Drifting vs Fast Talking Woman Blues

Wouter Vuijk · #1 05-30-2010, 07:43 PM

Hope someone can help me out here.
I really love the song Drifting aka known as Fast Talking Woman Blues. I would like to play it with one of my bands. However with another band I allready play a song called Drifting, by Louisiana Red. Thus I'd like to stick to FTWB. However, I only have the version from the Golden Circle venue, but sadly I can't figure out the lyrics there.

Can anybody help?

chriskisn · #2 05-31-2010, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Wouter Vuijk

Hope someone can help me out here.
I really love the song Drifting aka known as Fast Talking Woman Blues. I would like to play it with one of my bands. However with another band I allready play a song called Drifting, by Louisiana Red. Thus I'd like to stick to FTWB. However, I only have the version from the Golden Circle venue, but sadly I can't figure out the lyrics there.

Can anybody help?

Well the Fast Talking Woman Blues from Vaudeville Years is an instrumental which makes the lyrics easy!

The lyrics to Drifting are

I ain't never missed a woman
Anytime or anyhow
I ain't never missed a woman
Anytime or anyhow
I ain't never missed a woman
Oh, just like the way I miss my baby now

http://discog.fleetwoodmac.net/songs...13&perfid=9556

No idea if the lyrics vary on live versions though?

slipkid · #3 05-31-2010, 11:34 PM

The original opening lyric is; "I'm drifting, and drifting, like a ship out on a sea." The original has been recorded by many artists since Louisiana Red.

Peter Green's "Drifting", IMHO is the blueprint for hard rock blues music (Led Zeppelin). Peter Green discovered lightning in a bottle at least a year before Jimmy Page. The problem is "Drifting" wasn't released to the public until after Peter Green left FM. The album was called "The Original Fleetwood Mac". Thanks to the internet, I'm glad to read posts from those who realize where that "sound" really came from, who are Led Zeppelin fans.

Not to stray too far from the subject, but Mike Vernon's productions were by far the best from the English side to represent the blues that rivals Chess studios in Chicago. That drum echo you hear from Mick Fleetwood on "Drifting", is perfect.

Wouter Vuijk · #4 06-01-2010, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by slipkid

The original opening lyric is; "I'm drifting, and drifting, like a ship out on a sea." The original has been recorded by many artists since Louisiana Red.

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This "Drifting" is actually called Drifting Blues, composed by Charles Brown, Johnny Moore and Eddie Williams, and is well known being recorded by Eric Clapton:

I'm drifting and drifting, just like a ship out on the sea.
I'm drifting and drifting, just like a ship out on the sea.
Well I ain't got nobody in this world to care for me.

If my baby would only take me back again.
If my baby would only take me back again.
I would feel much better, darling, and at least I'd have a friend.

I give you all my money, tell me what more can I do.
I give you all my money, tell me what more can I do.
You is a sweet little girl but I swear you won't be true.

I'm drifting and drifting, just like a ship out on the sea.
I'm drifting and drifting, just like a ship out on the sea.
Because I ain't got nobody in this world to care for me.

Louisiana Red has a complete different "Drifting", where he sings about feeling lonely in hotel rooms while travelling as a musician. Also mentioning memories of being raised in orphan homes. Also the melody is completely different. Try getting hold on it, it's on his album "Drifting", released in 2001.

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Originally Posted by slipkid

Peter Green's "Drifting" ........ wasn't released to the public until after Peter Green left FM. The album was called "The Original Fleetwood Mac".

Gary Moore also recorded Peter Greens "Drifting" (1995), adding another verse (in italics):

I ain't never missed a woman, anytime or anyhow
Said I ain't never missed a woman, anytime or anyhow
I said, I ain't never missed nobody, just like the way I miss my baby now

If you could see my woman, you'd know why no one else can take her place
If you could see my woman, people, you'd realize why no one else can take her place
You'd know just what I'm talking 'bout, if you could see my baby's sweet, sweet face

That's why I ain't never missed a woman, anytime or any place
No, I ain't never ever missed a woman, anytime or any place
When I say I ain't never missed nobody, I mean I ain't never missed nobody like I miss my baby now, yeah

At the Golden Circle venue, however, Peter added as second verse (and I'm looking forward to answers on the question marks):

All you fast talking women, don't come hanging around my door
I said all you fast talking women, don't come hanging around my door
????????????????????????
Woman I can't ??????????????

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Originally Posted by slipkid

Peter Green's "Drifting", IMHO is the blueprint for hard rock blues music (Led Zeppelin). Peter Green discovered lightning in a bottle at least a year before Jimmy Page. .... I'm glad to read posts from those who realize where that "sound" really came from, who are Led Zeppelin fans.

IMHO "Drifting" is very, very, very far from hard rock blues. It's slow, has immense passion, and nobody puts as much emotion into it as Peter did in those days.

chriskisn · #5 06-01-2010, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Wouter Vuijk

All you fast talking women, don't come hanging around my door
I said all you fast talking women, don't come hanging around my door
????????????????????????
Woman I can't ??????????????

Having listened to this many times (and yes I mean many) my interpretation of the third line is:

"You said you know you love me"

the fourth line sounds like he says either:

Woman I can't use your powers on me anymore (and that wouldn't make any sense now would it?)

OR

Woman I can't use your ??? body anymore (and the ??? sounds like "powered" - maybe "powdered?")

doodyhead · #6 06-01-2010, 02:53 PM

You guys must have better hearing than me

Golden Circle is a fuzzy recording

I Hear

If you say that you don't love me
then I cant't use you any more

this seems to make sense in a bluesy way

I did not hear "powers" anywhere . I wish i did

that gives a supernatural bent to it

but this song seems more straight forward than that

ears of doodyhead

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Originally Posted by chriskisn

Having listened to this many times (and yes I mean many) my interpretation of the third line is:

"You said you know you love me"

the fourth line sounds like he says either:

Woman I can't use your powers on me anymore (and that wouldn't make any sense now would it?)

