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Old 01-17-2011, 08:28 PM
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Dear Mr Bassman,

You are no doubt correct that the longer Peter was playing with people the better he got just from a performance standpoint. I was making more of a mid-life comment about the relativeness in time.
I certainly would give much credence to your personal , first hand observations of Peter during this period, as I have no such knowledge but only what little I have heard and what has been written to date. I too look forward to any insight you can give us fans and admirers of Peter during this or any period.

oh, by the way, thanks for sharing your words.

vinnie c
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Old 01-18-2011, 06:20 AM
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Dear Mr Bassman,

You are no doubt correct that the longer Peter was playing with people the better he got just from a performance standpoint. I was making more of a mid-life comment about the relativeness in time.
I certainly would give much credence to your personal , first hand observations of Peter during this period, as I have no such knowledge but only what little I have heard and what has been written to date. I too look forward to any insight you can give us fans and admirers of Peter during this or any period.

oh, by the way, thanks for sharing your words.

vinnie c
Hi Vinnie
apologies if I misconstrued your words, not intentional, I assure you.
Peter definitely improved during my year with the band, apart from the odd regression, like the night in Germany when he sang no words to Need Your Love So Bad!! Frustrating, but not life changing.
One thing that always amazed me was his voice, when I had to sound check him at a club with the previous incarnation of Kolors, I was surprised at how soft his voice was and that he attained those fantastic sounds with very little volume, I had always assumed that he was virtually screaming to create that raw blues sound, and he always seemed able to maintain this. Quite eerie in a way.

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Old 01-20-2011, 03:25 PM
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Bassman, not to pre-empty your history...but how long were Kolors active?

Martin Celmins wrote that they broke up in fall 1984, but I have a concert recording from June 1985 and communicated with a guy who was at the gig and verified the date.
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Old 01-21-2011, 04:54 AM
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Bassman, not to pre-empty your history...but how long were Kolors active?

Martin Celmins wrote that they broke up in fall 1984, but I have a concert recording from June 1985 and communicated with a guy who was at the gig and verified the date.
Yes indeed, Martin was miffed that he did not speak to me before the book was published, his only contact for Kolors, was Whittaker, so there is only one view point. I was with the band from August 84 until August 85, the last gig being the festival in Tel Aviv, that was a flop, by then Emanuel had departed the band and there was another gig booked at the Mean Fiddler, but I have no idea if it came off or not, if it did Greg certainly did not play at it, I had to move on.

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Old 01-21-2011, 10:09 AM
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Yes indeed, Martin was miffed that he did not speak to me before the book was published, his only contact for Kolors, was Whittaker, so there is only one view point. I was with the band from August 84 until August 85, the last gig being the festival in Tel Aviv, that was a flop, by then Emanuel had departed the band and there was another gig booked at the Mean Fiddler, but I have no idea if it came off or not, if it did Greg certainly did not play at it, I had to move on.
Dear Bassman,
Was it that the festival was just underattended or that the band was playing poorly. If it was the latter I would love to hear your opinion on the band dynamics and how the band worked together.

Did Martin ever interview you anyway?

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Old 02-02-2011, 05:24 AM
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Dear Bassman,
Was it that the festival was just underattended or that the band was playing poorly. If it was the latter I would love to hear your opinion on the band dynamics and how the band worked together.

Did Martin ever interview you anyway?

vinnie c
The fact that the festival was a flop had nothing to do with the band at all, just a lack of attendees, Marillion were top of the bill, from memory, they were definitely there, also Mark Knoffler's brothers band, and several others, the names escape me now, but I will se if I can put a finger on it. Peter had played Israel before my involvement and it had apparently been a success, hence being invited to the festival.
I was interviewed by Martin and provided him with the picture of the 84/85 line up for the "official version" of the biography, but I do not believe that he was able to change any of the text, probably due to cost.
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Old 02-13-2011, 11:18 AM
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Here are the remaining gigs, if anyone has any accessable recordings I would be most grateful.

