Tango vocals

[petep9000]

Some of us liked Rock a Little-era vocals, both recorded and on that hairy tour. It's what came afterwards (OSOTM and BTM) that makes me shudder.

[StevieandChris]

Originally Posted by petep9000

Some of us liked Rock a Little-era vocals, both recorded and on that hairy tour. It's what came afterwards (OSOTM and BTM) that makes me shudder.

Do people who do not enjoy TOSOTM truly not like Rooms On Fire, Long Way to Go, Ooh My Love, Ghosts, Alice, Juliet, and Doing the Best I Can????

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by StevieandChris

Do people who do not enjoy TOSOTM truly not like Rooms On Fire, Long Way to Go, Ooh My Love, Ghosts, Alice, Juliet, and Doing the Best I Can????

I've been nearly stoned by some around here. But I love that album. All those songs are great. I liked the direction of this album.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

I've been nearly stoned by some around here. But I love that album. All those songs are great. I liked the direction of this album.

Have rocks, will travel. And I know where ya live!!

And what "direction" was it traveling? Sewerward?

Cuz it's a turd. Just callin' a turd, a turd. Because it's a turd.

[iamnotafraid]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

But I love that album. All those songs are great...

Just when you think you know someone.

I like a few of the songs from that album.
But I don't like the way they recorded her
voice.

Here was me back then. I visit my local
Record Bar. When I walk in the manager
starts playing Ms. Nicks. I proceed to buy
the vinyl, CD and cassette of the release.

That's the way it was for this Nicks' fan.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by iamnotafraid

Just when you think you know someone.

I like a few of the songs from that album.
But I don't like the way they recorded her
voice.

Here was me back then. I visit my local
Record Bar. When I walk in the manager
starts playing Ms. Nicks. I proceed to buy
the vinyl, CD and cassette of the release.

That's the way it was for this Nicks' fan.

I had posters of her on the wall too. She was so cool to follow back then.

[iamnotafraid]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

I had posters of her on the wall too. She was so cool to follow back then.

I still have the HBO poster up.
Forever cool I guess.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by iamnotafraid

I still have the HBO poster up.
Forever cool I guess.

There was a mystical quality to FMac. And Bella Donna and Wild Heart extended that quality.

[petep9000]

Originally Posted by StevieandChris

Do people who do not enjoy TOSOTM truly not like Rooms On Fire, Long Way to Go, Ooh My Love, Ghosts, Alice, Juliet, and Doing the Best I Can????

Truly, yeah. This is just my opinion, it couldn't possibly be less of a favorite album for me. I just hate it. But other people love it, so what do I know?

You can't compare it to Rock a Little though, 'Mirror' had no rock to it at all. It was a synthy candy castle with Kenny G, zzzzzz.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by petep9000

Truly, yeah. This is just my opinion, it couldn't possibly be less of a favorite album for me. I just hate it. But other people love it, so what do I know?

You can't compare it to Rock a Little though, 'Mirror' had no rock to it at all. It was a synthy candy castle with Kenny G, zzzzzz.

Just wow. This board is amazing in that you learn every day how wonderfully different all of us humans are. We can listen to the same thing and have opposite opinions. To say that RAL had any "rock" is a joke. It is pure pre-programmed synth pop of the worst kind. Its drum machines rolling with programmed bass, etc. Rock stations kept Stevie nicks in heavy rotation with Bella Donna and Wild Heart even with the disco Stand Back. But RAL was just too much and many rock stations never really played very much from RAL. OSOTM is a back to roots Stevie Nicks. I just don't get if anyone is a Stevie fan how they could not like the album. Unlike RAL, Stevie wrote almost ALL of the songs. But more important the songs are autobiographical and some of her best writings. Probably her biggest rocker Long Way To Go is so good. Nothing similar on RAL at all. Real drums, real bass, real guitar, and a perfect song about scorned love and intense drug addiction and merged together the way only Stevie can.
When I drove home from the mall with my new cassette of OSOTM, all I kept thinking was WELCOME BACK STEVIE. Her voice was strong. Her writing was brilliant again and goodbye to empty pop songs and drum machines!!!!!!! OSOTM also has REAL piano something RAL never had (except for HAWAFY).
Stevie can be cryptic, scornful, and very honest in her writings. I never could get into the Stevie who is working the crisis hotline asking politely for someone to talk to her so she can cheer them up. That was not the Stevie that I knew. I mean really? You can break dance to Sister Honey. RAL was a totally different artist than Stevie Nicks. I do understand there are those who love this but to me it was just so annoying to see an artist so out of control that songs had to be brought in with 5 different producers to record songs that are written by B list song writers. I love the autobiographical Stevie because I somehow spiritually relate to her songs. And that my friend is why RAL is the only record from my Nicks/Mac/McVie collection that I never upgraded to CD. About 10 years ago, I was in a thrift store and I saw the RAL cassette for $1. I still had a stereo with a cassette player HA HA . I actually debated if I should buy it but passed.
Having said all that.... are there bad songs on OSOTM? Yes of course but there are far more many of them on RAL. Are there good songs on RAL? Yes but its frustrating because songs like I Cant Wait, I Sing for things, The Nightmare, and No Spoken word had huge potential but got lost in mid 80s synth pop. However there is no comparison in album quality IMHO. No comparison at all. While OSTOM is a good album its far from bad. Not only do I think RAL is Stevie's worst album but probably one of the worst albums of the entire 80s decade. In some ways I suppose RAL is like Red Rocks. Its so bad, its good?

