Fleetwood Mac is just so good! - Page 6

ButterCookie · #76 01-12-2010, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by trackaghost

So discussions outside of gushing about Fleetwood Mac aren't allowed here now? As long as I've been a member they have. Clearly some people want to talk about this even if you don't.

Woah, erm, Rude much? I think, upon reading DefDumbandBlond's post again, you could re-interpret it that I've managed to sway this poor thread about the Band into a pretty nasty debate about the Beatles and that she wants to get back onto the subject of Fleetwood Mac, as do I.

trackaghost · #77 01-12-2010, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ButterCookie

Woah, erm, Rude much? I think, upon reading DefDumbandBlond's post again, you could re-interpret it that I've managed to sway this poor thread about the Band into a pretty nasty debate about the Beatles and that she wants to get back onto the subject of Fleetwood Mac, as do I.

Are you serious? How is it a nasty debate? Threads often veer off topic into interesting territory. Just because they are not completely about Fleetwood Mac doesn't make them any less worthy.

ButterCookie · #78 01-12-2010, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by trackaghost

Are you serious? How is it a nasty debate? Threads often veer of topic into interesting territory. Just because they are not completely about Fleetwood Mac doesn't make them any less worthy.

I was referring sheer amount of contradiction and how some of these posts read.

trackaghost · #79 01-12-2010, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ButterCookie

I was referring sheer amount of contradiction and how some of these posts read.

I really don't see any nastiness here, just a discussion. If you think this thread is nasty please report it to the mods but if people aren't allowed to disagree and argue their opposing points then it takes away a huge part of what this board has always been about.

DefDumbandBlond · #80 01-12-2010, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by trackaghost

So discussions outside of gushing about Fleetwood Mac aren't allowed here now? As long as I've been a member they have. Clearly some people want to talk about this even if you don't.

I don't believe anywhere in my post I said it wasn't allowed. Not everyone here wants to 'gush' about The Beatles apparently, and I and quite a few others on here aren't the type of people who like to nit pick over things and keep arguing about something that everyone has a different opinion about. Sure people are allowed to argue their points, but who wants to come on the computer, which usually people do to relax during the day, to come on here and argue back and forth? Certainly not me. I don't get my kicks out of it.

trackaghost · #81 01-12-2010, 12:22 PM

But you don't have to join in or read it, so I don't understand what the problem is.

ButterCookie · #82 01-12-2010, 12:25 PM

Girls, it appears the mods on the other forums we use have allowed us to lead sheltered lives.

DefDumbandBlond · #83 01-12-2010, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by trackaghost

But you don't have to join in or read it, so I don't understand what the problem is.

No, I don't HAVE to read it. The problem is that I and quite a few others on here WANT to read about Fleetwood Mac, not pages upon pages of bickering!

trackaghost · #84 01-12-2010, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DefDumbandBlond

No, I don't HAVE to read it. The problem is that I and quite a few others on here WANT to read about Fleetwood Mac, not pages upon pages of bickering!>

But there's loads of threads here about Fleetwood Mac

You don't need to read this one if it annoys you so.
And there's discussions or "bickering" as you call it, in many of them too.

carrie721 · #85 01-12-2010, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by trackaghost

Are you serious? How is it a nasty debate? Threads often veer of topic into interesting territory. Just because they are not completely about Fleetwood Mac doesn't make them any less worthy.

why are you so mean, sharon???

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Originally Posted by DefDumbandBlond

I don't believe anywhere in my post I said it wasn't allowed. Not everyone here wants to 'gush' about The Beatles apparently, and I and quite a few others on here aren't the type of people who like to nit pick over things and keep arguing about something that everyone has a different opinion about. Sure people are allowed to argue their points, but who wants to come on the computer, which usually people do to relax during the day, to come on here and argue back and forth? Certainly not me. I don't get my kicks out of it.

WELCOME TO THE LEDGE.

if you do not want to have spirited debate; if you do not wish to be required to back up your claims/opinions; if you just want to talk about how awesome this/that/the other thing is without worrying that someone might have a dissenting thought, please check out seven wonders, as i hear there are few thoughts there, period, let alone dissenting ones.

