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Old 10-26-2018, 01:34 PM
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Old 10-26-2018, 01:39 PM
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the stiletto cuts quick, like a whip through the air

I might be the only one, but I've always assumed this lyric from Firelies was a reference to her hurling a high-heel shoe at Lindsey during a fight.
I always found that lyric odd in its use of the word ďstilettoĒ. No way to say for sure that happened but I could see it. I remember Stevie talking about, if any of her fans ever tried to get on stage and hurt her, ďthese 6 inch heel boots would not feel good in their faceĒ
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Old 10-26-2018, 01:45 PM
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A stiletto is also a type of knife. It still is problematic as a simile (whips and knives don't really "cut through the air quickly" in a similar manner), but it's probably what she was going for.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stiletto
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Old 10-26-2018, 02:32 PM
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Old 10-26-2018, 03:59 PM
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I didn't say that, so stop it. Look, if you think man-on-man or woman-on-woman violence is equivalent to man-on-woman violence, then you're truly sick. Get help.
It's not even about man on woman violence, it's just that it's domestic violence. Violence from one romantic partner to another, regardless of their gender, is a very specific situation unlike other forms of violence due to the emotional/psychological situation that entails.

So I agree, Stevie throwing a chair at Chris or jumping Lindsey during Tango were bad things she shouldn't have done but you really can't put it in the same breathe as Lindsey regularly abusing his girlfriend.
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Old 10-26-2018, 04:00 PM
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A stiletto is also a type of knife. It still is problematic as a simile (whips and knives don't really "cut through the air quickly" in a similar manner), but it's probably what she was going for.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stiletto
indeed, the shoe heel was named for the knife-- high heeled shoes had wider, thicker heels and then tall very narrow heels came into style and were named for their resemblance the the knife.

Stilettos were common means of killing someone quickly and furtively and because of this are common in Shakespeare and other dramatic plays. People could hide them in the robes they wore in those times or in their garters (which men wore to hold up their silk socks or 'stockings'). You could quickly whip out the stiletto, stab your victim, put the knife back in your clothing and move on before anyone could see anything happening. So I always thought in Fireflies, which is of course all about the tribulations in the band, when she says "the stiletto cuts quick" it's a reference to all the hurt the five fireflies inflict on each other.
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Old 10-26-2018, 06:22 PM
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This type of violence is never okay. Doesn't matter whether it's a man or a woman. Case closed.
Indeed, but when it comes the her Highness, everything is aceptable.
And why is that? Because a man is stronger than a woman? Height and strenght are irrelevant when you're on drugs.
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Old 10-26-2018, 06:30 PM
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Old 10-26-2018, 07:53 PM
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I think this is the tweet that's being discussed, but it looks like it's from an older account Billy used to use:

"OKay, there was one time that Stevie a Chris were fighting (don't ask me why!) and Stvie picked up a chair and lobbed it at Chris!"

Here's the link:

https://twitter.com/RockaBilly4ever/...77510807330816

Interestingly a few tweets above that he says Stevie can hold a grudge.
I think Ken proved that when he pointed out how Stevie hated his dog, til the bitter end.
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Old 10-26-2018, 08:04 PM
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Ugh, another failure at reading comprehension. I never defended anyone. If it happened (which I suspect a mountain is being made of a molehill), of course it's wrong. But it doesn't rise to the level of man-on-woman violence. To make those equivalent is the very definition of amoral. So, yes, you should be ashamed.
The level of violence depends on .... the violence, not the gender. Of course, male on female violence is the biggest problem because it is the most prevalent. Yes, a man can inflict more severe injury than a woman, because heís stronger. The violence that CAH described is very severe and is does not compare to Stevie throwing a chair at Christine which chair never made contact with Christine, but if Stevie hit Christine over the head with a club or knifed Lindsey, then thatís not a lesser problem than Lindseyís alleged violence, whether Stevie is a woman, man or other.

Bonnie was not less problematic than Clyde. BUT if your point is Stevie throwing a chair at Christine and missing is not as bad as Lindsey pulling CAHís hair out by the roots, I agree with you.

And you know more than 3 people here, Ed.
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Old 10-26-2018, 08:06 PM
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Old 10-26-2018, 08:10 PM
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The level of violence depends on .... the violence, not the gender. Of course, male on female violence is the biggest problem because it is the most prevalent. Yes, a man can inflict more severe injury than a woman, because he’s stronger. The violence that CAH described is very severe and is does not compare to Stevie throwing a chair at Christine which chair never made contact with Christine, but if Stevie hit Christine over the head with a club or knifed Lindsey, then that’s not a lesser problem than Lindsey’s alleged violence, whether Stevie is a woman, man or other.

Bonnie was not less problematic than Clyde. BUT if your point is Stevie throwing a chair at Christine and missing is not as bad as Lindsey pulling CAH’s hair out by the roots, I agree with you.

And you know more than 3 people here, Ed.
Unless of course she has a gun, or a knife. Have you ever seen the movies Fatal Attraction or Play Misty For Me?! For Realz!
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Old 10-26-2018, 08:19 PM
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Unless of course she has a gun, or a knife. Have you ever seen the movies Fatal Attraction or Play Misty For Me?! For Realz!
But letís be honest, female violence is much more rare. Thatís why it makes such a bigger splash when it happens Lorena Bobbitt, anyone?

I donít like false equivalencies. I was just ranting about the NYT article on the bomb threats today, for that reason.

But I donít think Lindsey physically abused or out violenced anyone in that honor forsaken band. What he did to girlfriends aside from Stevie, I canít say.
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Old 10-26-2018, 08:32 PM
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I believe someone is posting under anotherís ID. Do not do that.
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But letís be honest, female violence is much more rare. Thatís why it makes such a bigger splash when it happens Lorena Bobbitt, anyone?

I donít like false equivalencies. I was just ranting about the NYT article on the bomb threats today, for that reason.

But I donít think Lindsey physically abused or out violenced anyone in that honor forsaken band. What he did to girlfriends aside from Stevie, I canít say.
I agree. Just had to throw that out there because female on male violence does happen. Ouch, you brought Lorena up!
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