[petep9000]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

I just don't get if anyone is a Stevie fan how they could not like the album.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: there's no right or wrong way to be a Stevie Nicks fan. Which is the last thing I said before Mike Bise defriended and blocked me (lol) but it's true. There's NOTHING wrong with someone not liking OSOTM and thinking the whole production is a tacky syrupy mess. That doesn't mean I don't like the rest of her work. I'm the biggest Street Angel defender there is, try being in the minority that supports THAT album lol.

[TheWildHeart67]

I just don't get if anyone is a Stevie fan how they could not like the album.

I personally like TOSOTM, sans a couple songs.
But not everybody likes the same things. There isn't a right or wrong way to be a fan of any artist

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by petep9000

I've said it before and I'll say it again: there's no right or wrong way to be a Stevie Nicks fan. Which is the last thing I said before Mike Bise defriended and blocked me (lol) but it's true. There's NOTHING wrong with someone not liking OSOTM and thinking the whole production is a tacky syrupy mess. That doesn't mean I don't like the rest of her work. I'm the biggest Street Angel defender there is, try being in the minority that supports THAT album lol.

You took my statement too literal. I mean this album has the consensus of what most people like about Stevie. The songs personally written about scorned love affairs and autobiographical tales about her life vague and direct at times, her raspy but solid voice.
IMHO, OSOTM has it all almost Bella Donna like in those regards. I.E. meaning her writing is so good on the album and the songs are about her life... something that got left out on the previous album. IMHO the album is full of class and probably her most revealing album about her life ever. Long Way To Go and Escape from Berlin are probably her most direct to the point songs ever. She does not beat around the bush. Songs like Ghosts are pure Stevie telling the world how her music is her husband and that she lives in the past too much. The album is an open book into her life. I think its amazing. In some weird way I think the klonopin let her reveal too much and say things she may not have told the world before. Its also her last good writings before klonopin turned out the lights.
So that is why I don't understand the hate many have for the album. Some only look at pop chart success... I get that. But the depth of her songs on this album hit home for me. Are there songs I don't like on the album... YES! Cry Wolf and Still Miss Someone are duds IMHO. Can you imagine if Running Through the Garden or another one her her classics were added instead? So I am talking about the context of what most of Stevie fans like about her... the magic, the voice, the brilliant writing. I think the album has it all. To quote Stevie... she was on a very creative roll when writing the album. I also love Street Angel too. I get the feeling that some don't like it because of the lack of commercial success. I never judge an album that way.
To give an analogy. Its like someone saying.. I LOVE Fleetwood Mac but I hate the white album. That's cool and fine but isn't the white album classic Fleetwood Mac? And of course there are Mac fans out there that don't care for the white album which is fine. But the album has such a traditional Mac sound and characteristic of the band, I just would find it confusing. But of course that is what makes us fans so special. We all like different things. And that is a GOOD thing!
I like the music too. Anytime Rick Marotta drums, its going to be a good song! I would have loved to have seen the Heartbreakers play as a group on the album instead of just a few on Whole Lotta Trouble. I also would rearrange some of the tracking. Stevie must have been very proud of the album doing a record 5 new songs on the tour: Rooms on Fire, Alice, Juliet, Whole Lotta Trouble, Two Kinds of Love. Its weird because I understand Stevie when she says this was her magical album. I feel the magic and that is strange to say. I like some of her albums better but there is little magic there like on OSOTM. Some spell she sent on this album captured me

[HomerMcvie]

Good lort, please don't mention Bella Donna and osotm in the same sentence. Heaven and hell. Perfection vs outhouse!

[TheWildHeart67]

I thought similar to others re: Family Man -- that "am what i am, what i am, what i am" descension -- definitely Lindsey doing some "Stevie twisting" on his own vocals, and he did it in a 'cards on the table' way - showed the listener how it's his voice at first and then it gets gradually altered

I think it is Stevie's voice in the "Am what I am" part in "Family Man." You can especially hear that it's her when listening to the dance remix version of the song.