trump's 3 rd wife

[FuzzyPlum]

Originally Posted by SisterNightroad

True, nothing in comparison with you lukewarm british men. Always chasing after tea instead of women.

You can't beat a nice cuppa!

[iamnotafraid]

Originally Posted by SisterNightroad

It's safe to say that almost all of you here have been cheated or have cheated on the partner.

At what point does it become cheating?

And if I were married to Hillary...

[SisterNightroad]

Originally Posted by iamnotafraid

At what point does it become cheating?

Well, that depends from person to person. But if I were you I wouldn't ask your wife, she could get suspicious.

[welcomechris]

Taking those 3 sentences from Michelle's speech was wrong - but Melania didn't write it. Hillary doesn't write her own speeches either...

And since when does the left side care about honesty and integrity? You realize your presumptive nominee was "extremely careless" and put our national security at risk.

[SisterNightroad]

Donald Trump Promised the Truth. We Checked the Facts.

CLEVELAND — Donald J. Trump’s acceptance speech here was filled with Trump-like hyperbole and the kind of vague political rhetoric that is hard to pin down.

But there were also facts.

In describing the problems that he would seek to fix from the Oval Office, Mr. Trump offered a series of grim facts about crime, the economy, and foreign policy. “Here at our convention, there will be no lies,” Mr. Trump said.

Many of Mr. Trump’s facts appear to be true, though the Republican presidential nominee sometimes failed to offer the entire story, or provide all of the context that might help to explain his numbers.

And in some cases, the facts seemed inflated or misleading, part of a broader ideological message that Mr. Trump was hoping to convey.

Our fact-checks of some of his claims:

• “Homicides last year increased by 17 percent in America’s fifty largest cities. That’s the largest increase in 25 years.”

Fact Check: Those statistics are based on one analysis of preliminary crime data released by the Justice Department, and they accurately reflect what officials say is a spike in murders in some big cities. It leaves out the drop in others, like New York City, which saw a 25 percent drop in homicides in the first three months of 2016.


• “In our nation’s capital, killings have risen by 50 percent. They are up nearly 60 percent in nearby Baltimore.”

Fact Check: Those statistics are based on an analysis performed by The Washington Post, which found no clear pattern in which cities saw increases in homicides.


• “In the president’s hometown of Chicago, more than 2,000 have been the victims of shootings this year alone. And almost 4,000 have been killed in the Chicago area since he took office.”

Fact Check: This is largely true. The Chicago police department reports 2,242 shootings so far in 2016. And while it is unclear exactly what Mr. Trump means by “the Chicago area,” that figure appears to track with reported murders since the start of 2009.


• “The number of police officers killed in the line of duty has risen by almost 50 percent compared to this point last year.”

Fact Check: In fact, the Officer Down Memorial Page, which tracks officer deaths, reports that 68 police officers have been killed so far this year, almost exactly the same as the 69 who were killed in the same period last year.


• “Nearly 180,000 illegal immigrants with criminal records, ordered deported from our country, are tonight roaming free to threaten peaceful citizens.”

Fact Check: Those numbers come from a report by the Department of Homeland Security, which told Congress late last year that nearly 1 million undocumented immigrants have been ordered deported but remain in the country. Mr. Trump did not mention that most of those 180,000 are likely people charged with nonviolent crimes.


• “The number of new illegal immigrant families who have crossed the border so far this year already exceeds the entire total from 2015.”

Fact Check: This is true, according to reports from the Border Patrol, which said that more than 51,000 families have been apprehended on the border in the first nine months of the fiscal year, compared to about 40,000 last fiscal year. But that is still less than 2014, when a surge of families across the border caused a political stir.


• “Nearly four in 10 African-American children are living in poverty, while 58 percent of African-American youth are not employed.”

Fact Check: According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the unemployment rate of African Americans ages 16-19 in June was 31.2 percent (among whites of the same age, it was 14.1 percent).


• “Household incomes are down more than $4,000 since the year 2000.”

Fact Check: This is mostly true. Median household income in 2000 was $57,724; in 2014, which has the most recent available data, it was $53,657.


