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Old 09-15-2018, 03:47 PM
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STEVIE NICKS AND PARIS JACKSON IN CONVERSATION FOR CR13
THE YOUNG ACTRESS-MODEL-MUSICIAN TALKS TO HER ALL-TIME IDOL

SEP 14, 2018

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The thought of speaking to her forever-idol Stevie Nicks makes Paris Jackson extremely nervous. So nervous, in fact, that she almost canít muster the courage to do it. For so long has the 20-year-old actress-model-musician admired the iconic Gold Dust woman that she is petrified of saying the wrong thing, of talking too much or too little. But Nicks puts Jackson at ease with the first syllable of her velvet voice, and the two speak about the perils of social media, the power of folk, and the necessity of finding one's place in the music.

Stevie Nicks: Tell me who you are and what you love.

Paris Jackson: Iím very open about myself and my personality on my social media. I donít post a lot pictures of myself, but I post a lot of pictures of the things that I love. There are a couple pictures of you on there, actually.

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SN: Iím going to tell you this because it will make you laugh: I donít have a computer, I just have a flip phone in case of a fire.

PJ: Good!

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SN: Iím like your sweet old grandmother who lives down the street. Iím not on Facebook. I mean there is a Facebook [account set up], but I have absolutely nothing to do with it. I have never even been on your social media.

PJ: Honestly, the less I use my social media, the happier I am, and Iíve been using it less and less, but when I do use it I make sure to keep it very real and honest and true to myself.

SN: Right, and thatís good.

PJ: People can be really cruel online. People can be really ****ed up so I try toó

SN: Itís out of my realm of understanding. And if youíve paid attention to my life, you know that I really believe in the art of mystery. I believe that being mysterious is really great.

PJ: Youíre kind of the queen of that.

SN: Itís always been my way, since I joined Fleetwood Mac in 1975. I really didnít want people to know that much about me, except the crazy things building up to joining Fleetwood Mac that I was willing to share, but as far as my life or my boyfriends or my love affairs or my friends or any of that, I preferred to be the...forbidden queen. We all built a persona, and that was mine, and I have pretty much followed it to now. Itís still the way I run my life. Except on the flipside, I am really willing to say, well, I was a waitress, I was a cleaning lady, I supported Lindsey [Buckingham] completely. I was the sole provider for almost five years for us before we joined Fleetwood Mac, when we had no money and absolutely nothing, except our four-track Ampex that his grandmother left us money for. But Iím probably the queen of selfies because I started with Polaroids in, oh God, probably 1978. I would take my Polaroid camera on the road and set up full-on sets by myself while everyone went to bed at the hotel, and I would take these Polaroids, which I dug out for my last record, 24 Karat Gold, and used a lot of the ones that I thought would never be used. But people go, ďGod, youíve been taking selfies way before us,Ē and I was.

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PJ: It was way before they had a name for it.

SN: I have an iPhone but it [doesnít have service]. I just use it as a camera and I have my little digital camera, but none of that will ever take the place of the Polaroid.

PJ: Yeah.

SN: By the way, your pictures in the magazine are stunning.

PJ: Really? You think so?

SN: I donít think so, I know so.

PJ: Aw! That makes me so happy. I was so excited when they showed me the reference photos and they were all pictures of you. Iíve looked up to you for a very, very long time, so when they said they were going to do my hair like yours, and that I was going to wear similar clothes to yours, I was just so excited.

SN: Well they look fantastic. For me, there is nothing more fun than a photo session. We used to do photo sessions and it would go on for like three days and weíd have the best time. Go to Western Costume, rent a ton of costumes, and go for three solid days. So when I look at your photo session, Iím thinking, Wow, I hope she had as much fun doing this as I used to.

PJ: I had a blast, I had such a good time.

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SN: What are you doing right now?

PJ: Right now I am working on a film about the rock and roll scene on the Sunset Strip. It takes place in 1996.

SN: There was a lot going on in L.A. in 1996.

PJ: Apart from work and the modeling, I am in a band now and we are working on our record. We thought we had enough material for an EP or an LP, but it turns out we have enough material for an album, so I think we are going to get that done by fall.

SN: What kind of music?

PJ: Probably like indie folk, a little bit of Skynyrd rock, and then we might do a cover of one of your songs, if thatís cool?

