"Time" Appreciation Thread

[Gailh]

Originally Posted by foxyluva

The main issue I have with Time is that it is crap - well for Fleetwood Mac anyway. I would have preferred Mick to not soil Fleetwood Mac's name any further, and just gone ahead and re-recorded with The Zoo.

there is one positive though, the production is much better than BTM.

I don't think it's that bad.

There are some good songs on it - Christine just can't help herself she always writes good stuff.

I don't see what Dave Mason was doing on it at all (and by all accounts neither did Christine)

I know some people really like it but I cant stand The Strange Times - it drives me completely and utterly barking mad.

Gail

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by foxyluva

The main issue I have with Time is that it is crap

My exact sentiments about Mirage...and to just a slight lesser extent, Rumours.

[Miss Vicky]

Originally Posted by chiliD

My exact sentiments about Mirage...and to just a slight lesser extent, Rumours.

Ditto.

[ontheEdgeof17]

Not a bad song on Time....

expect I do skip These Strange Times a lot...kinda freaks me out.

Winds of Change is prob in my Top 10 Favorite 'Mac songs of all time.

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

Winds of Change is prob in my Top 10 Favorite 'Mac songs of all time.

Ditto here!

One of the few times, though, I wish that Lindsey would've made a guest appearance on lead guitar (he made the guest appearance on the wrong song on Time). I can hear a solo similar to his solo on Christine's "The Smile I Live For" on this one. I have to admit (mark the calendar) Mason's solo on that is really pretty wimpy.

[bretonbanquet]

"Time" is a class album - I was amazed when I heard it because I'd seen it rubbished so often. I realise that I may well be alone in this view, but I think it's an insight into where the band should have gone instead of "The Dance" and so on.

There isn't a bad song on "Time" (as someone said) - more than can be said for "Behind The Mask" which barely has a good song on it, IMO. I've given it so many chances, but I still can't stand it. Only Hard Feelings and Do You Know get played with any regularity in this house

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by bretonbanquet

"There isn't a bad song on "Time" (as someone said) - more than can be said for "Behind The Mask" which barely has a good song on it, IMO. I've given it so many chances, but I still can't stand it. Only Hard Feelings and Do You Know get played with any regularity in this house

The poor quality of the production (how could Greg Ladanyi do so well on Jackson Browne albums and screw up on BTM boggles my mind) is what keeps BTM from getting more play from me. That's why I seem to listen to the outtakes more than the album itself. The production quality of the BTM outtakes, in most cases, is far superior to the final product (as well as the song choices).

[bretonbanquet]

Originally Posted by chiliD

The production quality of the BTM outtakes, in most cases, is far superior to the final product (as well as the song choices).

From what I've heard of the outtakes, I'd agree with you there, especially about the choice of Rick's songs. How Stand on the Rock got on there ahead of some of the others, I just don't understand. If Rick had stuck around, "Time" would have been even stronger with a couple of his songs, perhaps instead of Dave Mason's.

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by bretonbanquet

From what I've heard of the outtakes, I'd agree with you there, especially about the choice of Rick's songs. How Stand on the Rock got on there ahead of some of the others, I just don't understand. If Rick had stuck around, "Time" would have been even stronger with a couple of his songs, perhaps instead of Dave Mason's.

If Rick had stuck around, there wouldn't have been the need to ask Dave Mason to join, so yeah, his tunes instead of Dave's.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by foxyluva

I would have preferred Mick to not soil Fleetwood Mac's name any further

Hmmm, haven't people been saying this since "Future Games?"

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Hmmm, haven't people been saying this since "Future Games?"

Kiln House, actually.

[bretonbanquet]

Originally Posted by chiliD

Kiln House, actually.

Some people were saying they'd sold out when "Albatross" and Then Play On were released... although they weren't blaming Mick that time

[Miss Vicky]

Diss BTM all you want, but that album will always rank high on my list if for no other reason than the fact that it contains "In the Back of My Mind," my all time favorite Billy song (despite that freaky "I know what it's like" intro which I can only assume was Mick's doing).

[David]

Originally Posted by Miss Vicky

Diss BTM all you want, but that album will always rank high on my list if for no other reason than the fact that it contains "In the Back of My Mind," my all time favorite Billy song (despite that freaky "I know what it's like" intro which I can only assume was Mick's doing).

I never hear you discuss the plasticity of the listening experience: surely that plays as great a role in an album's stature as more logistical concerns (such as what song is on what CD).

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by chiliD

Kiln House, actually.

I was going to say that, but figured that Jeremy was on that one. "Future Games" was the first without either of their original guitarists, AND it had an American!