David · #86 01-12-2010, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tdfwiner

I just thought I'd point out that a large chunk of the Beatles best work probably wouldn't exist if it weren't for the Beach Boys. Pet Sounds was a major influence on their post-Revolver work, especially SPLHCB. They were also a MAJOR influence on Lindsey.

I agree here. The tradition of orchestrations & arrangements -- the very notion itself that a track is built in a recording environment by layering voicings recorded at different times -- in the Beach Boys & certainly in the Beatles can be traced directly down to Fleetwood Mac during the Buckingham/Dashut/Caillat era.

In that sense, Fleetwood Mac is one of the most noticeable artistic heirs of the Beatles & the Beach Boys.

My own view is that I don't see how it's even possible (or at least how it's likely) to be drawn to Fleetwood Mac's work from 1977 to 1987 & not to find anything to like in the George Martin Beatles productions. They have so much in common in terms of methods (for example, employing instruments in ways for which they weren't specifically designed), tracking philosophies, even sounds. But I've always held a view that is a personal quirk: To adore Fleetwood Mac without being aware of Mac's Beatles-inspired track-building creativity is to miss the fundamental strength of the Mac from that period.

trackaghost · #87 01-12-2010, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by carrie721

why are you so mean, sharon???

Are you saying this because I spelled "off-topic" with only one "f"? :'(

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Originally Posted by tdfwiner

I just thought I'd point out that a large chunk of the Beatles best work probably wouldn't exist if it weren't for the Beach Boys. Pet Sounds was a major influence on their post-Revolver work, especially SPLHCB. They were also a MAJOR influence on Lindsey.

Very true although Brian Wilson was in turn inspired by The Beatles. Didn't he in fact make his masterpiece Pet Sounds because he wanted to make a better album than Rubber Soul (or was it Revolver)?

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Originally Posted by David

In that sense, Fleetwood Mac is one of the most noticeable artistic heirs of the Beatles & the Beach Boys.

My own view is that I don't see how it's even possible (or at least how it's likely) to be drawn to Fleetwood Mac's work from 1977 to 1987 & not to find anything to like in the George Martin Beatles productions. They have so much in common in terms of methods (for example, employing instruments in ways for which they weren't specifically designed), tracking philosophies, even sounds. But I've always held a view that is a personal quirk: To adore Fleetwood Mac without being aware of Mac's Beatles-inspired track-building creativity is to miss the fundamental strength of the Mac from that period.

Interesting. Thanks for that David. I always wondered how influenced Lindsey was by The Beatles. I know he did that George Harrison cover but I was sure there was more of an influence than that. Do you know if he, or any of the Mac, ever spoke about it?

michelej1 · #88 01-12-2010, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by trackaghost

Interesting. Thanks for that David. I always wondered how influenced Lindsey was by The Beatles. I know he did that George Harrison cover but I was sure there was more of an influence than that. Do you know if he, or any of the Mac, ever spoke about it?

I've heard Lindsey talking about them, but what I really remember is how Stevie said she was a little bit angry with them because Lindsey kept pushing the Beatles on her and she just got weary of hearing about them from him.

Michele

**jbrownsjr** · #89 01-12-2010, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by carrie721

why are you so mean, sharon???

WELCOME TO THE LEDGE.

if you do not want to have spirited debate; if you do not wish to be required to back up your claims/opinions; if you just want to talk about how awesome this/that/the other thing is without worrying that someone might have a dissenting thought, please check out seven wonders, as i hear there are few thoughts there, period, let alone dissenting ones.

dId you say dissention?

trackaghost · #90 01-12-2010, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1

I've heard Lindsey talking about them, but what I really remember is how Stevie said she was a little bit angry with them because Lindsey kept pushing the Beatles on her and she just got weary of hearing about them from him.

Michele

Now you say it I remember that too, that's pretty funny

I can imagine Lindsey being more of a fan than Stevie although she did say that she wrote Edge Of Seventeen partly inspired by John Lennon's death so she must have admired him a little at least.