Christine & Bekka

michelej1 · #1 05-05-2009, 01:42 PM

There's a picture on the new FM website that looks to be a rehearsal with Bekka in shorts and Christine at the piano. I've never seen this before. Maybe it's always been floating around though . . . Michele

David · #2 05-05-2009, 02:23 PM

How cool! I never saw that! It's Bekka! And Dave Mason there too! Why would they be rehearsing for a tour when Chris had no intention of being part of the tour? It sure doesn't look like a shot done just for album art.

I think it's about time for Steve MacDougall to tell us what he REALLY knows about the feud between Chris & Dave, & to what extent that did -- or did not -- prevent those two from working together.

**jbrownsjr** · #3 05-05-2009, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by David

How cool! I never saw that! It's Bekka! And Dave Mason there too! Why would they be rehearsing for a tour when Chris had no intention of being part of the tour? It sure doesn't look like a shot done just for album art.

I think it's about time for Steve MacDougall to tell us what he REALLY knows about the feud between Chris & Dave, & to what extent that did -- or did not -- prevent those two from working together.

Steve??? we're waiting...

Fannymac · #4 05-05-2009, 03:18 PM

From what I know, the "feud" was actually between Dave and Steve Winwood....something going back to their Traffic days (and still alive today, from what I understand!).
Chris has always adored Steve, and so she took his side.....she was adament that she DID NOT want Dave in the band, but I guess he was was kind of down on his luck at the time and living in Mick's guest house....and just kind of weaseled (for lack of a better word!) his way into the band.
That's why he's not on any of Christine's songs on TIME.....she wouldn't record with him (she used an outside guitarist, as well recording her other parts on her own, which were latter mixed in).
I'm VERY surprised to see a shot of these two on the same stage.....Chris HAD stopped/cut back on the drinking by this time, right?!?!? (I would have thought that's the only way she would have gotten on stage with Dave....if she was totally looped! Then again, that when that poison tongue could have come out!!!

macfan 57 · #5 05-05-2009, 03:35 PM

Wow! I've never seen that picture before. It looks like it was taken at the same time as that picture with Chris & Bekka goofing around with beards. The background is the same in both pictures. It looks strange seeing Chris & Dave Mason together.

Thanks for posting, Michele.

michelej1 · #6 05-05-2009, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by macfan 57

Wow! I've never seen that picture before. It looks like it was taken at the same time as that picture with Chris & Bekka goofing around with beards. The background is the same in both pictures.

Oh yes, you're right. They're wearing the same clothes. And the beard picture is on www.fleetwoodmac.com too.

Michele

**jbrownsjr** · #7 05-05-2009, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Fannymac

From what I know, the "feud" was actually between Dave and Steve Winwood....something going back to their Traffic days (and still alive today, from what I understand!).
Chris has always adored Steve, and so she took his side.....she was adament that she DID NOT want Dave in the band, but I guess he was was kind of down on his luck at the time and living in Mick's guest house....and just kind of weaseled (for lack of a better word!) his way into the band.
That's why he's not on any of Christine's songs on TIME.....she wouldn't record with him (she used an outside guitarist, as well recording her other parts on her own, which were latter mixed in).
I'm VERY surprised to see a shot of these two on the same stage.....Chris HAD stopped/cut back on the drinking by this time, right?!?!? (I would have thought that's the only way she would have gotten on stage with Dave....if she was totally looped! Then again, that when that poison tongue could have come out!!!

I can confirm the Winwood Mason tiff.... even in 2004 they traded jabs on each other's websights.... Mason wanted to play guitar on the RRHOF Traffic tunes...

becca · #8 05-09-2009, 01:31 PM

I remember being startled to find out Time existed, probably almost two years after it's release, so I can believe there was no label promotion of it, it just silently started turning up in some overstock catalogs and lists. I like early Dave Mason a lot and am sorry to read about him being abrasive or whatnot, I will still try to enjoy the music. It sounds like he and Mick should've done some kind of project on their own without Christine or the Mac title to it, that may even have been more commercial like those Plant/Page releases that did quite well without a Led Zeppelin name.

David · #9 05-10-2009, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by becca

I remember being startled to find out Time existed, probably almost two years after it's release, so I can believe there was no label promotion of it, it just silently started turning up in some overstock catalogs and lists.

I can't remember how I spotted it. I guess I saw it in the Fleetwood Mac bin at the record store in 1995. There was no mention of an album at the band's concert in 1994 I attended, & I wasn't really a keen fan scoping out the magazines & newspapers at that point anyway. My senses had been dulled by the poor performances on the tail end of the 1990 tour, the 1991 solo tour, & even the 1993 TV appearance. It wasn't until I went to the Arco Arena show on the STREET ANGEL tour that I felt rejuvenated enough to seek out other fans again to see what they were up to. Mick also did some interesting things around that time, like drum for the Big Town Playboys, a jump-jazz outfit from Britain. They even appeared with Mick on the Tonight Show.

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I like early Dave Mason a lot and am sorry to read about him being abrasive or whatnot, I will still try to enjoy the music. It sounds like he and Mick should've done some kind of project on their own without Christine or the Mac title to it, that may even have been more commercial like those Plant/Page releases that did quite well without a Led Zeppelin name.

I've never seen anyone more unconnected to & uninterested in what was happening onstage -- not even Stevie on the 1990 tour -- than Dave Mason in the gigs he did with Fleetwood Mac that I caught in '94 & '95. When the band would launch itself into a Mac classic, like "The Chain" or "Go Your Own Way," the look of disgusted boredom on Mason's face was palpable. He was a total turnoff. Billy Burnette & Bekka Bramlett were game, & tried their best to reinject energy, but the whole effect on me was of seeing an FM cover band in which certain members were only waiting for the check from the house.

nicepace · #10 05-10-2009, 11:37 AM

I didn't see the 'Time' tour, but I did see Dave Mason in concert once. It was in the late '70s and he was on a double bill with Bob Welch. My purpose in going to the concert was to see Bob, who was the opener but played a full set and was excellent (and sharply dressed!). He was promoting 'French Kiss' as a I recall. I particularly remember his version of "Bermuda Triangle" in that concert. It's the only time I've seen Bob perform.

I did stay for the Dave Mason set and I remember thinking he was okay but nothing much compared to Bob.

So ironically I wound up seeing a past and future Fleetwood Mac member on the same night.

fleetwoodtrick · #11 05-10-2009, 11:51 AM

Yay, I like that pic! Anyways, I posted the audio from Another Link in the Chain a little while ago, so here are some .mp3 files:

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showth...ght=link+chain

I believe there is a DVD too...?

michelej1 · #12 05-10-2009, 01:59 PM

I saw one Time show and one Shake The Cage show. I've seen at least one (and usually many more) of ever other FM, Stevie and Lindsey show, but I did not see one of Christine's. That was a horrendous call on my part. That same year, I saw the Jacksons' Victory tour 11 times. That is something I would definitely do differently. I was in Michigan and Christine didn't come there. But she did come to Chicago and if I had it to do over again, I'd go see her there.

It's not that I didn't thorougly love Christine and completely support the album and call into radio stations to request Got A Hold On Me, because I did. Oh, well.

I got the Time album when it was released, but I also remember ordering a second one from one of those clubs. You know, like Columbia House record club? You send a penny and you get 12 cds and then you have to buy more over the next year? Well, I remember doing that and one of my selections was Time.

Michele