security shoving hot young girls in front of Lindsey?

[teedeerocks]

Just wondering - how does Stevie react to all this BS?Does she give them/Lindsey dirty looks or is she just oblivious to the whole thing?Also,does she interact with the front row people and if so,what does she do?

[kak125]

Originally Posted by teedeerocks

Just wondering - how does Stevie react to all this BS?Does she give them/Lindsey dirty looks or is she just oblivious to the whole thing?Also,does she interact with the front row people and if so,what does she do?

I think Stevie is oblivious. She rarely interacts with anybody in the front row but at the Pittsburgh show she did sign what I think was the Buckingham Nicks record. Everybody was shocked because she never does that!

I think FM just needs to have a general admission pit section at the front of the stage that way it will at least be fair. The shows I have been to that have GA at the front, require wristbands so its very easy to tell who belongs there and who doesn't.

[Moz]

I agree with the others who said 2009 was a better time. They let anyone and everyone up, regardless of age or gender.

It seems pretty clear to me that they aren't just bringing up young, enthusiastic fans. They're specifically bringing up conventionally attractive young women. I'm young, enthusiastic, and at the concert I went to, there were other under-30 fans who clearly would've liked to go up to the stage, but we were all stopped by security. The only people who were allowed to the stage were those with front row seats and tall, thin girls in tight dresses who were corralled in front of Lindsey.

So I can't really buy the excuse that security wants enthusiastic people at the stage, unless they're dressed up and attractive and placed in front of Lindsey. If they wanted fun people in the front, they could try expanding their criteria.

[brad975]

I've been a huge Stevie fan since 1984 (and the Mac, more or less). But I've never seen them in concert. I bought a 1987 ticket, but it turned out being in another city the night before my SAT, so I couldn't go.

I saw Stevie in Atlanta in 2001, and it was pretty good. But not amazeballs enough for me to shell out big bucks for a great seat at a Fleetwood Mac show.

I had a chance through an AmEx offer to get great seats on this tour, but it just seemed like too much moolah. And then I remembered the distastefulness of the young "hotties" getting trotted out in front of Lindsey, and I thought "Nah" just before pushing the Ticketmaster trigger.

But then again, I'm not huge on crowds. But if you're too far away, it's almost pointless being there. I remember paying $150 to see Madonna on tour in 2001 and having to watch her through binoculars.

I guess I'll never see the Mac live. But who knows.

[teedeerocks]

Originally Posted by Moz

I agree with the others who said 2009 was a better time. They let anyone and everyone up, regardless of age or gender.

It seems pretty clear to me that they aren't just bringing up young, enthusiastic fans. They're specifically bringing up conventionally attractive young women. I'm young, enthusiastic, and at the concert I went to, there were other under-30 fans who clearly would've liked to go up to the stage, but we were all stopped by security. The only people who were allowed to the stage were those with front row seats and tall, thin girls in tight dresses who were corralled in front of Lindsey.

So I can't really buy the excuse that security wants enthusiastic people at the stage, unless they're dressed up and attractive and placed in front of Lindsey. If they wanted fun people in the front, they could try expanding their criteria.

I guess Bucky plays guitar better with a hard - on then he does "at ease".Maybe when he's banging that guitar of his he's really thinking about banging his other instrument somewhere else...........although in his tight ass jeans,that could be a medical emergency.Ok Elle,chime in!!!

[Hawkeye]

Originally Posted by Moz

I agree with the others who said 2009 was a better time. They let anyone and everyone up, regardless of age or gender.

It seems pretty clear to me that they aren't just bringing up young, enthusiastic fans. They're specifically bringing up conventionally attractive young women. I'm young, enthusiastic, and at the concert I went to, there were other under-30 fans who clearly would've liked to go up to the stage, but we were all stopped by security. The only people who were allowed to the stage were those with front row seats and tall, thin girls in tight dresses who were corralled in front of Lindsey.

So I can't really buy the excuse that security wants enthusiastic people at the stage, unless they're dressed up and attractive and placed in front of Lindsey. If they wanted fun people in the front, they could try expanding their criteria.

Oh I didn't know all of that. Wow, there's really no excuse then. maybe this is one of the things that prevent Stevie from ever being friends with Lindsey.

