Sarah Palin (Alaska Gov) McCain's VP

[estranged4life]

All politics aside, Palin can come be my "VP" anytime

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

self loathing Log Cabin Republicans

You're actually going to say that.. I mean, really?

[ajmccarrell]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

Is that the same aunt that knew about Hillary killing Vince Foster? I smell a conspiracy here!

Actually, no. That aunt died of MS. The aunt that knows about Vince Foster is Assistant U.S. Attorney Samantha Spangler. You might Google her, she would actually be in a position to know.

[estranged4life]

Originally Posted by ajmccarrell

You might Google her, she would actually be in a position to know.

I would like to "google" Palin, and I am sure she would indeed 'know' the position...

[ajmccarrell]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

And a cancer survivor as well..Van Palin has only has 2 years experience as Governer and was a small town Mayor prior to that so I guess the Republicans can stop braying about Barack's lack of experience with her a 72 year old + cancer survivor's heartbeat away from the Presidency.

Not really, because she isn't running for president, she's basically running for the presidential internship position. You CAN have on the job training for that, whereas it's McCain vs. Obama. If Palin were the nominee for president, you'd have a point. Personally, the democratic ticket looks backwards to me. Whatever you think of Biden, he HAS the experience. Why he's playing second fiddle to a guy whose only national experience consists of 144 days in the Senate is beyond me.

Also, a major difference between Palin and Obama is that she has as much Executive experience as Obama has Legislative experience. Obama has never run anything for ANY length of time. As a governor, you run a state. As a senator, you run your own office and that's it. The two kinds of experience are worlds apart.

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

You're actually going to say that.. I mean, really?

Well, you have to admit that it can be a baffling concept, since the Republican Party actively seeks to block both gay marriage and civil unions, they work to have sexual orientation removed from hate crime legislation, and they seek to block us from being able to adopt.

[Musicman408]

I think this is McCain's attempt at proving that he can be a candidate of change....I don't know anything about this lady, but I think he chose her more for the fact that she is a woman.

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

You're actually going to say that.. I mean, really?

yes really..the truth will set you free

[gldstwmn]

If it walks and talks like a whackadoodle...

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

Well, you have to admit that it can be a baffling concept, since the Republican Party actively seeks to block both gay marriage and civil unions, they work to have sexual orientation removed from hate crime legislation, and they seek to block us from being able to adopt.

I really don't feel like getting involved in this same old argument.. but I will try to defend the position of gay republicans, yet again (and btw.. I am NOT a Log Cabin Republican). Actually, I'll let others voice the defense for once. These quotes come from two very liberal-minded blogs.

[M]any intolerant gay liberals really don’t care so much about how gay Republicans feel about “issues utterly unrelated to gay rights,” except to assume unfairly that their motivation is probably selfish (i.e., lower taxes) rather than not (i.e., national security, foreign policy, etc.).

The real source of their trouble is their singular focus on gay civil rights as an issue that ought to trump every other, so much so that they bear real feelings of betrayal and outright hatred for any one of “our own” who support politicians or even political parties on the other side of that issue. (No doubt that singular focus is easier when they just so happen to agree with Democrats on most every other issue.) [...]

The problem with the witch hunt at Manhunt, to slightly restate Jamie’s point, is too many on the gay left who believe that because of how the parties stand on gay rights, to be gay and Republican is a betrayal not to be tolerated, especially if you support individual politicians like McCain who have a rotten gay rights record.
- Chris Crain


And finally..


[C]ampaign rhetoric and partisan posturing aside, Obama is not perfect and McCain is not a homophobe…

Does our community have room for, as example, my gay African-American Democratic friend who is concerned that Barack Obama does not have adequate experience or maturity for this position? Is there a place for my gay Republican friend who thinks that McCain is a move in the right direction by the Republican Party and who wants to vote to support this improvement? What about women who believe that Hillary Clinton was treated grossly unfair by DNC operatives?

Or are gay activist correct in demanding that those who do not give unqualified support for the Democratic Party candidate are traitors and should be reviled and punished?
- Timothy Kincaid, Box Turtle Bulletin


It's simply not fair to assume that all Republicans think the same way.. that we all support the likes of Bush, etc.. Just as it would be insane of me to assume the same of Democrats. It's my party too, darn it!

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

yes really..the truth will set you free

I'm by no means a Log Cabin Republican.. however I am a Republican and nothing could be more untrue than to say I hate myself! In fact I am probably guilty of loving myself and my "gayness" too much! Why sould I be a Democrat when I agree with almost NOTHING they stand for?

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

It's simply not fair to assume that all Republicans think the same way.. that we all support the likes of Bush, etc.. Just as it would be insane of me to assume the same of Democrats. It's my party too, darn it!

Riddle me this ..did you not at one time vote for George W. Bush?

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

Riddle me this ..did you not at one time vote for George W. Bush?

Yes I did.. Do I regret it now.. YES YES YES! That was also a few years ago when I had many different views that have since changed.

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

Yes I did.. Do I regret it now.. YES YES YES! That was also a few years ago when I had many different views that have since changed.

well perhaps there is hope for you yet.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

well perhaps there is hope for you yet.

I suppose you missed almost all of my posts since I have returned a few weeks ago. I have spoken out against the war, called out the far right nut cases, expressed my disdain for the "religious right", etc..

I've done much growing and soul searching over the past few years and it has changed a lot of my views.. through all that I still find myself to be a Republican despite it all.. I'll never be a socialist Democrat.