The Ledge

Go Back   The Ledge > Main Forums > Rumours
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read


Make the Ads Go Away! Click here.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #31  
Old 10-09-2016, 10:36 PM
Fleetwood Jack Fleetwood Jack is offline
Ledgie
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 90
Default

JBrownSJR, I absolutely love that reference!
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 10-10-2016, 04:26 AM
AncientQueen AncientQueen is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Germany
Posts: 583
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HomerMcvie View Post
Christine MF McVie. Period.
This!
My favorite is the Bob Welch era. Some of the best musicians, songwriters and entertainers came to together and created some of the greatest music ever. The "Bermuda Triangle" Bootleg is testament of their abilities. Bob Welch is so criminally underrated, it's just sad.
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 10-10-2016, 04:33 AM
AncientQueen AncientQueen is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Germany
Posts: 583
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by shackin'up View Post
I'm sorry but I can't see that. The tours between 87 and 96 were a lot more mediocre and flat than the ones between 2003 and 2013. And sorry, but the albums without Lindsey were extremely poor on original ideas. Say You Will, even if you hate it, was a lot more adventurous and surprising. What is soul? Little Lies or Say Goobye? Come on.

And, to be honest, the quality of Christine's songs are really upgraded in co-production with Lindsey.
NOPE! By no means Say You Will is a better album than Behind The Mask. SYW is sound proof that Lindsey can't write a hook if his life depends on it and his outdated production antis ruined whatever Stevie brought to the table. And the whole thing sounds like a 80s Lindsey album, which imho is never a good thing.

Upgraded? Rather upgrated! Hear the demo for "Everywhere" as reference for Chistines ability to write a pop gem versus Lindseys messing around with it until it is so overproduced that your teeths hurt from all the sugarcoating.
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 10-10-2016, 03:12 PM
elle's Avatar
elle elle is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: DC
Posts: 12,150
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AncientQueen View Post
NOPE! By no means Say You Will is a better album than Behind The Mask. SYW is sound proof that Lindsey can't write a hook if his life depends on it
Second Hand News
Go Your Own Way
You Do or You Don't
In Our Own Time
Illumination
That's the Way That Love Goes
Rock Away Blind
Turn It On
Down on Rodeo
Wait for You
The Right Place to Fade


just some examples of Lindsey's clear inability to write a hook
__________________

"kind of weird: a tribute to the dearly departed from a band that can treat its living like trash"
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 10-10-2016, 03:16 PM
sorcerer999's Avatar
sorcerer999 sorcerer999 is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 2,077
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by elle View Post
Second Hand News
Go Your Own Way
You Do or You Don't
In Our Own Time
Illumination
That's the Way That Love Goes
Rock Away Blind
Turn It On
Down on Rodeo
Wait for You
The Right Place to Fade


just some examples of Lindsey's clear inability to write a hook
^^^ THIS! And lest we forget "Holiday Road" - a song that is basically 100% "hooks" within both the verses and chorus!
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 10-10-2016, 03:24 PM
FuzzyPlum FuzzyPlum is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 3,386
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by elle View Post
Second Hand News
Go Your Own Way
You Do or You Don't
In Our Own Time
Illumination
That's the Way That Love Goes
Rock Away Blind
Turn It On
Down on Rodeo
Wait for You
The Right Place to Fade


just some examples of Lindsey's clear inability to write a hook
Look no further than FM's most recent release...when Lindsey wants to be Fleetwood Maccy he can be hooky. Sad Angel is really hooky. Infectiously so. I think he just gets a bit weird in his own personal music tastes from time to time and loses focus.

PS
'Hooks' doesn't always necessarily mean good by the way.
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 10-10-2016, 04:41 PM
AncientQueen AncientQueen is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Germany
Posts: 583
Default

Maybe he managed a good song with "Second Hand News", "Go your own way" is a great song, but that has nothing to do with the melody or the refrain. The other songs on the list are - well- they prove my point.
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 10-10-2016, 05:22 PM
elle's Avatar
elle elle is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: DC
Posts: 12,150
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sorcerer999 View Post
^^^ THIS! And lest we forget "Holiday Road" - a song that is basically 100% "hooks" within both the verses and chorus!
ha, yeah.

Quote:
Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum View Post
Look no further than FM's most recent release...when Lindsey wants to be Fleetwood Maccy he can be hooky. Sad Angel is really hooky. Infectiously so. I think he just gets a bit weird in his own personal music tastes from time to time and loses focus.

PS
'Hooks' doesn't always necessarily mean good by the way.
yup. just a most recent example.

Quote:
Originally Posted by AncientQueen View Post
Maybe he managed a good song with "Second Hand News", "Go your own way" is a great song, but that has nothing to do with the melody or the refrain. The other songs on the list are - well- they prove my point.
are you familiar with these other songs on the list? your post makes me wonder how you define a hook?