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SN: Oh, you have to. I think that everybody starts out with folk music. Lindsey and I certainly did. Then you evolve out of folk and into wherever it takes you. When you listen to Bob Dylan and listen to his words and amazing lyrics and his stories like ďTangled Up in Blue,Ē which after listening to it 5,000 times over the last 40 years, I realized that itís actually about a murder. I finally figured that out and thought, Wow, all of the times I listened to this song, I didnít get that. So, folk music is really where the storytelling starts, because nobody is worried about having a big band. All you have to do is play simple guitar or have someone else play simple guitar for you. Thatís all you need to get into folk music. And folk really helps you decide if you want to be more of a performance-singer or a full-on songwriter-singerówhich way you want to go. It did that for Lindsey and me. We slowly worked out of that and into more of the duo we became and the duo to the band and then we were a duo within a band and then by the time we moved to Los Angeles joining Fleetwood Mac, we became an instant trio. But our initial thing really came from folk music.

PJ: I really love it. Music makes me so happy. Itís always been an outlet to express myself and get out all the things I need to get out. And then I met this guy named Gabriel, who is now my boyfriend. But before he became my boyfriend, we had this crazy connection. Iíve never made music with another person the way Iíve made it with him, Iíve never been able to sing the way I do with him, and he feels the same way. Our creations just flow and theyíre so organic. It doesnít feel like itís human. It feels so beyond the English language to describe. Iíve never given myself the space to make music but when I met Gabriel I didnít really have a choice. I had to face the fact that I was born to be a musician and music is the only thing that makes me feel the way that it does. When we are creating, Iíll set my phone and we will just start recording and before I know it weíve got 30 to 45 minutes of constant music on there in one take and we are creating and free-styling and then we will go back and listen to it again and pick and choose what can be a song. Itís only been two or three months since we started creating and we have more than enough material for two albums. Itís crazy.

SN: Thatís how it happens, honey. Itís a magical thing that just comes and hits you. I donít think that you choose it, I think it chooses you.

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PJ: Itís so magical.

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SN: When you meet somebody who you are really in tune with, that gives you a lot of strength to do what you want to do, because sometimes itís scary to be an artist on your own. I never wanted to be an artist by myself, I wanted to be in a band in which I was protected.

PJ: Same here.

SN: Until I had been in Fleetwood Mac for five years, and had been singing with Lindsey for five years before that, it never occurred to me to be a solo artist. I just wrote so many songs. So, in 1981, when I decided to make a solo album, I told Fleetwood Mac straight out, ďListen, Iím not trying to break up this band, all I want to do is have a place to put these 40 songs Iíve written since 1975.Ē I felt stupid writing the next song because, why bother? They were a lot nicer about it than I thought they would be. They said, ďWell then go make a solo record,Ē and I did, but I never wanted that as my full-on thing. I appreciated the fact that being in a band took the pressure off. People coming to you, asking, ďWhat do you want to do? Where do you want to go? Do you want to do a tour? Do you want to do magazine interviews? How do you want the stage to look?Ē And youíre thinking, Well, canít you ask the rest of the band that? Except when youíre solo, itís just you. But youíve found somebody to share this with you, which makes it all the more fun.

PJ: Yes, all the more special.

SN: And also so much easier because itís not all on your shoulders.

PJ: Iím excited about it. I just got a text from him now. Itís funny that we were talking about him.

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SN: Well, this will be a great adventure for you. You can do your music and you can model. The world is in the palms of your little hands. You can be everything or you canbe exactly who you want to be. I look back over my life and I think, Wow what an adventure this has been. About 15 years ago, I decided in my own heart that Iím not going to be looking for a relationship, because Iím better off letting my music be my muse and being free enough to follow it where I want to follow it whenever I want to follow it. I was like 55 when I made this decision; I decided I didnít want to be tied down. I wanted to be totally free. Thatís the turnaround from the first 40 years of my life in music to now, wanting to be free and to be able to experience anything I want to without having to explain it to somebody else whoís asking, ďWhen are you coming home?Ē Well, I donít know, maybe six months? You donít have anyone to get mad at you. If Mr. Right comes walking out of the brick wall then great, if it doesnít happen Iím okay with that.
PJ: I agree. Iím just so excited to be talking to you.

SN: Well, Iím glad. When I write my songs, I hope that they reach out and touch people because thatís the only reason I write them. My songs always start as poetry. So, when I have a poem that Iíve written and I love, the idea is I can go to the piano and play. Thatís my favorite kind of evening, in a really beautiful studio or a beautiful home with candles and a grand piano and recording equipment. Thatís my idea of a perfect night, and itís always just as good as it was 40 years ago. Thatís the one thing that never changesóthe excitement of what you do creatively never changes.

PJ: Thank you for that.

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SN: So where are you off to? What are you doing tonight?

PJ: I promised my friend Jay I would go to his show; heís playing at the Forum. Heís a good friend. I have this special gift that I made for him, and Iím excited to give it to him because I missed his birthday. Iíll have to go get my hair and makeup done.