08/12/1984 TH Audi Max Aachen Germany
10/12/1984 Jo Am Kudan Berlin
11/12/1984 Savoy Music Theatre Schauenberg
13/12/1984 Sinkassen Frankfurt
14/12/1984 Gundle Dinger Casino Basle Switzerland
15/12/1984 Maxim Stuttgart
17/12/1984 Hunky Dory Detmold
18/12/1984 Luxor Koln
19/12/1984 Logo Hamburg
22/12/1984 Dingwalls Camden Town London
14/02/1985 Mean Fiddler Harlesden London
15/03/1985 Wimbledon Theatre Wimbledon
26/04/1985 Dingwalls Camden Town
27/04/1985 Club Royal Guildford
10/05/1985 New Ocean Club Cardiff Wales
24/05/1985 Tunnell Club Grenwich London
01/06/1985 City Hall Sta Albans
26/06/1985 Druckhaus Hanau Stenheim Germany
27/06/1985 Pfalervilla Offenburg
28/06/1985 Festhalle Tuttlingen
29/06/1985 Konzertsaal Neu Ulm
30/06/1985 Maxim Stuttgart
01/07/1985 Zentrum Zoo Tubingen
02/07/1985 Steunbruchtheater Muhtal
03/07/1985 Schwimbad Music Club Heidelberg
06/07/1985 Marquee Club London
13/07/1985 Dingwall Camden Town *
06/08/1985 Ramat Gan Stadium Tel Aviv Israel.

* This gig was the same day as Live Aid and was called Club Aid where all the top drawing bands at this venue played the same night for free.

Well folks, tha's all she wrote.
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Old 02-14-2011, 02:00 AM
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Here are the remaining gigs, if anyone has any accessable recordings I would be most grateful.

08/12/1984 TH Audi Max Aachen Germany
10/12/1984 Jo Am Kudan Berlin
11/12/1984 Savoy Music Theatre Schauenberg
13/12/1984 Sinkassen Frankfurt
14/12/1984 Gundle Dinger Casino Basle Switzerland
15/12/1984 Maxim Stuttgart
17/12/1984 Hunky Dory Detmold
18/12/1984 Luxor Koln
19/12/1984 Logo Hamburg
22/12/1984 Dingwalls Camden Town London
14/02/1985 Mean Fiddler Harlesden London
15/03/1985 Wimbledon Theatre Wimbledon
26/04/1985 Dingwalls Camden Town
27/04/1985 Club Royal Guildford
10/05/1985 New Ocean Club Cardiff Wales
24/05/1985 Tunnell Club Grenwich London
01/06/1985 City Hall Sta Albans
26/06/1985 Druckhaus Hanau Stenheim Germany
27/06/1985 Pfalervilla Offenburg
28/06/1985 Festhalle Tuttlingen
29/06/1985 Konzertsaal Neu Ulm
30/06/1985 Maxim Stuttgart
01/07/1985 Zentrum Zoo Tubingen
02/07/1985 Steunbruchtheater Muhtal
03/07/1985 Schwimbad Music Club Heidelberg
06/07/1985 Marquee Club London
13/07/1985 Dingwall Camden Town *
06/08/1985 Ramat Gan Stadium Tel Aviv Israel.

* This gig was the same day as Live Aid and was called Club Aid where all the top drawing bands at this venue played the same night for free.

Well folks, tha's all she wrote.


Thanks again! This clears up 3 dates for me. PM for more music..
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The youtube uploader for the Rockpalast venue has closed his account. So I thought it would be nice to upload it myself.
Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXt8D...ature=youtu.be
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Old 10-12-2012, 02:32 PM
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Thanks a million, Wouter!
I am looking forward to see the whole thing!

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Old 10-23-2012, 05:22 AM
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Well. I deleted the show again because of audio missing on one channel. I fixed that and also turned up the volume. Then, when I started giving some information I ran into a question I should like to ask, especiallly for mr. bassman here.
The Rockpalast archives mentions line-up mentions Duban Laverde (aka Spartacus R) as bass player. I also have an audio where the presenter gives a short history of Peter Green and finishes his comments with the line-up. He also presents Duban Laverde as the bass player.
However, since Kolors has some Osibisa roots, I wonder if the bass player might have been Spartacus R from Osibisa, whose real name was Roy Bedeau. Could it have been that Spartacus R was the bass player and the Rockpalast organisation wasn't aware of two of them and assumed it must have been Duban Laverde??????

I'd like to have this cleared up before uploading again.

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Old 10-23-2012, 06:29 PM
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Okay, so here it is again, with mono on left and right channel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKGAQNahGJs
Enjoy
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Old 10-25-2012, 01:34 AM
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Thank you Wouter :-)
Have you got more such interesting gigs? :-)

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