50 years: Don't Stop

[TheWildHeart67]

Button, kindness is a much better than constantly belittling others, calling them names and constantly being sarcastic.
I am not sure why you and Homer enjoy being so nasty to others.
But if it makes you feel any better, by all means please continue.

[ViscountViktor]

[QUOTE=BLY;1247557]

Originally Posted by button-lip

Lindsey's Solo Anthology has two new songs and one BuckVie song. Those three songs could have been part of this compilation if Stevie had said 'yes' to a new FM album when Lindsey tried to convince her to record new material that ultimately ended up being the BuckVie album. But because she said 'no'...

In My World, Feel About You and Red Sun could have been big hits for the MAC if it was promoted as Fleetwood Mac and Stevie was prominent on the tracks. Those songs would have been a nice addition to this compilation.

Having BuckVie as a final Mac album followed by a final tour would've been a perfect ending.

You can hear where Stevie's voice slots in to those songs.

She is responsible for the band petering out like this. Why couldn't she have just agreed to an album.

[button-lip]

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Originally Posted by BLY

Having BuckVie as a final Mac album followed by a final tour would've been a perfect ending.

You can hear where Stevie's voice slots in to those songs.

She is responsible for the band petering out like this. Why couldn't she have just agreed to an album.

Yes, that's what many of us think. BuckVie would've been the perfect ending for the band's legacy. God knows Lindsey have been trying for years to convince her. But of course she had to play the victim card (pretty much like her fans) and say 'no' and blame Lindsey. Because everything is Lindsey's fault. Always. Well, now she has to find someone else to blame for her own faults.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by button-lip

Because everything is Lindsey's fault. Always.

Why does it have to be a matter of blame? She’s made enough albums with him to knows she doesn’t like the experience of working with him, they push each other’s buttons, and she generally doesn’t like the way he produces her songs. She’s not a fan of his creative vision. They’ve diverged too far from one another to be compatible, musically. They just did three years of Fleetwood Mac. She needed her break.

Well, now she has to find someone else to blame for her own faults.

The reality is that she’s about to be the first woman inducted into Hall of Fame twice. I don’t think she sees faults in her career choices at this point. And, there are enough parts in the machine that I’m sure she’ll be able to find someone to throw under the bus.

[BLY]

[QUOTE=button-lip;1247579]

Originally Posted by ViscountViktor

Yes, that's what many of us think. BuckVie would've been the perfect ending for the band's legacy. God knows Lindsey have been trying for years to convince her. But of course she had to play the victim card (pretty much like her fans) and say 'no' and blame Lindsey. Because everything is Lindsey's fault. Always. Well, now she has to find someone else to blame for her own faults.

.....and I can still hear you saying...you will never break the chain.....😎

[elle]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Why does it have to be a matter of blame?

that's exactly the thing - it doesn't and it shouldn't!

yet somehow Stevie seemed to have been blaming Lindsey for this or that over the years, and it culminated with that CBS April interview where she was passive-aggressively blaming him for not wanting to tour (lie as it turned out), standing in the way of her happiness, plus both her and Mick have been blaming him in all kinds of interviews how he's the one standing in the way of playing nothing but hits (again lie - both Mick and Stevie were clear as late as in 2013 promotional interviews that it's the 2 of them who are afraid audience will walk out if they play anything but hits).

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

]She’s made enough albums with him to knows she doesn’t like the experience of working with him, they push each other’s buttons, and she generally doesn’t like the way he produces her songs. She’s not a fan of his creative vision. They’ve diverged too far from one another to be compatible, musically.

see this part is something that should be enough - no blame and hate throwing, no need for personal attacks. it's fair to have a different musical vision and nor wanting to work together.

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

[They just did three years of Fleetwood Mac. She needed her break.

oh hey Karen! they just had 3 years break! 3 years of FM touring were 2013-2015. she insisted that FM needed to go on the road NOW, not that they needed a break. nice try!

[TheWildHeart67]

This band has been known as a musical soap opera.
It's interesting how some of the hard core fans are invested in the soap opera elements, to the point of taking it out on each other online.
The way I see it, is I am greatful I got to experience the music when it was new, and see over 36 live show's over the years.
The band and their solo projects are the theme songs of my life and will continue to be so.
But I am not picking sides or disliking others if we don't share the same views.
Is it disappointing? Yes.
But I can't bring myself to hate other people over the break up of a rock band.
The world has sooooo much hate and people fighting as it is.
Life can be so hard and none of us knows the back stories of each other that brought us to the point of who we are today.
I still can find plenty of escape and happiness by listening to this music.
I respect everyone for their opinions on here.
But I don't understand why it's gotten to the point of members of this board tearing up each other.
I apologise for anything I have said to contribute to the negativity on here.
I don't like the feeling after fighting with anybody.
Life goes by so fast.
Taking it out on each other over a band??
It's not worth it

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by elle

oh hey Karen! they just had 3 years break! 3 years of FM touring were 2013-2015. she insisted that FM needed to go on the road NOW, not that they needed a break. nice try!

I was talking about why she didn’t want to record or tour with them 2016-17. Which was obvious in the context of what I was saying.

But, hey, let’s just get into more juvenile, junior high level name calling.

[elle]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

I was talking about why she didn’t want to record or tour with them 2016-17. Which was obvious in the context of what I was saying.