• “Our manufacturing trade deficit has reached an all-time high – nearly $800 billion in a single year.”

Fact Check: The goods deficit — more imported goods, less exported goods — was $763 billion last year. But that includes agricultural products and raw materials like coal. Moreover, the total trade deficit last year was only $500 billion because the U.S. runs a trade surplus in services.


• “President Obama has doubled our national debt to more than $19 trillion, and growing.”

Fact Check: The national debt was $10.6 trillion on the day Obama took office. It was $19.2 trillion in April, so not quite double, but close.


• “Forty-three million Americans are on food stamps.”

Fact Check: As of October, this figure was largely accurate, according to the United States Department of Agriculture.


• “In 2009, pre-Hillary, ISIS was not even on the map. Libya was cooperating. Egypt was peaceful. Iraq was seeing and, really, a big, big reduction in violence. Iran was being choked by sanctions. Syria was under control.”

Fact Check: Mr. Trump is mostly right. But Libya, Syria and Egypt were swept up in the Arab Spring, an uprising out of Mrs. Clinton’s and Mr. Obama’s control. And the sanctions on Iran were just getting ramped up at that time; they became far tougher under the Obama administration than they were during the Bush administration. That helped force Tehran to the negotiating table for last year’s deal.


• “This was just prior to the signing of the Iran deal, which gave back to Iran $150 billion and gave us nothing — it will go down in history as one of the worst deals ever negotiated.”

Fact Check: The deal does not directly give Iran money, but by easing or terminating sanctions, it would allow Iran to have access to many billions of dollars of its own money that has been frozen in overseas accounts. And the exact value of those sanctions is debatable.


• “My opponent has called for a radical 550 percent increase in Syrian refugees on top of existing massive refugee flows coming into our country under the leadership of President Obama.”

Fact Check: This is true, as Mrs. Clinton said in September she wanted to “move from what is a good start with 10,000 to 65,000.” But she also said she would improve the already extensive vetting process, especially from Syria.

[olive]

Originally Posted by SisterNightroad

Donald Trump Promised the Truth. We Checked the Facts.

CLEVELAND — Donald J. Trump’s acceptance speech here was filled with Trump-like hyperbole and the kind of vague political rhetoric that is hard to pin down.

But there were also facts.

In describing the problems that he would seek to fix from the Oval Office, Mr. Trump offered a series of grim facts about crime, the economy, and foreign policy. “Here at our convention, there will be no lies,” Mr. Trump said.

Many of Mr. Trump’s facts appear to be true, though the Republican presidential nominee sometimes failed to offer the entire story, or provide all of the context that might help to explain his numbers.

And in some cases, the facts seemed inflated or misleading, part of a broader ideological message that Mr. Trump was hoping to convey.

Our fact-checks of some of his claims:

• “Homicides last year increased by 17 percent in America’s fifty largest cities. That’s the largest increase in 25 years.”

Fact Check: Those statistics are based on one analysis of preliminary crime data released by the Justice Department, and they accurately reflect what officials say is a spike in murders in some big cities. It leaves out the drop in others, like New York City, which saw a 25 percent drop in homicides in the first three months of 2016.


• “In our nation’s capital, killings have risen by 50 percent. They are up nearly 60 percent in nearby Baltimore.”

Fact Check: Those statistics are based on an analysis performed by The Washington Post, which found no clear pattern in which cities saw increases in homicides.


• “In the president’s hometown of Chicago, more than 2,000 have been the victims of shootings this year alone. And almost 4,000 have been killed in the Chicago area since he took office.”

Fact Check: This is largely true. The Chicago police department reports 2,242 shootings so far in 2016. And while it is unclear exactly what Mr. Trump means by “the Chicago area,” that figure appears to track with reported murders since the start of 2009.


• “The number of police officers killed in the line of duty has risen by almost 50 percent compared to this point last year.”

Fact Check: In fact, the Officer Down Memorial Page, which tracks officer deaths, reports that 68 police officers have been killed so far this year, almost exactly the same as the 69 who were killed in the same period last year.


• “Nearly 180,000 illegal immigrants with criminal records, ordered deported from our country, are tonight roaming free to threaten peaceful citizens.”

