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Well, i'm a sucker for "sara"....but i never cared for her solo band's version...they changed things around too much and it wasn't as tight as FM...then again, i didn't really care for any of the 1982 versions either...she was all over the place vocally and it got annoying. i've never heard the 1988 version. yeah, you're right about her vocal approach these days....i really don't know what the reason is...and, yes, we have analyzed this to death...i wish Stevie would comment on it herself....i think there are so many reasons. i don't think it's just because of the backup players. she had that on her solo tours and that didn't stop her....at least until 1989. As a matter of fact, one might think that they can just go as crazy as they want because there's extra people up there to cover their ass. So, in 1987, imo, non-partying was a REALLY big factor. additionally, things got less crazy, FM wasn't the same, she hit 40, and her attitude changed...and i'm sure there's **** that happened to her that we don't even know about that would make any of us sober up. I've known of people that just turned into blobs when they quit drinking...it's like they can't function at social events and seem devoid of any genuine emotions. it's sad. Lindsey needs to watch it too. His voice isn't exactly what it was...Hey, don't flame me people, this is just par for the course.. I was watching "blondie-a&e's live by request" and she's had to drop the key in a lot of her songs too. Obviously, some songs just aren't going to sound as good or transfer over as well in a lower key. Quote:
I'll have to listen again to it. I only heard it once when i downloaded it. The thing that attracted me to Mick's drumming was that tribal feel he used to incorporate....he hasn't played that way in a while. That's what i really love about the older FM records...his best moments shined then. And i really really REALLY hate the vest thing during "World Turning"...it would be my beer run song except they close the bar at 9pm....it was cute in 1987 cause everthing was synth oriented then anyway, but for me, real instruments win hands down....i would be thrilled to see him just pound away at that old talking drum instead of abbreviating that part to a minute or two...and then slapping himself like a spaz....anyone can hit pads concealed in their vest...those old "World Turning" drum solos of years past were so interesting to listen to....very eerie in a way. But i just couldn't get past the lower key they sang "IKINW" in. Unfortunately, i really don't like any of the songs that are dropped in a lower key..."the chain" has never been the same since they dropped it down. I think this is because of Lindsey. That part "i can STILL HEAR YOU SAYIN" is a bit hard to reach. Quote:
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If Lindsey sometimes doesn't sound that good live, it has nothing to do with whether his voice has gotten worse or better. He's just not a great live singer. Period. He has great moments, but often he pushes his voice too high, probably as a result of also having to play the guitar. It may not even be subconscious, but his playing and singing are in competition the whole time he is playing up there. It is tough to strike the right balance of playing, especially when you're doing leads as opposed to rhythm, and singing at the correct register. For instance, as much as I love the Tusk version from the Dance, his voice grates on me a little bit. I wish he'd sing it like the original, but I bet it's very hard to do. Be that as it may, I seriously doubt the key in The Chain was changed to accommodate Lindsey. Considering Dreams and Landslide were changed for Stevie, the most likely reason for The Chain change is also Stevie's voice. I would bet that is also why Peacekeeper was changed from the original to the SYW version. They're certainly not changing keys to accommodate Lindsey's guitars. Though to be sure certain keys are easier to play on the guitar than other, key changes for performances are usually because of the vocals. For instance, Peackeeper in Em is a hell of a lot easier to play than in Gm, but that's Gm is what the song was changed to. Of course the use of a capo makes playing in Gm relatively easy. To be sure, Lindsey's voice overall may have coarsened a bit. It would be very unusual if it hadn't. But he can still blow some serious highs. I don't think he's lost nearly as much range as Stevie did. |
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He recorded "I'm So Afraid" in Gm (which was, by his own admission, not the right key for him to sing)...even that first tour they did together in 1975, he dropped the key to Fm. I'm assuming that's still the key they play it in today...unless he's playing a guitar that has been tuned a full step lower and they're playing it in Ebm
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I wondered about Lindseys voice too last year after hearing the Today show clips. It seemed he lost it completely. Or listen to the real bad Harrison cover. The same thing is going on in the Madison clips. I think it doesn`t sound good. All these clips were not too good in terms of audio quality- so I`m not sure it is a viable source. As I finally saw him live last year in Oberhausen his voice sounded fine and there was nothing to complain about. The same thing the people said that attended the Today show live. Anyway I don`t like what I heard from DLMDA- due to the sound file or not. Red rover seems to be the best addition. And IKINW- the dadadadada part is a great idea- like that. |
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Though I think he's always been a great singer, I agree that Lindsey has matured A LOT vocally. No, he's not able to be technically great onstage, but he sacrifices that for passion, which is certainly fine by me. That way we get to experience both aspects of one Mr. LB vocally. It's true, a lot of artists who have chosen to continue to perform as they age have had to change keys...big deal. They've had to do it because they are human beings. We can except these as the "now" versions, as opposed to automatically deeming them "worse" or "inadequate" versions. We can enjoy them for what they are now, because the only alternative is no FM at all...they can't, afterall, reverse the aging process. I do, however, think it would work EXTREMELY WELL in the band's favor to do a complete overhaul of some of the songs instead of doing versions that can seem pale in comparison to the old ones to those of us who dissect the details. Just as Gypsy worked so much better at AHI '00 done completely acoustically. Ever since the pnemonenon that was MTV's Unplugged, the public at large digs that stuff anyway.
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