Her career is kind of paradoxical in that way.

She has some amazing solo songs that never became big hits, but are far superior to those that received airplay like Talk To Me and I Can’t Wait. And they sounded wonderful live too. From OTR and HSML to Sorcerer.

But I have to say, her songs that gave me joy, with the nebulous lyrics that could be molded and shaped so they they seemed to relate directly to things in my personal life, just make me grimace now. Her personality has ruined her catalog for me.

HomerMcvie · #63 12-28-2022, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life

Perhaps she should have played her tic tac Rhiannon on the piano instead.
When she's walking through front door its a flashback to Homer walking into the Indy arena in 1987 top hat and all.
Good luck girls!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW4q2RG8zYU

Mike Pence was on my arm...

Macfan4life, no matter how many times you try to seduce me, I'M NOT MARRYING YOU. Get that through your head.

cbBen · #64 12-28-2022, 09:06 PM

What's HSML?

Macfan4life · #65 12-28-2022, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Mike Pence was on my arm...

Macfan4life, no matter how many times you try to seduce me, I'M NOT MARRYING YOU. Get that through your head.

Did Mike clutch his Bible when Mick played himself?

michelej1 · #66 12-29-2022, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by cbBen

What's HSML?

How Still My Love. I’m just saying she had lots of solo songs that fans loved and were hot live. They were as good as Stand Back and Leather and Lace.

HomerMcvie · #67 12-29-2022, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life

Did Mike clutch his Bible when Mick played himself?

He was clutching his dickey.

Macfan4life · #68 12-29-2022, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

He was clutching his dickey.

Then after the show you drove to a dark cornfield and showed him your sister honey while you played HAEWFY.

**jbrownsjr** · #69 12-29-2022, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by michelej1

She basically came out and said it. She said she wanted him to revel in her fame or else she would leave so fast the palm trees would hit him in the head. But she’s always been restrained horror. It was just the first time the restraints were gone. She is unchanged. It’s the rest of the band that ruined everything by giving into her. If they had held their ground, she would’ve backed down because she likes the FM touring money as much as anybody else. It wasn’t really going to be my way or the highway. It was going to be my way until you call my bluff. How I wish they had.They simply could’ve refused to fire Lindsey.

I’m just very depressed about how this all ended. And it just feels out of place that Christine died now, like it wasn’t supposed to happen. I guess I thought there would be more.

It makes you wonder how many other times she has done this.

cbBen · #70 12-29-2022, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by michelej1

She basically came out and said it. She said she wanted him to revel in her fame or else she would leave so fast the palm trees would hit him in the head. But she’s always been restrained horror. It was just the first time the restraints were gone. She is unchanged. It’s the rest of the band that ruined everything by giving into her. If they had held their ground, she would’ve backed down because she likes the FM touring money as much as anybody else. It wasn’t really going to be my way or the highway. It was going to be my way until you call my bluff. How I wish they had.They simply could’ve refused to fire Lindsey.

I’m just very depressed about how this all ended. And it just feels out of place that Christine died now, like it wasn’t supposed to happen. I guess I thought there would be more.

When and where did she come out and say she wanted him to revel in her fame? In the documentary? Elsewhere? If the former, at what point? Thanks.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0Mw0LudFm4

sue · #71 12-29-2022, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1

She basically came out and said it. She said she wanted him to revel in her fame or else she would leave so fast the palm trees would hit him in the head. But she’s always been restrained horror. It was just the first time the restraints were gone. She is unchanged. It’s the rest of the band that ruined everything by giving into her. If they had held their ground, she would’ve backed down because she likes the FM touring money as much as anybody else. It wasn’t really going to be my way or the highway. It was going to be my way until you call my bluff. How I wish they had.They simply could’ve refused to fire Lindsey.

I’m just very depressed about how this all ended. And it just feels out of place that Christine died now, like it wasn’t supposed to happen. I guess I thought there would be more.

Never thought of it from that angle and it’s right.
The others should have stood up to her, stood up for the moral rights of the band.
She would have backed down.
So, Chris, John and Mick sacked Lindsey.
Not Stevie !!

I think she has changed though..

**jbrownsjr** · #72 12-29-2022, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sue

Never thought of it from that angle and it’s right.
The others should have stood up to her, stood up for the moral rights of the band.
She would have backed down.
So, Chris, John and Mick sacked Lindsey.
Not Stevie !!

I think she has changed though..

I don't believe Christine had anything to do with it. I believe the decision was made already while she was away. And since mgmt knew this would be the last tour, it would be easy to get away with a swap of guitarist and singer.

They all could have balked and put their foot down, but imagine how difficult that would be when Mick has already agreed to it.
A power play was made and it forced their outstretched hands.

HomerMcvie · #73 12-29-2022, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

I don't believe Christine had anything to do with it. I believe the decision was made already while she was away. And since mgmt knew this would be the last tour, it would be easy to get away with a swap of guitarist and singer.

They all could have balked and put their foot down, but imagine how difficult that would be when Mick has already agreed to it.
A power play was made and it forced their outstretched hands.

And that's why Stevie is the worst thing that ever happened to Fleetwood mac! She's Satan!

**jbrownsjr** · #74 12-29-2022, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

And that's why Stevie is the worst thing that ever happened to Fleetwood mac! She's Satan!

I don't think she's the worst thing. I love a lot of her music and at one time had a ton of respect for her. I do agree the end was completely her power play using mgmt.

In the end, I've too realized that FMac is really the brits. Good or bad, better or worse, FM was the brits. And Christine was their musical and emotional heart.

HomerMcvie · #75 12-29-2022, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

I don't think she's the worst thing. I love a lot of her music and at one time had a ton of respect for her. I do agree the end was completely her power play using mgmt.

In the end, I've too realized that FMac is really the brits. Good or bad, better or worse, FM was the brits. And Christine was their musical and emotional heart.

Do you mean that you love her music from FOUR DECADES ago? Almost half a century ago?

Yeah, me too.