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Old 11-09-2020, 11:06 AM
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I didn't say it was a great album. Half of it is excellent and the other half is meh. I loved hearing Christine play keyboards again. That is something almost non-existent on Tango. Stevie's songs were pretty much duds. You can hear that blues rhythm section of the band again.
I disliked the light 80s synth pop of Tango. Although there are great songs on both albums.
I agree with every word. I listened to half of the songs until I knew every note. The other half, NOT. Love is Dangerous was $tevie's only good song on it.

I couldn't tell you the last time I played BTM...probably at LEAST a decade ago. Maybe two!
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Old 11-09-2020, 11:38 AM
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I agree with every word. I listened to half of the songs until I knew every note. The other half, NOT. Love is Dangerous was $tevie's only good song on it.

I couldn't tell you the last time I played BTM...probably at LEAST a decade ago. Maybe two!
Programmed bass is such a turn off for me especially when you have legend John McVie. That is why I can never dig songs like Caroline

Stevie destroyed such an amazing song "I Sing for the things" on her RAL version with programmed bass.

Very common in the 80's but its like nails down a chalkboard for me
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Old 11-09-2020, 11:49 AM
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I'm glad Justin started up this new thread on BTM, it's fun to look at with retrospect. Especially, when it comes to drilling down to Christine and Stevie's best moments. Overall, an opportunity lost to really shine, without flaw, for the both of them and while both had good moments they failed to really rise to the occasion. While it's easy to blame the bland production, the real problem lies with the mediocre songwriting. Burnett and Vito also could not fill the gap. That said, I agree that 1/2 the album is great and the other half is forgettable. Ms Nicks best moment, while she turned in a great vocal on the song of this thread, to me was the last 60 seconds of Freedom, she turned it up a notch and ditched the nasal singing that ruined the song, "all the looks that you used on me don't work now that you've fallen...Freedom, come with me". The beautiful slide guitar matched this fade out to give her her best moment on the album. Christine on the other hand did it with entire songs- the title track, while a little tinny sounding was a great track performed with conviction and feeling. Save Me continued her string of great pop songs if a little bland, was good for 1990. The guys just were not A game enough to bring BTM to greatness, besides their great playing, their songwriting is second tier. The tour on the other hand, was where this line up shone and could hold an audience for the 2 hours they played. Stevie sounded great, especially towards the end of the tour, and Christine, knowing it was her last, put on some great performances and she was in the finest live voice of her career at that point. The guys were great live and played well of the classic rhythm section. Another album or two may have corrected some of the missteps of BTM and who knows where they could have gone. Sadly, we'll never know the answer to that question.
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Old 11-28-2020, 01:58 AM
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Lindsey’s absence wasn’t the problem. It’s not like his songs on Mirage and TITN were classics, save for “Big Love.” ITBOMM was just as good as anything Lindsey released with Fleetwood Mac in the ‘80s if we’re being honest. He wouldn’t have saved the day.

Christine was magnificent, the harmonies were superb, and Rick had one of the best solos in the band’s history. Lindsey couldn’t have done the “Save Me” solo on his best day.

The problem was subpar production, not going with better songs, and subpar songs from Stevie.

The band should have gotten Ken Caillat, Mitchell Froom, or Jeff Lynn to produce.

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Skies the Limit
Victim of Love
Freedom
Intuition
Save Me
In the Back of My Mind
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Behind the Mask
When the Sun Goes Down
Affairs of the Heart
Do you Know
Love Is Dangerous
Game of Love
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Old 11-28-2020, 08:25 AM
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Great track listing Steve Mac- infinitely better songs than the Stand on the Rocks, Hard Feelings and Second Times that dragged the record down. Not sure if Desiree was available then but boy, what a great song that one is. For all the criticism Time takes, the production was wonderful and would've changed the whole vibe of BTM and possibly made it a moderately high seller. Although the band was on the outs by the time 1990 rolled around.

As far as the Stevie songs, I think Affairs should have been replaced with the Dealer, BTM was its proper time in my view. Freedom would've been killer with a better, softer more controlled vocal along the lines of Angel or Sisters of the Moon from Tusk.

Christine songs with better production, would've been like the fine wine to match her great voice at the time. Although lacking some of the hooks of her previous work, her songs we generally all good.

For producer, I'm going to go with Keith Olsen- he would've done the necessary work to make this album great.
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Another "What If?" What if Stevie had not done TOSOTM and instead, the glorious Rooms on Fire became the BTM signature hit with warm tones of Olsen's production and Vito's extraordinary guitar skills?
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Lindsey’s absence wasn’t the problem. It’s not like his songs on Mirage and TITN were classics, save for “Big Love.” ITBOMM was just as good as anything Lindsey released with Fleetwood Mac in the ‘80s if we’re being honest. He wouldn’t have saved the day.

Christine was magnificent, the harmonies were superb, and Rick had one of the best solos in the band’s history. Lindsey couldn’t have done the “Save Me” solo on his best day.

The problem was subpar production, not going with better songs, and subpar songs from Stevie.

The band should have gotten Ken Caillat, Mitchell Froom, or Jeff Lynn to produce.

SONGS

Skies the Limit
Victim of Love
Freedom
Intuition
Save Me
In the Back of My Mind
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Behind the Mask
When the Sun Goes Down
Affairs of the Heart
Do you Know
Love Is Dangerous
Game of Love
Apart from When It Comes to Love (really a glorified Climie Fisher song) I really love the ones you've left off - they helped make the album for me.
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