SN: Well, the last thing Iíll say is that your dad is looking down on you and heís very proud of you and he loves you and heís right on your shoulder.

PJ: Thank you, I feel him every day.

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SN: Yes, he is there. I lost my mom about five years ago and she talks to me, like about the stupidest things, like donít drink that, it has a lot of acid in it. [Laughs] Itís crazy, you know?

PJ: Just the littlest things.

SN: If I ever thought there wasnít another side, [I now know] there is. There absolutely is. Always know that.

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The 2nd picture of Paris reminds me of photos from the 'Mirage' songbook (by George Hurrell):

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I hate it when Stevie says she supported Lindsey financially 100% during their early years. She forgets Lindsey had a guitar and that is what landed them a record deal and also eventually landed them in Fleetwood Mac. Lindsey's guitar playing earned them money and eventually millions of dollars. I get it. She was a supportive girlfriend cleaning and being a waitress when Lindsey was home practicing guitar and making music.
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I hate it when Stevie says she supported Lindsey financially 100% during their early years. She forgets Lindsey had a guitar and that is what landed them a record deal and also eventually landed them in Fleetwood Mac. Lindsey's guitar playing earned them money and eventually millions of dollars. I get it. She was a supportive girlfriend cleaning and being a waitress when Lindsey was home practicing guitar and making music.

was this interview before or after she fired him? Mentionitis anyone?
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This article was:

Stevie: me me me me me me I I I I I , Lindsey and me, me and Lindsey, Lindsey, me me me me me.

I used to love her so much, **boom** <ó-that love blowing up
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This article was:

Stevie: me me me me me me I I I I I , Lindsey and me, me and Lindsey, Lindsey, me me me me me.

I used to love her so much, **boom** <ó-that love blowing up
Itís funny that Stevie is the one interviewing Paris but it basically reads as the other way around.
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Itís funny that Stevie is the one interviewing Paris but it basically reads as the other way around.
Very very true
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Hilarious that she says she keeps writing songs. OK, then where the **** are they??
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Hilarious that she says she keeps writing songs. OK, then where the **** are they??
Fifteen years ago she decided she wanted to ďlet music be her muse and follow it whereverĒ but how many albums has she released in those fifteen years...
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Stevie is all about herself.
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Thank you for sharing. Loved the photos!

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Stevie made the interview all about her. She is SO insufferable now. OMFG
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I also thought it was rather rude (but indicative of our times) that Paris was checking her text messages while getting the chance to sit with one of her "idols" . You can't leave your phone off for half an hour or so?

And then she sort of blows off talking anymore by saying she's promised her friend to go see his show and how excited she is to give him his gift, but she's gotta go now and get her hair/makeup done. No class, no grace, no manners. EVERYONE is all about themselves. As disgusted as I am with Stevie, you gotta admit she's earned her place as a star over decades.. Paris is only famous because she's the child of someone famous. Actress/model/musician? Really? Has she earned those titles? Or is she just dabbling and taking credit for them. And then she acts like she's too busy to spend more time talking. Please.

There's a whole obsession with the children of famous people and letting them jump to the front of the queue with no credentials whatsoever. President's kids getting hosting gigs on major national tv shows, they're all models now suddenly-- headlining major designer shows without ever working their way up. Even if your mother is Cindy Crawford or Christie Brinkley, they earned their spots, not you.

I thought she was horribly rude to Stevie. And Stevie is on the top of my poop list right now.
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Fifteen years ago she decided she wanted to ďlet music be her muse and follow it whereverĒ but how many albums has she released in those fifteen years...
She also forgets that he was working for no pay arranging her songs.

He also worked gigs for money-- for one he went on the road playing bass for the Everly Brothers (while she sat in Colorado and wrote Landslide)

Yeah, she needs to stop talking about how she loves writing and making music. Ironic that she said she only went out to do solo work because she had so many songs sitting unused and wanted to get them out. She apparently doesn't want her songs getting out nowadays-- coz she claims she won't make money off them. Is that why she writes then?

She wanted to be in a band and "protected" . She didn't like people coming to her and asking her to focus and pay attention and make decisions about the stage, or the equipment or whatever. "Can't you ask someone else in the band?" Diva much? LINDSEY made an awful lot of those decisions and she let him do that while she got to goof off taking pics of herself all night, staring at her own face in the mirror and on film. And then she has the nerve to bitch.
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She apparently doesn't want her songs getting out nowadays-- coz she claims she won't make money off them. Is that why she writes then?
ďWhen I write my songs, I hope that they reach out and touch people because thatís the only reason I write them.Ē

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