[wayner]

Reading the last few day's comments about this situation compels me to also chime in... I have to date been to 7 of the shows for this tour, all tickets purchased were Mick Fleetwood VIP or platinum seating , and all 4th row center or closer... I dont even want to know what I have spent as sometimes there was just myself and my wife, other times we had guests as well... first show was Madison Square Garden first night, we had 4th row, and security were only allowing rows 1-3 which seemed fair and was something I could live with . Second night we had 2nd row, and were allowed to go to the stage.. ditto Prudential Center several days later... We get to Philadelphia and all of a sudden it is first row only to the stage,which was fine for me as I had first row, but my guests in the 2nd row were told to remain in their seats, only to have their view blocked by the 'invited guests'. hand picked by Ian ..ditto Hartford, same deal, and Atlantic City again same deal
What may be my last FM concert was Nassau Coliseium, where we had first row dead center... we were allowed to go to the stage,unfortunately during the middle of the concert nature called.. upon my return to my fully paid for seat i discovered that it was totally impossible to even get back to my seat, much less the spot at the stage i was standing at ...enough is enough and Ian and his henchmen should be protecting the interests of the fans paying good money for their tickets

[lovethemac1]

Originally Posted by WelshWitchPMD

No if you paid for the front row spot then you have every right to be there. I'm sure Lindsey didn't mind at all. What show did this happen?

It was the Winnipeg show, last tour. He did interact with me a bit, which I have described in other threads. So fun, something I'll remember forever.

[LittleDemon]

I've been to just as many shows and paid the price to do the VIP or PLAT for the stage experience making sure was in the first 3-4 rows. The first 4 used to be allowed up. Then it was 3. Very few younger people were farmed up but there were some but not enough where it bothered me. Now it does because my $750 or more seat no longer can get me to the stage. The attractive people can go though. I dreamed all my life to be at the stage and a a long-term fan would expect the first 3 rows could still go up not be nudged out by kids not even born yet during the days we loved them. Lindsey has changed on stage. He used to listen politely and some times chime in during Stevie's stories. Now he is rude to her and actually will talk to the girls at this feet or even sit on a speaker to get closer flirting. One young girl who left her mother to be taken up front, said she felt so bad that her mom was now alone watching the show but she wasn't going to say no, she was a huge fan but she said she became very turned off when Lindsey who was old enough to be their grandfather was making eyes at all of them and flirting. She got into the music though and had a great time but was not impressed. Very sweet girl. So now it's just changed the way I feel about going to these shows, paying all the money to be at the stage. Not that they need me, but I'm done with it. My 3rd row seat at the next one will just have me ticked off that all of these girls just go in front. One time before I knew that they had changed the rules this tour, I headed up during the cricket time and was told by Ian to go back to my seat as we were NOT INVITED as a parade of blondes were put in our place. That did it for me. It makes me sick. It didn't matter that we were a VIP and he said as much, that did not ENTITLE you to a spot at the stage. Really torked me to no end. He could have just let us stay there, we got there as the lights went down but were scanned over and told to go to our seat to make room for the bimbos. Like you said, they drink, move all around, take selfies, talk, talk, talk and are a total distraction. I understand that there are groups that do this and escort people to better seats and save actual seats but the way Fleetwood Mac is doing this is disgusting. I am VERY disappointed in this behavior and this new way of doing things. Lindsey is having fun though. Stevie doesn't interact. She's up there doing a great job and I do believe she is out there seeing all the smiles and waves, she's just not having the young men farmed up there in front of her and making an A$$ out of herself. She's giving her all and enjoying the feedback. Lindsey is doing a great job too but it's changed the way I feel with all this nonsense going on.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by LittleDemon

Lindsey has changed on stage. He used to listen politely and some times chime in during Stevie's stories. Now he is rude to her and actually will talk to the girls at this feet or even sit on a speaker to get closer flirting.

I don't think they should be bringing people up out of the crowd. However, I think Lindsey interacting with the people on his side of the stage at this part of the show has has less to do with his desire to flirt than with general restlessness during the Gypsy intro, which is by no means as entertaining as the Without You intro and far more self-indulgent. John and Christine talk to each other during this speech. For Without You, Lindsey might be distracted as it wore on for 9 minutes, but Stevie eventually called on him to participate. No one has any reason to stay on their toes for the Gypsy speech. He bends down by the foot speaker and mouths words to the people near him, so it's not exactly a ruckus. I don't think it is impacting Stevie at all.

