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Old 04-29-2018, 09:37 AM
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More sweeping statements....
I'm a Stevie fan and I loved the Buckvie album, and don't view Lindsey as a monster for calling it Buckingham McVie.
The constant generalising about Stevie fans does get irritating. And I realise it's not going to change.
I know... it's crazy that anyone would think a Stevie fan wouldn't like the Buck/Vie album out of some sense of, what, loyalty? It was going to be a FM album, Stevie declined to participate, so it became a 'duets' album (without any duets). I did miss Stevie's presence on it, just like I missed Christine's presence on Say You Will, but I still liked it. In fact, I liked Buck/Vie more than Say You Will.

Some Lindsey superfans want it both ways- Stevie refused to participate, yet at the same time she's jealous they made the album without her. It's a contradiction. Stevie had the choice to participate and she declined. If she were jealous that Christine and Lindsey were working together, she would have joined them. And what was there to be jealous of? Christine gave him 5 songs, Lindsey did his usual production work on them, and that was it. It wasn't like they were in the studio working late hours, curled up together in a blanket writing lyrics together LOL!

Instead of looking for MORE excuses to hate Stevie, why not just focus on the ones we know are true, instead of making up superfluous reasons LOL?
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Old 04-29-2018, 09:43 AM
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All that time spent in rehearsal is probably actually spent in recording the backing tracks they will use in their concerts. I wonder how much of the music in the shows will be actually performed live.
Probably more live than the Buck/Vie shows, since they have enough money to hire real live musicians and back up singers.
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Old 04-29-2018, 09:44 AM
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The BuckVie shows had LOTS of pre-recorded tracks as did the last FM tour with Christine. This isnít new.
I suppose it's a good thing then I don't attend concerts any more. That is no longer playing music. Imagine if a symphony orchestra pre-recorded its string parts, or if an opera singer lip synced!

If Fleetwood Mac are too old to play their parts then they should call it a day.
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Old 04-29-2018, 09:48 AM
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He couldn't say it directly I suppose, that would have caused even more fuss

Come to think of it, why not state the obvious? Why shouldn't Mick simply say Stevie and Lindsey can't work together any more? Isn't that obvious to all of us, and even the casual fan? It would be more truthful and less infuriating than the lies they are peddling now.
Because theyíre still counting on all those super loyal Stevieís fans who think she has nothing to do with it, even though her good friend Mike Campbell was hired to replace Lindsey 6 days after Musicares. But Iím sure thatís just a coincidence
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I suppose it's a good thing then I don't attend concerts any more. That is no longer playing music. Imagine if a symphony orchestra pre-recorded its string parts, or if an opera singer lip synced!

If Fleetwood Mac are too old to play their parts then they should call it a day.
It's not even an age thing. Somewhere along the line, someone decided that concerts need to sound like the records. Like, EXACTLY like the records.

I do sound for a LOT of newer country acts, and 95% of them play with tracks. Hear that girl's voice on the chorus? Oh wait, there's no girl in the band!! Where's it coming from? Oh, the karaoke machine....

Mirage is the last time that FM was an actual band.
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She's something else, if you ask me...
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Old 04-29-2018, 09:51 AM
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Because theyíre still counting on all those super loyal Stevieís fans who think she has nothing to do with it, even though her good friend Mike Campbell was hired to replace Lindsey 6 days after Musicares. But Iím sure thatís just a coincidence
Which is why I don't believe in coincidence This was preplanned way in advance. She was just waiting for the right opportunity to pounce.
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Old 04-29-2018, 09:52 AM
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I don't think you're going to find ANYONE to argue that point.

I think this tour, and someone will leave. Neil would be my first bet.
Isnít he supposed to release an album with his son? So, yeah, heís using FM to somehow promote his new work
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Old 04-29-2018, 10:03 AM
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All I know is, the few shows theyíve had since Buckvie, Stevie refused to stand next to him in the final bows. ď as long as I stand I will take your hand ď. Stevie, ďIíll show himĒ. This is Stevieís doing mostly and it canít be denied anymore.
Yep, it started with The Classics, and I found it odd at that time, but everybody around me dismissed my paranoia
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Old 04-29-2018, 10:08 AM
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Awww, how cute!
I was torn between that, and this...
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All I know is, the few shows theyíve had since Buckvie, Stevie refused to stand next to him in the final bows.
I wonder why? Is it possible she's behaving that way, as he's been a complete and utter arsehole towards her? It is a possibility, just as much as the possibility that she was scheming to remove him from FM.
We have no idea what exchanges took place before he got fired.

Some of us are completely fed-up with the BN tension and looking forward to a new band dynamic, whether it lasts or not.
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I know... it's crazy that anyone would think a Stevie fan wouldn't like the Buck/Vie album out of some sense of, what, loyalty? It was going to be a FM album, Stevie declined to participate, so it became a 'duets' album (without any duets). I did miss Stevie's presence on it, just like I missed Christine's presence on Say You Will, but I still liked it. In fact, I liked Buck/Vie more than Say You Will.

Some Lindsey superfans want it both ways- Stevie refused to participate, yet at the same time she's jealous they made the album without her. It's a contradiction. Stevie had the choice to participate and she declined. If she were jealous that Christine and Lindsey were working together, she would have joined them. And what was there to be jealous of? Christine gave him 5 songs, Lindsey did his usual production work on them, and that was it. It wasn't like they were in the studio working late hours, curled up together in a blanket writing lyrics together LOL!

Instead of looking for MORE excuses to hate Stevie, why not just focus on the ones we know are true, instead of making up superfluous reasons LOL?
Stevie has always been jealous of the musical partnership Lindsey and Christine share, even since World Turning. This has anything to do with curling up together in a blanket. He has a wife and kids at home. Seriously.
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Isnít he supposed to release an album with his son? So, yeah, heís using FM to somehow promote his new work
Haha, between DDIO and Something So Strong, I couldn't tell you anything about them/him.
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Instead of looking for MORE excuses to hate Stevie, why not just focus on the ones we know are true, instead of making up superfluous reasons LOL?
Of course it must be all Stevie's fault, as Lindsey is an innocent angel and couldn't possibly have done anything to contribute to what just occurred

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I was torn between that, and this...
Hmmm, tough choice.
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