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Its all water under the bridge now but the puffery on those Jim Ladd interviews is funny. But what do you expect? Honesty? No. Everyone just gets along and everything is done on purpose and everything is wonderful The logic is not there for Iovine to make up a lie how much Tom was pissed at him.
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Interesting, the notion that Stop Draggin' killed a Petty/Heartbreakers single. The song in question is "She's a Woman in Love". It was single #2 from their 1981 album Hard Promises, after "The Waiting (is the Hardest Part) reached Top 20 a few months before. She's a Woman in Love was not a bad song but it's kind of downcast and moody, not nearly as rock-radio friendly as the band's bigger hits like Don't Do Me Like That, Refugee and Don't Come Around Here No More. I doubt it would have reached the Top 40 even if SDMHA hadn't existed.
It's too bad Jimmy and Tom/Heartbreakers didn't decide go for it and release "The Insider" right alongside SDMHA and make an even bigger splash out of the duet thing. Double albums come along all the time, why not a double single? Insider is such a gorgeous song, it was much stronger than "She's a Woman in Love" and there would have been room for two Petty/Nicks songs to do really well on the charts. Last edited by BlueLantern; 07-05-2017 at 12:38 PM.. |
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OMG. All this **** about Stevie being a "slut"..."homewrecker"...."cheater" is totally out of line. Who are any of us to judge her or anyone for that matter? Except of course someone who molests a child, murders someone etc etc.
We don't know what goes on behind closed doors in any marriage/relationship. It takes two to tango so "homewrecker" Stevie or anyone for that matter should not be judged. This is just my opinion. Sure I get pissed at Stevie. I'm pissed that she didn't want to record with Fleetwood Mac. I feel she needs to change her hairstyle. What she does in her personal life is not for me to comment on or pass judgement. |
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Btw, JIovine was a fool then and he still is |
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calling one of the biggest female rock stars of all time a slut for being promiscuous in her younger days is a double standard.She played and won at a man's game so she should have also been able to enjoy the same spoils as the boys did.
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But back on topic, much thanks to the original poster for summarizing the interview. Does anyone have a transcript or video clip of the part(s) about Stevie? The YouTube link someone posted earlier was removed for copyright infringement.
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This reply not about Howard Stern, but about Jimmy Iovine: Stevie will have a spot on HBO's 'The Defiant Ones': Dr. Dre and Jimmie Iovine's Wild Adventure.
http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/featu...enture-w491039 "Hughes also unearthed footage even his subjects hadn't seen: Iovine arguing with Stevie Nicks during the making of Nicks' Bella Donna . . . Hughes was also able to get both men to open up on camera, Iovine spoke about his secretive romance with Nicks, which caused friction between him and Tom Petty, another act he was producing at the time. ("It was awkward," Iovine says.")" Should be interesting. |
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Unfortunately, particularly in this time where the line between the private and the public is progressively blurring, people feel entitled to criticize the life of people that they really don't know, even holding over someone else's head mistakes from a very far and different era of their life, when they were totally different people from the present, but the fact is that those who judge tell more about themselves than what they tell about the other person. The inclination to judge others implies a deep insecurity alongside a false sense of superiority. As written in one of my favourite books, "It is far more difficult to judge oneself than to judge others". Noone is above making mistakes. Every one of us will make a lot of mistakes during life, most of them will be small but some will be serious; these last ones are much easier to commit than we'd like to think, and it's often very unlikely that if we were put in the same circumstances of the people we judge, we wouldn't commit the same mistake. We should always put ourselves in the shoes of the person we're judging, and remember that the only one with whom we have to justify ourselves to are those that have been hurt by our mistakes and no others. |
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Considering the fact that Stevie is very open about these things, talks about her personal life and affairs in relation to her songs and life in general, tells stories, casually makes random unneeded comments about things like that in interviews etc etc, I don't see an issue with it. If she was private about it and we just found out, then I'd agree we should keep our mouths shut. But she's not private at all and never has been and if she wants all of that dirty laundry open then she should be open to criticism too. And I don't think things like that count as "mistakes". Mistakes are forgetting to show up to work or being lazy or saying a bad thing to someone in the heat of an argument. But to each their own I guess. |
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We as human change constantly and it may seem strange but it will come a time when even the worst mistakes we've made won't matter much anymore, everyone touched by them will have turned the page and at that point our past don't define us anymore. If someone chooses at some point to share their story to the world it doesn't change anything. I don't think it's realistic nor right to think that people should "keep their mouths shut", after all we all freely give our opinions and receive other's opinions constantly, but we should also reflect on it and substitute judgement with objective criticism, because we never know what that person we are judging has experienced, what made them do what they've done and become what they are. The very definition of a mistake in the moral sense is "Regrettable action" and like everything else in life it's not black or white but it's a progression that starts from small accidents like the ones you listed (although I wouldn't classify laziness as a mistake) to much more severe things that to some may seem unforgivable, and in this case indeed as you said "to each their own". During our life, everything that happens to us changes the way we see things and what we considered right or wrong last year may not still be the same now, so we should be careful on believing our own opinions are universally valid for everyone. |
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