OR

Woman I can't use your ??? body anymore (and the ??? sounds like "powered" - maybe "powdered?")

Wouter Vuijk · #7 06-01-2010, 04:36 PM

Chris and Vinnie,

Thanks for your views

. I tended to agree with Chris at first, also being puzzled by lyrics that didn't seem to make sense. But Vinnie's interpretation does make more sense and is also acceptable as to what can be heard.
However, combining both inputs still leaves two blanks:

You say you ??? you love me
Woman, I can't use you (and your body?) anymore

chriskisn · #8 06-01-2010, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Wouter Vuijk

Chris and Vinnie,

Thanks for your views

. I tended to agree with Chris at first, also being puzzled by lyrics that didn't seem to make sense. But Vinnie's interpretation does make more sense and is also acceptable as to what can be heard.
However, combining both inputs still leaves two blanks:

You say you ??? you love me
Woman, I can't use you (and your body?) anymore

Well the reason I tend to think the third line is something like "You say you know you love me" is because he is talking about a Fast Talking Woman and telling her to not hang around his door. Why is she fast talking? Maybe she tells him she loves him and he doesn't believe it or doesn't want to hear that?

As for the fourth line, there is definitely two words between "I can't use you(r)" and "anymore".

chriskisn · #9 06-01-2010, 07:09 PM

For those playing along at home...

http://www.mediafire.com/?onmzjgcuxv2 (Line 3)

http://www.mediafire.com/?ldqhmzxgazj (Line 4)

doodyhead · #10 06-02-2010, 12:59 AM

I listened a few more times but to no definite conclusion

except possibly the last line:
Woman, I can't use your love (or Loving) anymore.

Great show from Stockholm. one of my favorites

Why was there no Jeremy on the set list?
Did he not make the show?
I seem to recall this discussion in some past thread but have no memory of why or what.

vinnie c

chriskisn · #11 06-02-2010, 05:08 AM

Arrggh...this is driving me crazy

I'm coming around to Vinnie's way of thinking, that the third line is "You said you WON'T love me". I don't think there is a D (on't) there rather a W (on't).

Then it is definitely in my opinion

Woman I can't use your ??? body anymore.

Just tell me what the damn ??? is and I'll die a happy man!

BklynBlue · #12 06-02-2010, 07:40 AM

Where's Jeremy?

I had often wondered about that myself, but over the years I have listened more closely to the tracks I have come to realize that the collection that you are referring to is actually a compilation disc -
The thirteen tracks have appeared in groups and individually in various configurations on a dizzying array of bootlegs -
Most, if not all of the tracks propably do originate from shows recorded in Scandinavia - accepting that (though, there is no way to prove it), this is my take on when the tracks were recorded:

Golden Circle 11 / 21 / 1968
Homework
Fast Talking Woman Blues
Something Inside of Me
Tell Me (Mama)
The World Keep On Turning
Albatross
No Place To Go

Konserthuset, Stockholm Sweden April / 01 / 1969
San-Ho-Zay

Spring 1969 (unknown venue)
Stop Messin' Round
Rollin' Man

Winter 1969 (unknown venue)
Talk With You
Without You
If You Let Me Love You

doodyhead · #13 06-02-2010, 09:51 AM

Thanks Rich,

I guess whomever compiled that removed stuff and apparently all of Jeremy
too bad

vinnie

Ms Moose · #14 06-02-2010, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by chriskisn

Arrggh...this is driving me crazy

I'm coming around to Vinnie's way of thinking, that the third line is "You said you WON'T love me". I don't think there is a D (on't) there rather a W (on't).

Then it is definitely in my opinion

Woman I can't use your ??? body anymore.

Just tell me what the damn ??? is and I'll die a happy man!

I have listened several times now - what a track!!! Haven't heard this one before even though I have the bootleg. Reminds me a bit of Sugar Mama the way it's delivered vocally.

Now I have almost developed tinnitus in the quest "to get this right"! To me the line sounds like: "I can't use your broken heavy heart...(for me?)". But then again I don't have super-duper equipment. Maybe PG made up the verse on the spot,wasn't sure himself and just sang mumble-jumble?

Like Doodyhead says 'the body'-thing makes sense in a blues way (even though there are usually specific metaphors for body-parts and stuff), but then again the sentiment and the emotional feeling of the song is more like "Love That Burns" ("My heart can't stand another lie" - kind of emotion)?

Ms Moose

slipkid · #15 06-03-2010, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Wouter Vuijk

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IMHO "Drifting" is very, very, very far from hard rock blues. It's slow, has immense passion, and nobody puts as much emotion into it as Peter did in those days.

I'm strictly speaking of the song's structure. A slow blues intro with a heavy 4/4 drum beat. Then comes the dynamic crescendo with the loud blues licks to emphasize that attack. Anyone who hasn't heard of Peter Green with Fleetwood Mac thinks this type of hard rock "slow blues" was created by Jimmy Page, and Led Zeppelin, or Jeff Beck.

You don't have to tell me that Peter's version of slow blues is more emotional than his peers.

Peter Green was the master of the modern electric slow blues. I'm sure Jimmy Page would admit today that "Since I've Been Loving You" had a Peter Green influence. The fact that he played "Oh Well" with the Black Crowes ten years ago is a good indicator.