Fact Check: Those numbers come from a report by the Department of Homeland Security, which told Congress late last year that nearly 1 million undocumented immigrants have been ordered deported but remain in the country. Mr. Trump did not mention that most of those 180,000 are likely people charged with nonviolent crimes.


• “The number of new illegal immigrant families who have crossed the border so far this year already exceeds the entire total from 2015.”

Fact Check: This is true, according to reports from the Border Patrol, which said that more than 51,000 families have been apprehended on the border in the first nine months of the fiscal year, compared to about 40,000 last fiscal year. But that is still less than 2014, when a surge of families across the border caused a political stir.


• “Nearly four in 10 African-American children are living in poverty, while 58 percent of African-American youth are not employed.”

Fact Check: According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the unemployment rate of African Americans ages 16-19 in June was 31.2 percent (among whites of the same age, it was 14.1 percent).


• “Household incomes are down more than $4,000 since the year 2000.”

Fact Check: This is mostly true. Median household income in 2000 was $57,724; in 2014, which has the most recent available data, it was $53,657.


• “Our manufacturing trade deficit has reached an all-time high – nearly $800 billion in a single year.”

Fact Check: The goods deficit — more imported goods, less exported goods — was $763 billion last year. But that includes agricultural products and raw materials like coal. Moreover, the total trade deficit last year was only $500 billion because the U.S. runs a trade surplus in services.


• “President Obama has doubled our national debt to more than $19 trillion, and growing.”

Fact Check: The national debt was $10.6 trillion on the day Obama took office. It was $19.2 trillion in April, so not quite double, but close.


• “Forty-three million Americans are on food stamps.”

Fact Check: As of October, this figure was largely accurate, according to the United States Department of Agriculture.


• “In 2009, pre-Hillary, ISIS was not even on the map. Libya was cooperating. Egypt was peaceful. Iraq was seeing and, really, a big, big reduction in violence. Iran was being choked by sanctions. Syria was under control.”

Fact Check: Mr. Trump is mostly right. But Libya, Syria and Egypt were swept up in the Arab Spring, an uprising out of Mrs. Clinton’s and Mr. Obama’s control. And the sanctions on Iran were just getting ramped up at that time; they became far tougher under the Obama administration than they were during the Bush administration. That helped force Tehran to the negotiating table for last year’s deal.


• “This was just prior to the signing of the Iran deal, which gave back to Iran $150 billion and gave us nothing — it will go down in history as one of the worst deals ever negotiated.”

Fact Check: The deal does not directly give Iran money, but by easing or terminating sanctions, it would allow Iran to have access to many billions of dollars of its own money that has been frozen in overseas accounts. And the exact value of those sanctions is debatable.


• “My opponent has called for a radical 550 percent increase in Syrian refugees on top of existing massive refugee flows coming into our country under the leadership of President Obama.”

Fact Check: This is true, as Mrs. Clinton said in September she wanted to “move from what is a good start with 10,000 to 65,000.” But she also said she would improve the already extensive vetting process, especially from Syria.

the Poorly Educated don't care .... it's not a lie if you believe it !

[FuzzyPlum]

Originally Posted by welcomechris

Taking those 3 sentences from Michelle's speech was wrong - but Melania didn't write it. Hillary doesn't write her own speeches either...

And since when does the left side care about honesty and integrity? You realize your presumptive nominee was "extremely careless" and put our national security at risk.

The fact she didn't write the speech is not a big deal- at the end of the day most politicians use writers for their speeches- that's pretty well known. The big mistake she made is to claim she mostly wrote it herself- she didn't. She should not have said anything- keep quiet, don't lie. It seems as if the bit she wrote herself is actually the bit that was lifted from Michelle. It just shows she thinks nothing of blatently lying- influenced by her husband?

The biggest issue is how the whole Trump campaign/GOP convention looks shoddily put together. For a campaign that costs a billion US dollars to run, it's riduculous nobody properly checked the speeches (neither Melania nor Ted Cruz). That's just rather amateurish. Be sure, for the Democrat convention they'll be vetting the speeches with a fine tooth comb. When you add in the whack-job speakers like Antonio Sabato who seems to have the intellect of a drainpipe, you've got to question whether Trump and his camp could properly organise a piss-up in a brewery. Your Republican party is fast making itself unelectable which isn't good. It needs to move away from being the 'nasty party' if it genuinely wants to be elected again in a hurry.


