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Old 03-15-2019, 03:06 PM
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Why is this getting weirder and weirder?
Turning on each other over Fleetwood Mac?
It doesn't involve any of us fans.
I understand people being disappointed, or upset.
But this is becoming as serious to people as a religious or political argument.
It's kind of bizarre.
Why let it affect your lives?
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Old 03-15-2019, 04:27 PM
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Why is this getting weirder and weirder?
Turning on each other over Fleetwood Mac?
It doesn't involve any of us fans.
I understand people being disappointed, or upset.
But this is becoming as serious to people as a religious or political argument.
It's kind of bizarre.
Why let it affect your lives?
Have you followed them for 40 years? If so, speak your mind. If not, not.

And to anyone who's primarily a $tevie fan, we don't expect you to get it. Go worship in the barnyard. And the Present Band Forum is where you should be, if you want to discuss the PRESENT band. Thank you, drive thru...
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Old 03-15-2019, 04:30 PM
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Christine mentioned back in 2017 interviews how they all get along great, except Lindsey and Stevie. she also mentioned how much nicer to work with Lindsey is now as opposed to back in the heyday when he was asocial and razor focused on work. so what did change? Stevie gained more power. she became very commercially successful again. that's what changed. she felt she had enough power to pull the ouster.
But then there was that article done at the end of the American leg of their "On With the Show" tour where Stevie was vocally VERY unhappy, Mick was happy to see John and Christine getting along and chumming it up, but flabbergasted by the animosity between Lindsey and Stevie. He even quoted Christine who said their holding onto old wounds should have ceased years ago.

So I'm thinking the band WERE unhappy because the Americans were acting like spoiled hateful brats. What's so sad is that the Brits decided to honor the wishes of one of those brats over the other out of pure greed.

Would I have been happy had Stevie left instead of Lindsey? Not especially but truthfully I would not have been outright disgusted. She could go one and do her thing while the remaining four made new music. That, for me, as always made the difference. Both LB and SN are insufferably self-centered in different ways but only LB is open and urging of fresh creativity and musical growth. So, I can look past his often aloof media personality.
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I think these forms are becoming a very morbidly fascinating place to visit. So interesting to see middle-aged to past middle-aged people making this entire situation this serious . Both team Lindsay and team Stevie fans take obsession to a brand new level of obsession. I've listened to this band for 40 years, but frankly, if what's going on between Lindsey Stevie the Mac is that important to anybody then they must not have any real problems. Good for you 👍.
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I think these forms are becoming a very morbidly fascinating place to visit. So interesting to see middle-aged to past middle-aged people making this entire situation this serious . Both team Lindsay and team Stevie fans take obsession to a brand new level of obsession. I've listened to this band for 40 years, but frankly, if what's going on between Lindsey Stevie the Mac is that important to anybody then they must not have any real problems. Good for you 👍.
Hey, check it out, everybody! Mr. Too Cool For School is back!
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Of course I'm back. I would never completely walk away from a fascinating car wreck. All of this is very entertaining.
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I'm not a primary fan of Lindsey Stevie or the mack. I like it all. but both teams like I said before you need to get a life it's not that important
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Maybe we should build a shrine!!!!
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But then there was that article done at the end of the American leg of their "On With the Show" tour where Stevie was vocally VERY unhappy, Mick was happy to see John and Christine getting along and chumming it up, but flabbergasted by the animosity between Lindsey and Stevie. He even quoted Christine who said their holding onto old wounds should have ceased years ago.

So I'm thinking the band WERE unhappy because the Americans were acting like spoiled hateful brats. What's so sad is that the Brits decided to honor the wishes of one of those brats over the other out of pure greed.

Would I have been happy had Stevie left instead of Lindsey? Not especially but truthfully I would not have been outright disgusted. She could go one and do her thing while the remaining four made new music. That, for me, as always made the difference. Both LB and SN are insufferably self-centered in different ways but only LB is open and urging of fresh creativity and musical growth. So, I can look past his often aloof media personality.
Same. I wouldn't be happy if Stevie left because I want all of them in the band, but creatively she's doing way less than Lindsey. And she has her magnificent solo career, so rich and full of packed arenas. I certainly wouldn't miss her at all.
But of course Brits had to think with their bank accounts instead of with their hearts and minds. And talents.
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Old 03-15-2019, 05:25 PM
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Why is this getting weirder and weirder?
Turning on each other over Fleetwood Mac?
It doesn't involve any of us fans.
I understand people being disappointed, or upset.
But this is becoming as serious to people as a religious or political argument.
It's kind of bizarre.
Why let it affect your lives?
And you need to talk about the Mac rather than reflecting on the psychological needs of other posters and wondering why they don't get a life. If the obsession here is getting to you, skip the thread.
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Same. I wouldn't be happy if Stevie left because I want all of them in the band, but creatively she's doing way less than Lindsey. And she has her magnificent solo career, so rich and full of packed arenas. I certainly wouldn't miss her at all.
But of course Brits had to think with their bank accounts instead of with their hearts and minds. And talents.
Same here, I would miss Stevie, as I miss Lindsey.
I’m not a huge Stevie solo fan...so that aspect wouldn’t interest me.

But, the Brits I don’t really understand.
Mick we know is permanently broke so he goes where the money is, enough said.
John and Christine, I think must be so loyal to the brand Fleetwood Mac and more important to Mick. They took the decision to remain with Mick.
Bank accounts came into it but it’s more...we owe Mick our loyalty.

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Same here, I would miss Stevie, as I miss Lindsey.
Iím not a huge Stevie solo fan...so that aspect wouldnít interest me.

But, the Brits I donít really understand.
Mick we know is permanently broke so he goes where the money is, enough said.
John and Christine, I think must be so loyal to the brand Fleetwood Mac and more important to Mick. They took the decision to remain with Mick.
Bank accounts came into it but itís more...we owe Mick our loyalty.
So that album and tour with Lindsey was chopped liver?

She or John could have saved the day, yet they did nothing. They suck!
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So that album and tour with Lindsey was chopped liver?

She or John could have saved the day, yet they did nothing. They suck!
I know they suck, but Iím just trying to put reasoning behind their decision.....ie why ???
As to the Album and Tour, errrr, no idea, other than sheís a musician and enjoyed making music with Lindsey.
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I know they suck, but Iím just trying to put reasoning behind their decision.....ie why ???
As to the Album and Tour, errrr, no idea, other than sheís a musician and enjoyed making music with Lindsey.
I think they just went with the money.

I'm sure $tevie had Irving's full support(even though the scumbag was Lindsey's manager as well), so when the most powerful manager in the history of music is trying to sell you on it, I guess you go along...?

Loyalty means nothing to any of them.
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I think they just went with the money.

I'm sure $tevie had Irving's full support(even though the scumbag was Lindsey's manager as well), so when the most powerful manager in the history of music is trying to sell you on it, I guess you go along...?

Loyalty means nothing to any of them.
This is about as true as your post from a while back saying most of Stevie Nicks's songs are sang in the key of F. In fact, they are not always in the same key, and the common keys she sings in are C major (Dreams), A minor (Rhiannon) and B flat major (Secret Love, Landslide) and B flat minor (Thrown Down).
Not only are you musically illiterate, thinking that the note a song starts on in the melody line is the key of the song eg Rhiannon, you are also full of BS on the band's politics.
They stayed together through thick and thin for 43 years, so show some respect for that, Homer.
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