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Old 09-19-2010, 07:23 PM
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I've always believed that "The Tower" (later know as "Goodbye Baby") was clearly about her unborn child. However after discussing this topic with those much more familiar with it than I am, I have learned that the song is much more likely one of the "Rhiannon" songs as it fits the story line of the Evangeline Walton story of Rhiannon almost verbatim. I have the books, but I've never read them.
As for "Sara", I think that is in part about the unborn child. The song is about everything that was going on after the recording of "Rumours". She has often said that if she were to have a kid she would have named her Sara. She also used the name Sara Anderson when she checked into hotels. And Sara is the alias she used while at Betty Ford, thus "Welcome To The Room...Sara".
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I've always believed that "The Tower" (later know as "Goodbye Baby") was clearly about her unborn child. However after discussing this topic with those much more familiar with it than I am, I have learned that the song is much more likely one of the "Rhiannon" songs as it fits the story line of the Evangeline Walton story of Rhiannon almost verbatim.
I've read that too but I'll post it again:

Matt Baumann (director of Destiny Rules): "one of the more emotional moments made it to the film and that was when Stevie and Lindsey recorded "Goodbye Baby". That was shot very quietly late at night and due to the subject matter, was a very private and personal moment between those two."

Maybe it's just me, but I don't think he would have said that if the song was purely fictional...
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I've read that too but I'll post it again:

Matt Baumann (director of Destiny Rules): "one of the more emotional moments made it to the film and that was when Stevie and Lindsey recorded "Goodbye Baby". That was shot very quietly late at night and due to the subject matter, was a very private and personal moment between those two."

Maybe it's just me, but I don't think he would have said that if the song was purely fictional...
I don't know... to me it doesn't seem like such a deeply personal moment between them. There are parts where it could be, but Lindsey is very much caught up with his guitar and Stevie is being Stevie.


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I don't know... to me it doesn't seem like such a deeply personal moment between them. There are parts where it could be, but Lindsey is very much caught up with his guitar and Stevie is being Stevie.
Obviously they didn't include the entire footage in the film. Since Matt was there, I think he has a better perspective than we do....
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Obviously they didn't include the entire footage in the film. Since Matt was there, I think he has a better perspective than we do....
Of course they didn't, but he said it was one of the moments which made it into the film and what made it into the film doesn't scream deeply personal to me. I've always thought Goodbye Baby was about abortion, but I don't think we should jump to the conclusion that it must have been one between her and Lindsey because this guy says the moment was "deeply personal" because of the "subject matter". I highly doubt Stevie was like, "Oh lets do this song about mine and Lindsey's aborted baby!" For all we know, he may think this song is a song Stevie wrote about leaving Lindsey and how she felt wrong about it all these years. Now if Matt said oh this was about their baby Stevie aborted, then I would think there was some merit to that, but we are not only reading things into Stevie's song and believing it was about her abortion but then also reading things into Matt's words and assuming now that this song was not only about an abortion, but also one she had because of Lindsey's child. Like I said earlier, Stevie has admitted to having at least one abortion and I honestly wouldn't judge her if she had ten, but I think sometimes we speculate too much, which is fine, but I just want to provide a different perspective.
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Of course they didn't, but he said it was one of the moments which made it into the film and what made it into the film doesn't scream deeply personal to me. I've always thought Goodbye Baby was about abortion, but I don't think we should jump to the conclusion that it must have been one between her and Lindsey because this guy says the moment was "deeply personal" because of the "subject matter". I highly doubt Stevie was like, "Oh lets do this song about mine and Lindsey's aborted baby!" For all we know, he may think this song is a song Stevie wrote about leaving Lindsey and how she felt wrong about it all these years.
I agree with you. He probably does think that, especially when you pair the song with Say Goodbye, which Lindsey makes clear was written after he left the band. He probably thought the song was about them parting and nothing more.

But then let me take the other side for a moment. Even though Matt didn't know the true meaning of the song, if Stevie and Lindsey did, they still could have been sharing a tender abortion moment, only Matt didn't know. Of course, Lindsey probably doesn't know what the heck the song is about either, so he could have been looking at Stevie and thinking, "Oh, this is about when we broke up" and she could have been looking back at him very tearful and emotionally thinking, "Dude, you are really losing your hair fast, all of a sudden."

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