By the way, if anyone hasn't yet seen it; Michelle Obama is one of the coolest women on the planet. I hope she plays a significant part in politics herself one day. She's lovely;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln3wAdRAim4

[iamnotafraid]

Originally Posted by SisterNightroad

Well, that depends from person to person. But if I were you I wouldn't ask your wife, she could get suspicious.

My wife Candice Swanepoel (she didn't take my last name) is
very secure in our relationship. No suspicions.

The cheating thing, I was asking you. None of this person
to person thing.

[SisterNightroad]

Originally Posted by iamnotafraid

My wife Candice Swanepoel (she didn't take my last name) is
very secure in our relationship. No suspicions.

You're both very lucky.

The cheating thing, I was asking you. None of this person
to person thing.

Then I didn't understand your question. What do you mean with "At what point does it become cheating?"

[iamnotafraid]

Originally Posted by SisterNightroad

Then I didn't understand your question. What do you mean with "At what point does it become cheating?"

If you're in a relationship what would you
consider cheating?

In other words. Where's the line to cross
to where it becomes cheating?

Kind of personal I know. But you usually
give good answers.

[SisterNightroad]

Originally Posted by iamnotafraid

If you're in a relationship what would you
consider cheating?

In other words. Where's the line to cross
to where it becomes cheating?

Kind of personal I know. But you usually
give good answers.

I don't have a personal answer to this, in my very young life it still hasn't happened to me.

However it's true that it varies from person to person and new technologies are influencing this area as well, for example there's a great gap between those who consider sexting cheating and those who consider as cheating sexual exchanges through phone conversations and video.

There's a incredibly slight cultural difference however between men and women in what they consider cheating, and it is that men are usually a little more sensitive to sexual cheating and women are a little more sensitive toward emotional cheating. Like, would it be worse to hear that your significant other has had sex with another men/woman or that s/he has fallen in love with someone else, and thus isn't in love with you anymore? And obviously there are also those cases in which it's both of them. Obviously both men and women suffer the same in both cases but our culture enables this small gap.

Personally I think the cheating starts with the first lie. For example, from a clinical point of view, a typical scenario could be: a man/woman meets someone that likes them, is clearly interested in them and strokes their ego. Obviously nothing happens but having some light and fun conversation, and the other person may even be informed of the fact that they already are in a relationship, so the man/woman think "This is good. I'm not doing anything bad but having some innocent fun so it's not necessary to stop". Their significant other may be jealous, so they may not find necessary to tell him/her of their new acquaintance, after all they're not doing anyhting bad and it would only uselessly worry their partner; in fact it may be even seem to the man/woman that they're hiding it to do a favour to their significant other.
And that's how auto-justification strikes. It's a thin line then to cross over. At that point it isn't really cheating but when a person enables himself/herself so much it's almost impossible to go back. That's the first step.

[FuzzyPlum]

Originally Posted by iamnotafraid

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You have beautiful i's

[iamnotafraid]

Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum

You have beautiful i's

Stop your flirting. I don't want Candice jealous.

[iamnotafraid]

Originally Posted by SisterNightroad

I don't have a personal answer to this, in my very young life it still hasn't happened to me.

Like, would it be worse to hear that your significant other has had sex with another men/woman or that s/he has fallen in love with someone else, and thus isn't in love with you anymore?

I didn't realize you were so young.

I hope this comes as a complement, but you write older
than your years. Whatever year that is.

I think, speaking as a man that one type of cheating hurts
the ego. The other type hurts the heart.

[SisterNightroad]

Originally Posted by iamnotafraid

I didn't realize you were so young.

I hope this comes as a complement, but you write older
than your years. Whatever year that is.

Yes, actually I'm like an old woman inside the body of a girl of twenty-cough. I like generally passing the time napping, reading and sipping tea or infusions while judging others.