But, hey, let’s just get into more juvenile, junior high level name calling.

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Stevie refused to work on FM album in 2009, 2010, 2012, and 2014. so singling out 2016 and especially 2017 makes no sense. in 2016 FM gave her the last chance. they waited for her. finally in the fall she said her final NO and taunted them to just try and go ahead, saying she sees no point why they would want to release it.

2017 there was nothing to do anymore. the album was finished in 2016.

[button-lip]

Originally Posted by elle

that's exactly the thing - it doesn't and it shouldn't!

yet somehow Stevie seemed to have been blaming Lindsey for this or that over the years, and it culminated with that CBS April interview where she was passive-aggressively blaming him for not wanting to tour (lie as it turned out), standing in the way of her happiness, plus both her and Mick have been blaming him in all kinds of interviews how he's the one standing in the way of playing nothing but hits (again lie - both Mick and Stevie were clear as late as in 2013 promotional interviews that it's the 2 of them who are afraid audience will walk out if they play anything but hits).

Lindsey told me in the Concord M&G that he found out "they have been lying to him since last year", which means 2017. I didn't want to ask him more about it because I knew I didn't have enough time so I let him do all the talk but it was a weird comment. Makes me wonder what other things he found out about his ex family.

Originally Posted by elle

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Oh, yes, indeed. You can't do anything else but laugh with comments like: "I respect everybody's opinions" from the same people that attacks you for no other reason than the fact they dislike you.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by button-lip

Lindsey told me in the Concord M&G that he found out "they have been lying to him since last year", which means 2017.

I really think cbBen was onto something about the actual decision to oust Lindsey came long before MusiCares.

Stevie and Mick might be telling the truth. They might have actually decided to oust Lindsey after he asked for the delay, which he admits to having asked for. The decision was already made when he gave up on that request.

[elle]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

the actual decision to oust Lindsey came long before MusiCares.

Stevie and Mick might be telling the truth.

yes. as "we will see you in court!" and "majority rules!" was telling the truth, too.

the actual decision to oust LB was definitely in the fall 2017, as his RS interview and lawsuit details.

once BuckVie album was out, that was it for Nicks. i guess the rest of the 2017 was Mick wrangling promoters and managers to figure out how to pull it (you know that didn't happen in 2 days between Musicares and Azoff phone call!). if Mick REALLY cared about FM as opposed to just money in his pocket, he should have been working on making sure band members reconcile vs letting some of them act like spoiled senile people. Mick didn't keep FM together, or cared about its artistic legacy, for decades now. he made sure to run it into the ground, over and over again, for a quick buck.

they just held up through Musicares to stage some kind of "now you've done it" bs.

remember, a lot of this info came from Mike Campbell / Heartbreakers camp as well as people talking to Mick, among other sources. LB's lawsuit just confirmed most of what we knew already.

[elle]

Originally Posted by button-lip

Oh, yes, indeed. You can't do anything else but laugh with comments like: "I respect everybody's opinions" from the same people that attacks you for no other reason than the fact they dislike you.

yup. it's amusing to read constant lecturing and name calling to / about other posters on this board from people who claim they just want peace and respect and to discuss the band and its members.

as you said, if someone is annoyed with your posts, there's always blocking option.

#mirror

[lovethemac1]

Originally Posted by elle

yup. it's amusing to read constant lecturing and name calling to / about other posters on this board from people who claim they just want peace and respect and to discuss the band and its members.

as you said, if someone is annoyed with your posts, there's always blocking option.

#mirror

Agree, and don't forget some constantly telling members to "just get over it."

I won't get over it, and when I do, it will be on my timeline, not someone who has no inkling or empathy as to the way I feel.

And if I don't get over it, that's for me to deal with, not someone else to belittle anothers feelings.....whatever those feelings may be.

So, 9 months later......I still despise Stevie and Mick.....they broke the version of the band that I loved.

[button-lip]

Originally Posted by elle

yes. as "we will see you in court!" and "majority rules!" was telling the truth, too.

the actual decision to oust LB was definitely in the fall 2017, as his RS interview and lawsuit details.

once BuckVie album was out, that was it for Nicks. i guess the rest of the 2017 was Mick wrangling promoters and managers to figure out how to pull it (you know that didn't happen in 2 days between Musicares and Azoff phone call!). if Mick REALLY cared about FM as opposed to just money in his pocket, he should have been working on making sure band members reconcile vs letting some of them act like spoiled senile people. Mick didn't keep FM together, or cared about its artistic legacy, for decades now. he made sure to run it into the ground, over and over again, for a quick buck.

they just held up through Musicares to stage some kind of "now you've done it" bs.

remember, a lot of this info came from Mike Campbell / Heartbreakers camp as well as people talking to Mick, among other sources. LB's lawsuit just confirmed most of what we knew already.

THIS is exactly what irks me the most. He didn't even try to fix things up. It was always what Stevie wanted. Period. And after doing exactly what she wanted, they both started plotting against Lindsey. Not a word to him. Not a warning about what was about to come. Nothing. All smiles, all praises, all hugs. And then, the stabbing in the back.


So low…. I'm amazed at how well he's coping.

And the more I think about it, the more I'm convinced he shouldn't be back. It would be fake, pointless and hurtful for fans like me.