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Old 01-05-2019, 08:12 PM
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So I know she wrote Don't Stop to John during their divorce and Songbird and You Make Loving Fun are about the lighting director. But do we know if any of the vast array of 'I love you' songs Christine has written were about being in love with John? Very curious. Also, I wish there were some pictures from their wedding. I bet Christine makes a lovely bride.
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Old 01-06-2019, 01:49 AM
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Spare Me a Little was, at least according to Mick. Early versions of this song date back to 1970, when the couple were experiencing marital bliss.

By 1973, the Mcvies were facing significant personal troubles, so I’m suspecting Dissatisfied, Believe Me, and Why are autobiographical.

I also suspect that Remember Me and Just Crazy Love are at least inspired by her affair with Martin Birch.

By 1974, Birch returned to his wife and the Mcvies were trying to give it another go. Maybe Prove Your Love was about this stage of their lives.

The original lyrics to Brown Eyes (Yesterday’s Tears) are clearly about John. But the rewrite appears to be about Dennis Wilson.
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Old 01-06-2019, 12:18 PM
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Spare Me a Little and Why stand out as the most obvious examples but Warm Ways maybe also about "giving it another go" before the S&*t hit the fan in '76. Yesterday's Tears is just amazing- too bad they didn't keep that version and I agree it's about John. Most other stuff is about moving on I think.
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Old 01-06-2019, 07:34 PM
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I may be wrong, but I think Christine has said in an interview that, while some of her songs are autobiographical, many are not and are instead written about various other people or friends of hers. I can't remember if it was Sugar Daddy or Little Lies that this was referring to.

That being said, sooooo many songs sound like they are.

Confirmed: Mick (Oh Daddy), John (Believe Me, Why, Spare Me a Little, Songbird, Don't Stop), Lindsey (Over My Head), herself (Homeward Bound), Curry Grant (You Make Loving Fun)

I would wager that her Tango songs are about Eddy Quintella and her Tusk and Mirage songs are about Dennis Wilson.
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Old 01-08-2019, 08:39 PM
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Confirmed: Mick (Oh Daddy), John (Believe Me, Why, Spare Me a Little, Songbird, Don't Stop), Lindsey (Over My Head), herself (Homeward Bound), Curry Grant (You Make Loving Fun)

"Over My Head" is about Lindsey? When did she say that?
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"Over My Head" is about Lindsey? When did she say that?
I think she said this in an interview or two after rejoining FM in 2014 but I'm not sure which particular one. Although in the 1977 Rolling Stone mag interview she says Over My Head and Say You Love Me were both written on her portable Hohner piano in the Malibu apartment she shared with John shortly after the Heroes Are Hard to Find Tour. That'd be before she'd met either Lindsey or Stevie.
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Old 01-09-2019, 08:54 AM
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Perhaps in 2014 she was confusing songs.

Why would someone welcome a new member to the band by writing a love song about him while he is in a relationship with another of your new band members? It makes so sense.
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Confirmed: Mick (Oh Daddy), John (Believe Me, Why, Spare Me a Little, Songbird, Don't Stop), Lindsey (Over My Head), herself (Homeward Bound), Curry Grant (You Make Loving Fun)
At the Making of Rumours DVD (1997) she said about Songbird: It was about nobody and everybody.
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Perhaps in 2014 she was confusing songs.

Why would someone welcome a new member to the band by writing a love song about him while he is in a relationship with another of your new band members? It makes so sense.
Agreed, I thought it was weird too, but maybe I'm misremembering there. I SWORE I read an interview where she said that, but I can't find it now so maybe I made it up in my head. It certainly makes more sense for it to have been written about John, especially if she's quoted as saying it was written earlier.
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Old 01-11-2019, 12:01 AM
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Carol Ann wrote in her book that Songbird was also about Curry Grant. I know some people consider her book sketchy but it got a lot of things right so I don't see why it should be ignored.
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I don’t think OMH or Songbird are necessarily about one person.
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Agreed, I thought it was weird too, but maybe I'm misremembering there. I SWORE I read an interview where she said that, but I can't find it now so maybe I made it up in my head. It certainly makes more sense for it to have been written about John, especially if she's quoted as saying it was written earlier.
you are remembering correctly - everybody was surprised when she said that in 2014, too. it was an audio interview, i believe. she was saying how she thought LB was extremely good looking when he and SN first came at that Mexican restaurant to "interview" for FM, and that OMH is a kind of a "what if" fantasy about gorgeous Lindsey. something like that.

the written earlier part may have been the music or the chords, and maybe she added lyrics later?
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The lyrics to "Over my head" definately sounds like they´re about John. That´s the only thing that makes sense to me. Sounds really weird to think they would be about Lindsey, that´s all...
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The lyrics to "Over my head" definately sounds like they´re about John. That´s the only thing that makes sense to me. Sounds really weird to think they would be about Lindsey, that´s all...
Wasn’t Christine just saying ....phwoa you’re gorgeous....but out of reach.

Imagining Lindsey and her, but hey that’s over my head....
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Wasn’t Christine just saying ....phwoa you’re gorgeous....but out of reach.

Imagining Lindsey and her, but hey that’s over my head....
yes, that's what she said in 2014.
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