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Old 09-24-2019, 08:41 AM
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But there's a difference between owning a recording and owning the song, isn't there? Mick wouldn't give Stevie the recording of SS, but nothing could've stopped her from recording another version if she wanted to.
I think that's right, those are 2 different kind of rights. For example, in the Yesterday movie, actors were performing the songs in the film and not the Beatles themselves, so that made licensing the Beatles' music catalog relatively straightforward, or so I read. Director Danny Boyle said in interviews that the film was "blessed" by McCartney and Starr, as well as the estates of Lennon and Harrison.
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For a movie, even if you aren’t using the original recording and re-record, you still need permission.

Stevie could re-record SS without Fleetwood Mac’s permission and sell just the audio, but she couldn’t put it in a movie without the copyright owner’s permission. FM could put it in a movie without her permission and she’d get royalties as the writer. Of course, I recognize that she is part of Fleetwood Mac, so obviously she’s going to be involved in the decision. But there was a time when that was not the case.

What you CAN do without permission is audio and a live performance (but you can’t sell a dvd of that live performance without permission) like a concert. For that, you just pay ASCAP, BMI, etc and that gives you a blanket right to use it.
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For a movie, even if you aren’t using the original recording and re-record, you still need permission.

Stevie could re-record SS without Fleetwood Mac’s permission and sell just the audio, but she couldn’t put it in a movie without the copyright owner’s permission. FM could put it in a movie without her permission and she’d get royalties as the writer. Of course, I recognize that she is part of Fleetwood Mac, so obviously she’s going to be involved in the decision. But there was a time when that was not the case.

What you CAN do without permission is audio and a live performance (but you can’t sell a dvd of that live performance without permission) like a concert. For that, you just pay ASCAP, BMI, etc and that gives you a blanket right to use it.
$he can do whatever $he wants now, and you know it! Because I'm not the bo$$ of this band.
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Old 12-16-2019, 09:38 PM
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Black List 2019: Films on Fleetwood Mac, Barron Trump, Nicolas Cage Among List of Best Unproduced Scripts

66 screenplays make up 15th edition of annual list
Brian Welk | December 16, 2019 @ 12:14 PM Last Updated: December 16, 2019 @ 12:59 PM
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The 2019 edition of the annual Black List was unveiled by founder Franklin Leonard on Monday, and films about the band Fleetwood Mac, President Trump’s son Barron Trump and a meta-movie about Nicolas Cage are among the best, unproduced screenplays circling the industry.

The 15th edition of the Black List featured 66 different scripts, some of which already have financiers, while others are still seeking backing.

Among some of the notable titles is “Barron: A Tale of Love, Loss and Legacy,” a script by Nicolas Curcio that follows Barron Trump at age 10 ahead of the 2016 election as he attempts to sabotage his father’s 2016 presidential campaign after he fears what becoming part of the first family would have on his personal life.

“Rumours” is a musical biopic about the life of Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham as the two friends and lovers join Fleetwood Mac and are thrown into a world of fame, drug addiction and potentially the disintegration of their relationship after writing one of the best selling albums of all time. Tyler Austin and Patrick Eme wrote the script.

There’s also “The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent,” which is a meta-movie about actor Nicolas Cage as he decides to make an appearance at the birthday party of a Mexican billionaire and head of a drug cartel as he tries to get out of a spiral of debt. Interestingly enough however, the film piqued the interest of Cage himself, who will star in the film that is already being backed by Lionsgate. Kevin Etten and Tom Gormican wrote the script.

Topping the list with 29 mentions among the Hollywood executives who voted on the list is “Move On” by writer Ken Kobayashi. The film is a sci-fi about a man who thinks he’s the only one left alive after all of humanity has been frozen in time, only to discover that someone else still alive is his ex-girlfriend, with whom he must go on a journey to figure out the cause of the freeze. Sony is already financing the film from producer Olive Bridge.

The Black List is not a list of the “best” screenplays but the most “liked” screenplays. Founder Franklin Leonard compiles a survey of 250 film executives who each contribute a list of their 10 favorites that circulated in 2019 and have not yet begun principal photography, though some of the films already have financial support and other backing. A film must have had at least six mentions from film executives before it could be considered for the list.

This year, 29% of the scripts are written by at least one woman, and 58% of the films could be described as “female-driven,” according to a graph shared on Twitter by The Black List. The group adds that on average over the last four years, approximately 26% have been written by women.

Some movies that have appeared on The Black List in past years include this year’s “A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood,” “Jojo Rabbit and “Booksmart.”

Since the launch of the first Black List in 2005, more than 440 scripts have been produced, grossing over $28 billion in box office worldwide. Black List movies have won 53 Academy Awards from 262 nominations, including four of the last twelve Best Picture Oscars and ten of the last twenty-four Best Screenplay Oscars.

View the full list of scripts here.
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Old 12-17-2019, 10:12 AM
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Black List 2019: Films on Fleetwood Mac, Barron Trump, Nicolas Cage Among List of Best Unproduced Scripts

66 screenplays make up 15th edition of annual list
Brian Welk | December 16, 2019 @ 12:14 PM Last Updated: December 16, 2019 @ 12:59 PM
The Black List
Full list of scripts and who is behind them here:
https://files.blcklst.com/files/2019...4srxeygcykdmGY
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call me cynical, but I don't hold much hope for any movies about the band or Buckingham Nicks. I expect too much focus on the salacious aspects like drug use and yelling at each other rather than a real look at the fundamental dynamics of that relationship, which is the far more interesting part.
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I expect too much focus on the salacious aspects like drug use and yelling at each other
If it happens at all, that’s what we’ll see. There’s nowhere else for a biopic to go but in the direction of mass-market reduction and sensationalism and extreme ellipsis. And those are the same qualities that the band members and their circle have repeated since talking about the band became its own industry. Things that we’ve been despairing over for years—the way harmless or inconsequential conversations or events have been blown up into deathless fables, covered by a crust of misinterpretation and misstatement—will be the essence of any such movie. Of course we’ll all watch, but it’ll be aggravating.

Remember that TV dramatization a few years ago and how painfully bad it was?
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If it happens at all, that’s what we’ll see. There’s nowhere else for a biopic to go but in the direction of mass-market reduction and sensationalism and extreme ellipsis. And those are the same qualities that the band members and their circle have repeated since talking about the band became its own industry. Things that we’ve been despairing over for years—the way harmless or inconsequential conversations or events have been blown up into deathless fables, covered by a crust of misinterpretation and misstatement—will be the essence of any such movie. Of course we’ll all watch, but it’ll be aggravating.

Remember that TV dramatization a few years ago and how painfully bad it was?
and wasn't that while Lindsey was still a full-rights member of the band? imagine now!
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I honestly don't see the point in a Fleetwood Mac or a Buckingham Nicks movie. What's there to know? That Stevie hates Lindsey since forever?

Really, it will be all a bunch of lies to bury Lindsey even more.
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I honestly don't see the point in a Fleetwood Mac or a Buckingham Nicks movie. What's there to know? That Stevie hates Lindsey since forever?

Really, it will be all a bunch of lies to bury Lindsey even more.
That old hag $tevie will see to it that he comes across as ugly as possible. And the old hag will come across as being an angel.

I hope it never happens.
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Rosanne could play Stevie if she wore a wig of blonde hair. She's got the voice for it.
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Omfg, Roseanne would be perfect as $tevie!

I think she bears an uncanny resemblance to $tevie as well!
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Omfg, Roseanne would be perfect as $tevie!

I think she bears an uncanny resemblance to $tevie as well!
From like the Dance years, to present. The voice with a wig of long blonde hair she'd be perfect.
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