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Old 07-22-2008, 12:32 PM
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I could be wrong, but I suspect that was sarcasm...
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Old 07-22-2008, 09:36 PM
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Old 07-22-2008, 11:46 PM
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My guess is that, if he thought the TIME project had any potential, it was owing to the fact that Dashut was involved (along with the three Brits, of course).

Find the exact quote & let's examine that putative admiration again. Let's try to put it into some sort of believable context (for example, Lindsey liked a very old Mason album that predated TIME by about 20 years).

Did I miss something, or are you conjecturing?

Well, yeah, he does that. But after all these years, you (of all people) should by now have a pretty good idea of what sort of music & production he gravitates toward.
judging by his latest effort... boring music...
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judging by his latest effort... boring music...
What?! No way. As far as Behind The Mask goes, it's one of my favorite Fleetwood Mac albums and the BTM lineup might be my favorite of all the Fleetwood Mac lineups. In my view, Christine's songs are some of her best ever and they collectively might be the strongest she has on any Mac album. Billy's songs are top notch too, in particular Hard Feelings which is among my all time favorites. I think Rick got the short end of the stick with Walk Another Mile and Got No Home not getting on the album. Stevie's would have been better off not even been on the album since Freedom is the only song that's worth listening to, which is another one of my all time favorites.

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Old 07-23-2008, 07:41 PM
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What?! No way. As far as Behind The Mask goes, it's one of my favorite Fleetwood Mac albums and the BTM lineup might be my favorite of all the Fleetwood Mac lineups. In my view, Christine's songs are some of her best ever and they collectively might be the strongest she has on any Mac album. Billy's songs are top notch too, in particular Hard Feelings which is among my all time favorites. I think Rick got the short end of the stick with Walk Another Mile and Got No Home not getting on the album. Stevie's would have been better off not even been on the album since Freedom is the only song that's worth listening to, which is another one of my all time favorites.

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I love behind the mask... I was talking about Under the Skin... I heard some of the demo's and Bsides that chili gave me and a long time ago.. and loved it even more...
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What?! No way. As far as Behind The Mask goes, it's one of my favorite Fleetwood Mac albums and the BTM lineup might be my favorite of all the Fleetwood Mac lineups. In my view, Christine's songs are some of her best ever and they collectively might be the strongest she has on any Mac album. Billy's songs are top notch too, in particular Hard Feelings which is among my all time favorites.
But an album is more than the songs, is it not?
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Old 07-26-2008, 06:18 PM
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But an album is more than the songs, is it not?
That is indeed my problem with Say You Will... and somewhat Behind the Mask... although BTM has more of a band feel to it...

Some of the songs are good... but neither feel like an album....

Now Mirage.. .that feels like an album... felt like Christine and Lindsey really worked a lot on the arrangements together.... Tango too...
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I'm not really a fan of the music on Behind the Mask, the only Mac album I refuse to buy. I love Save Me--and that's it. The rest seems to me, in Lindsey's word, generic. It was a real come down for me when I first heard this. I felt deflated. The band was certainly working as a unit here, but to me the ideas were tired, the production too glossy, and the magic was gone.

On the other hand, Say You Will has a number of strong songs and fine performances but--as mentioned by jbrownsjr--it feels more like a set of loosely assembled songs than a coherent album.

By the way, I have always preferred Time to BTM. Though I hate Dave Mason's two songs, the rest of Time is well produced and performed.
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Old 08-16-2008, 04:20 AM
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Well, I love BTW and SYW! Mask will always be one of my favourite Fleetwood Mac albums. Don't ask me why - but I love it. As far as 'Time'...well, for me, that might as well not have been recorded. I have it, but I don't listen to it. SYW, imo, would've worked better as a Lindsey solo album and a Stevie solo album. I have made a Stevie solo album out of her SYW tracks and a few others:

My Heart
Illume
Thrown Down (Wall of Sound mix)
If You Ever Did Believe
Crystal (solo)
Say You Will
Smile At You
Running Through The Garden
Silver Girl
Everybody Finds Out
Not Make Believe
Destiny Rules
Goodbye Baby

Try it. It works so much better.
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Old 08-18-2008, 10:41 AM
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Though I hate Dave Mason's two songs, the rest of Time is well produced and performed.

How do you feel about Dave Mason's solo material overall?
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Old 08-18-2008, 10:52 AM
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(for example, Lindsey liked a very old Mason album that predated TIME by about 20 years).
And, if you listen to Dave Mason, you'll see that the material he's written through the years is pretty much the SAME in 1994 as it was in 1970 (or earlier). And, the fact that the two biggest hits we performed were songs written by someone else ("All Along The Watchtower" by Bob Dylan via Jimi Hendrix; and "We Just Disagree" by his bandmate Jim Kreuger)...his actual biggest hits were hits by other people covering his songs: "Feelin' Alright" by Joe Cocker and "Only You Know & I Know" by Delaney & Bonnie And Friends.

If you listen to Dave's own albums, his two songs on Time aren't radically different from his previous material in the least...and one song ("I Wonder Why") lyrically, quotes quite a few earlier Dave Mason songs. Either of those two could've fit comfortably on ANY Dave Mason album.
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Old 08-18-2008, 10:07 PM
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I think that Dave's writing always had a trite quality to his lyrics (same goes for Christine, BTW), but he was able to pull them off much better during the Traffic/Alone Together era. After that, it was really hit or miss. Sometimes there were wonderful songs, other times the lyrics could get painful. I think my biggest objection to his Time songs is that he seemed to focus more on being a hard rocker than the AOR legend he had once been. Now, I loved the Soccer Rocks The Globe version of Blow By Blow. That WAS classic Dave Mason. But then they decided to make it hard rocker, and it just didn't work.
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I love Lindsey's guitar work on Behind the Mask, actually I love the whole song!
Sadly that one song is why I listen to this particular FM album
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Behind the Mask is one of my favorite Mac albums. Christine shines, Billy is a more than adequate replacement for Lindsay, and you can tell Stevie worked hard on this album, probably as a way of showing Lindsay the band could make a good album without him. I was disappointed Save Me and Skies the Limit didn't do better on the Billboard chart. Compared to Say You Will, BTM is a masterpiece. And I like Say You Will overall, but it's not cohesive.
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