It's all out in the open now...THE TRUTH

secondhandchain · #1 03-20-2019, 07:04 PM

It WAS all her. SHE DID IT and there is no defending her.

BombaySapphire3 · #2 03-20-2019, 07:58 PM

The others played their role..they had a choice to make between artistic integrity and $$$..It is no surprise really which one that they chose.

BLY · #3 03-20-2019, 08:45 PM

I still love this band and always will. I did not see this line up in concert on this tour but I would have considered it if they were promoting a new album. I would buy a new album by this lineup for sure. I will continue to support Lindsey’s solo work and pray that he recovers from his surgery. It sucks what went down but this band is the soundtrack of my life and “ I Can’t Go Back”. 😎

mitzo · #4 03-20-2019, 09:45 PM

I would not defend anyone in this matter, I just really do not care about the firing and the whudunits.

secret love · #5 03-21-2019, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by secondhandchain

It WAS all her. SHE DID IT and there is no defending her.

No defending her? Are you serious? Can you not think of a single other workplace (and a band IS a workplace/work group) where someone was fired because they didn't get along with someone else?

Can you think of one other workplace where two people who hated each other continued to work together in high pressure jobs for 43 years?

Jondalar · #6 03-21-2019, 03:40 AM

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No defending her? Are you serious? Can you not think of a single other workplace (and a band IS a workplace/work group) where someone was fired because they didn't get along with someone else?

Can you think of one other workplace where two people who hated each other continued to work together in high pressure jobs for 43 years?

She got him fired for smirking. He made her a star. He made them all stars. She slept her way through musicians and producers to get where she is at. She used people like Lindsey to get ahead. Tom Petty and Prince are dead and now she is using them to propel herself forward. She should be gracious and thankful. Instead, she acts like she is in an episode of Game of Thrones.

secret love · #7 03-21-2019, 04:46 AM

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She got him fired for smirking. He made her a star. He made them all stars. She slept her way through musicians and producers to get where she is at. She used people like Lindsey to get ahead. Tom Petty and Prince are dead and now she is using them to propel herself forward. She should be gracious and thankful. Instead, she acts like she is in an episode of Game of Thrones.

You're a cynical ol' chap.
She's honouring Tom Petty and Prince and paying her respects. Now of course I'm saying that to defend ol' goat, not because it is just common sense.

bwboy · #8 03-21-2019, 06:16 AM

Why is this in the Stevie Nicks forum? She wasn't interviewed in the Mojo article?

Feather Blade · #9 03-21-2019, 08:41 AM

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Why is this in the Stevie Nicks forum? She wasn't interviewed in the Mojo article?

Probably the same reason why the rare non positive review of the present band keeps being posted in the Rumours forum. Oh well, if they have this much time to obsess over a band line up change rather than needing to worry about kids, health issues, mortgages, aging parents, work issues etc., they must have pretty good lives.

paleshadow · #10 03-21-2019, 03:30 PM

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He made her a star. He made them all stars.

And she, in turn, made him filthy rich. But I'd argue it was her persona that appealed to so many, and he didn't have anything to do with that. She did make him far more wealthy than if she hadn't been in the band though.

secondhandchain · #11 03-23-2019, 09:19 PM

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And she, in turn, made him filthy rich. But I'd argue it was her persona that appealed to so many, and he didn't have anything to do with that. She did make him far more wealthy than if she hadn't been in the band though.

SHE made him filthy rich? ARE YOU FREAKING HIGH????? They both made each other rich. Lindsey was the architect of the classic sound and produced all the great albums PLEASE

secret love · #12 03-23-2019, 09:45 PM

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SHE made him filthy rich? ARE YOU FREAKING HIGH????? They both made each other rich. Lindsey was the architect of the classic sound and produced all the great albums PLEASE

New definition of "high" to be added to the Oxford Dictionary, effective immediately.

High: In disagreement with secondhandchain.

paleshadow · #13 03-24-2019, 10:09 AM

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SHE made him filthy rich? ARE YOU FREAKING HIGH????? They both made each other rich. Lindsey was the architect of the classic sound and produced all the great albums PLEASE

Yes, I am as high as people who suggest she owes him because he got her in the band. That's precisely my point. No one can say one would not have made it without the other, and yet people do. The argument that her success is based oh his architecture of the music kind of loses it's strength when you look at the fact that he has been his own musical architect with far less solo success than Stevie's. I do believe her popularity is what made all the members of the band more wealthy than they would have been without her. Like it or not (and I'm not saying it's deserved or fair) it is factual that most people associate Fleetwood Mac with Stevie. I don't know how you can argue against that when the band themselves believe that, and that's the only reason they went along with firing Lindsey. If she wasn't responsible for the bulk of their wealth she would never have that kind of power over any of them. It's fine to think what happened is wrong, unethical or fcked up on her part(which I do think), but to deny what I'm saying is just a reaction to not liking that it's truthful.

SteveMacD · #14 03-24-2019, 02:00 PM

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He made her a star. He made them all stars.

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The bottom line is he is the talent, they are not, but he is the one who got constantly **** on.

Lindsey is a feckless, obsessive, grandiose perfectionist. Lindsey had the fewest career releases of anyone in the classic lineup. Lindsey had the fewest top 40 singles of the classic lineup writers. Lindsey’s solo albums never cracked the top 30.

In the 21 years between the end of the “Mirage” tour and SYW, Lindsey only did three studio albums (Go Insane, TITN, and OOTC) and two tours (about 90 shows). In that same time, Stevie did seven studio albums and ten tours (over 550 shows). For further context, in the 23 years between the end of the BTM tour and OWTS, Christine did two studio albums and one tour (47 shows), and she was in some state of retirement during those years.

Maybe if Lindsey had gotten off his ass and actually did something instead of basking in the glow of his visionary genius he wouldn’t have become the easily expendable one.

secondhandchain · #15 03-24-2019, 05:54 PM

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Lindsey is a feckless, obsessive, grandiose perfectionist. Lindsey had the fewest career releases of anyone in the classic lineup. Lindsey had the fewest top 40 singles of the classic lineup writers. Lindsey’s solo albums never cracked the top 30.

In the 21 years between the end of the “Mirage” tour and SYW, Lindsey only did three studio albums (Go Insane, TITN, and OOTC) and two tours (about 90 shows). In that same time, Stevie did seven studio albums and ten tours (over 550 shows). For further context, in the 23 years between the end of the BTM tour and OWTS, Christine did two studio albums and one tour (47 shows), and she was in some state of retirement during those years.

Maybe if Lindsey had gotten off his ass and actually did something instead of basking in the glow of his visionary genius he wouldn’t have become the easily expendable one.

Funny how you forget that Lindsey had a produce all the Fleetwood Mac Albums while Steve he would come and go as she pleases.