Michele

[reebokandlace]

I can only hope someone from the band reads these all these posts and ends this practice....lets see what happens in montreal.

[reebokandlace]

Originally Posted by smb023

Bimbos? Really? The name calling is a little much. Also, what's wrong with having a drink? Nearly every person at the show I went to had a drink in hand. It's not just the younger crowd. Everyone's there to have a good time.

Obviously feelings aren't going to change. I can tell because this thread has dozens of pages that are just saying the same thing over and over. & I'm not trying to start anything I'm just asking that there's less generalization around the people that are being taken up. I cried and I actually saw another girl cry when we were invited. There is only one other time that I've cried out of happiness in my life. That's how meaningful that was and to see countless people on here refer to us as "bimbos" or whatever is a little disrespectful.

I think bimbos is a little harsh. I think the anger shouldn't be directed at the girls who are choosen to stand in the $750 seat section, but should be directed at the people who are allowing this to happen. This is the fault of the band. Of course it is a once in a lifetime experience for many people to be choosen to go up and get a free ride, the issue is people have paid alot of money for their once in a lifetime experience, only to have it ruined by a crowd of additional people who are intruding on the space they paid good money for to ensure their own once in a lifetime experience. Blame the band, not the girls. The only way to stop this is to MAKE the band stop by filing a lawsuit for damages (there are tons of videos showing this happening)....otherwise roll over and take it from them.

[TsnFan4Ever]

It was disgusting how poorly Ian and Justin treated the VIP guests at the show I attended. I have never been so rudely treated as I was by both of them--for no reason except they wanted to put the "right" people up there--who didn't deserve it and didn't pay to be there. It's also really upsetting how the rules change with the venue--first three rows at the first concerts and then all of a sudden, it was only the first. Then when everyone who didn't have a ticket crowded in, 2nd. row seats became essentially 6th row because of all the extra people crowding in

Maybe if I'd been able to see another show during this tour (if tickets were available in So. Cal) and if these tickets didn't cost double what they did last year, it wouldn't be quite as bad. But Mick and Lindsey need to get their priorities straight. Their long-time fans who are literally supporting them by paying these exorbitant prices for these tickets have a right to be treated with some respect.

This behavior wouldn't be tolerated where I work; why are we putting up with it here? In hindsight, I wish I hadn't bought my ticket 6 months in advance so that I could have disputed the charge when all of this happened. Please let me know if anyone does initiate a lawsuit. I'm in.

[Fever Dance]

Originally Posted by smb023

Bimbos? Really? The name calling is a little much. Also, what's wrong with having a drink? Nearly every person at the show I went to had a drink in hand. It's not just the younger crowd. Everyone's there to have a good time.

Obviously feelings aren't going to change. I can tell because this thread has dozens of pages that are just saying the same thing over and over. & I'm not trying to start anything I'm just asking that there's less generalization around the people that are being taken up. I cried and I actually saw another girl cry when we were invited. There is only one other time that I've cried out of happiness in my life. That's how meaningful that was and to see countless people on here refer to us as "bimbos" or whatever is a little disrespectful.

I also hate the word bimbo. However some of these girls are definitely taking advantage of the situation even boast about it on social media. I can't tell you how many times I've cried at Lindsey and Stevie's feet myself. But I would never feel entitled to be up there in front of any other fan who had paid for a VIP seat. I've even let shorter and disabled fans in front of me at shows

And of course there is nothing wrong with drinking at a concert but at my show, Lindsey's herd of girls were blocking the view and aisle of VIP people and the constant bathroom breaks and leaving to get more drinks was distracting and rude. Not only to the audience but also to the man they were brought down to worship.

And you're right, feelings aren't going to change. What FM'S security is doing is wrong and they're losing lifelong fans because of it.

[Macfanforever]

He's a pro and never miss a note without loosing his concentration playing and singing while drooling as he looks at these young girls dancing in front of him.Got to give him credit for that.

Yea .He can look but not touch as the saying goes.LOL......