A hook is a musical idea, often a short riff, passage, or phrase, that is used in popular music to make a song appealing and to "catch the ear of the listener". The term generally applies to popular music, especially rock, R&B, hip hop, dance, and pop. In these genres, the hook is often found in, or consists of, the chorus. A hook can be either melodic or rhythmic, and often incorporates the main motif for a piece of music.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hook_(music)
__________________

"kind of weird: a tribute to the dearly departed from a band that can treat its living like trash"
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 10-10-2016, 07:12 PM
AlexD AlexD is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 255
Default

Ancient Queen should be kicked off of The Ledge (No pun intended) for her comments. She is wrong and should be put in jail. If I ran The Ledge, she would be in jail.
Reply With Quote
Old 10-10-2016, 08:33 PM
Nathan
This message has been deleted by Nathan.
  #40  
Old 10-10-2016, 08:38 PM
~*BellaDonna*~'s Avatar
~*BellaDonna*~ ~*BellaDonna*~ is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Portland, Oregon
Posts: 919
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan View Post
YES.
Ancient Queen, run for your life! They've grabbed some pitchforks and lit up torches.
__________________
Worrying about today only takes away tomorrow's peace.
Reply With Quote
  #41  
Old 10-10-2016, 08:45 PM
elle's Avatar
elle elle is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: DC
Posts: 12,150
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexD View Post
should be kicked off of The Ledge (No pun intended) for her comments. She is wrong and should be put in jail. If I ran The Ledge, she would be in jail.
well yeah we strive to be a democracy and not dictatorship! well maybe not here.
__________________

"kind of weird: a tribute to the dearly departed from a band that can treat its living like trash"
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 10-10-2016, 09:10 PM
wondergirl9847's Avatar
wondergirl9847 wondergirl9847 is offline
Addicted Ledgie
Supporting Ledgie
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: The Ledge
Posts: 9,282
Heart Fave eras

Well, Lindsey is my main reason for even being here, so any era he's part of is my fave.

But specifically, 1979-1982 are MAGICAL years for FM to me. They were at their zenith live.

I <3 Danny Kirwan MAJOR so I love Then Play On, Bare Trees and Future Games. Just want to say a HUGE thank you to wetcamelfood (RIP, John ) for helping me get into Danny's solo works as well. Danny's such a damaged soul and I wish he could have gotten help when he needed it most.
__________________
**Christy**
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 10-11-2016, 05:08 AM
shackin'up's Avatar
shackin'up shackin'up is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: bemmel/lowlands
Posts: 6,912
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AncientQueen View Post
"Go your own way" is a great song, but that has nothing to do with the melody or the refrain.
The only thing that proves a point in your post is this quote, with this, you prove to me that you don't know what a hook is. ( nor a melody or refrain?)
__________________
..........................................................................................





Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 10-11-2016, 07:43 AM
AncientQueen AncientQueen is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Germany
Posts: 583
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by shackin'up View Post
The only thing that proves a point in your post is this quote, with this, you prove to me that you don't know what a hook is. ( nor a melody or refrain?)
Oh please. Not even the critics could find a hook in this one, even Lindsey himself referred to that more than once. It's powerful, virtuos and energetic, but it does not have a great hook.
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 10-11-2016, 07:58 AM
AncientQueen AncientQueen is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Germany
Posts: 583
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexD View Post
Ancient Queen should be kicked off of The Ledge (No pun intended) for her comments. She is wrong and should be put in jail. If I ran The Ledge, she would be in jail.
Yeah, if everyone who has an opinion is kicked off The Ledge, it would be a lonely place. And - be careful, Alex, I'm fast, strong and mean .

I don't have anything against Lindsey, it's just that the idiotic "he made the "girls" songs better" is both mysogynist and plain wrong since 1979.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Christine Mcvie (reissue) by Christine McVie (CD, 1997) 1984 Solo Album picture

Christine Mcvie (reissue) by Christine McVie (CD, 1997) 1984 Solo Album

$6.98



Christine McVie - Christine Mcvie [New CD] picture

Christine McVie - Christine Mcvie [New CD]

$16.44



Lindsey Buckingham Christine McV... - Lindsey Buckingham Christine McVie CD XLVG picture

Lindsey Buckingham Christine McV... - Lindsey Buckingham Christine McVie CD XLVG

$7.94



Christine McVie - Christine Mcvie (reissue) [New CD] Reissue picture

Christine McVie - Christine Mcvie (reissue) [New CD] Reissue

$15.27



Christine McVie Self Titled CD of FLEETWOOD MAC picture

Christine McVie Self Titled CD of FLEETWOOD MAC

$4.99




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:35 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
© 1995-2003 Martin and Lisa Adelson, All Rights Reserved