Mick Fleetwood Open to Reunion With Lindsey Buckingham - Rolling Stone

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum

This shows how wacko she is. For 99.9% of people in this world this would just be a bit of harmless fun...a bit of banter. Laugh it off. Smile. Give a menacing but playful stare. Shake your finger. Giggle a bit. Move on.
Not her.

I agree but when you don't like someone sometimes you take the bait and do something you regret. As much as Stevie and Lindsey may be in a cold war on stage, this was the first time I saw her confront him vocally in front of a crowd. Asking him if he did that. Then WHY did you do that? Then inferred it was because her banter was too long. The pot boiled over that night. Other nights it still exists but they can hide behind the microphone and performance.

[jmn3]

Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum

This shows how wacko she is. For 99.9% of people in this world this would just be a bit of harmless fun...a bit of banter. Laugh it off. Smile. Give a menacing but playful stare. Shake your finger. Giggle a bit. Move on.
Not her.

Would he play a guitCar horn when Bob Dylan was talking??!??! How dare he!?

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by jmn3

Would he play a guitCar horn when Bob Dylan was talking??!??! How dare he!?

$he is so full of herself that it's ridiculous. If her Mother could only see her now.


Shows are supposed to be FUN. Get over yourself, you old hag!

[BigAl84]

I've always found it hilarious that practically EVERY NIGHT on that tour (OWTS) Christine and John would sit on an amp and have an entire conversation while Stevie rambled on about Gypsy....yet a few hand gestures at Music Cares sent her into a Chernobyl meltdown....or Lindsey's added sound effect Miami caused a riff.

I wonder if all of her anger and resentment comes from knowing deep down, almost nobody in that bad appreciates her 15 minute soapbox story times between songs.

It's like Nelly from Little House on the Prairie. She knew she was disliked, but it didn't stop her from continuing the same behavior.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by BigAl84

I've always found it hilarious that practically EVERY NIGHT on that tour (OWTS) Christine and John would sit on an amp and have an entire conversation while Stevie rambled on about Gypsy....yet a few hand gestures at Music Cares sent her into a Chernobyl meltdown....or Lindsey's added sound effect Miami caused a riff.

I wonder if all of her anger and resentment comes from knowing deep down, almost nobody in that bad appreciates her 15 minute soapbox story times between songs.

It's like Nelly from Little House on the Prairie. She knew she was disliked, but it didn't stop her from continuing the same behavior.

I would have chopped off my middle finger just to hear John and Chris's conversation just for one night sitting on those amps during this story time. They were engaged in deep conversation and it drove me nuts not knowing what they were saying.

Maybe:

Can this story get any longer?

Nice hotel but the coffee sucks

I always loved playing this town

Are Stevie and Lindsey not speaking again?

That bloody cheap bastard Mick charging fans to say hello

I cant wait for this tour to be over

[David]

If the band was a democracy, as Stevie always said it was, the other four should have taken the initiative as a “voting” bloc and told Stevie to limit the anecdotal break to a few minutes in order to keep the momentum going. A concert needs pacing (that quality missing from the 1980 live album). That way, Lindsey wouldn’t have to bear the brunt of Stevie’s selfish airhead wrath. A band always has work to do that isn’t directly related to music, and Mac used to be so good at that in the Seventies but really got terrible at it. It caused a lot of problems over the years. You need a united front to solve the little problems, or they’ll fester.

Had the no-nonsense John Courage managed the OWTS tour, Stevie’s anecdotage would have been immediately dealt with. Her overlong stories would have been “tale-docked.”

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by David

If the band was a democracy, as Stevie always said it was, the other four should have taken the initiative as a “voting” bloc and told Stevie to limit the anecdotal break to a few minutes in order to keep the momentum going. A concert needs pacing (that quality missing from the 1980 live album). That way, Lindsey wouldn’t have to bear the brunt of Stevie’s selfish airhead wrath. A band always has work to do that isn’t directly related to music, and Mac used to be so good at that in the Seventies but really got terrible at it. It caused a lot of problems over the years. You need a united front to solve the little problems, or they’ll fester.

Had the no-nonsense John Courage managed the OWTS tour, Stevie’s anecdotage would have been immediately dealt with. Her overlong stories would have been “tale-docked.”

$tevie IS FM now. There's NO WAY Mick would vote against his big paycheck.

Do you really think $tevie wouldn't have gone all Lindsey on the Colonel? "Mick, he dared to tell me to do something!!! It's him or me!!!"

[John Run]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

$tevie IS FM now. There's NO WAY Mick would vote against his big paycheck.

Do you really think $tevie wouldn't have gone all Lindsey on the Colonel? "Mick, he dared to tell me to do something!!! It's him or me!!!"

From 1997 to 2018 Lindsey ran Fleetwood Mac. As Stevie said, we all get a vote, but Lindsey gets two votes. There was no Dance, then Say You Will Tour (which was 120 dates) without Lindsey. But by then Stevie had reestablished her solo career, and slowly she realized that she didn't need Lindsey and why do I need to be submissive to his wants and needs? Without Stevie there was no arena / stadium Fleetwood Mac. She knew it, seized on it, and won the battle.

Now in order to do the ultimate payday, you need for the last time ever, the Rumours 5 on stage. Will she take the bait? If you take that bait, you can do the 30 largest markets in the US at stadium size, 10 Markets in Europe and 6-8 largest markets in AU / NZ with about 60 dates over 12 months with a huge multiplier on margin vs cost and massive guarantees. We will see if it happens. Lindsey will jump at it, not because he needs to, but because he wants to, but it is all up to Stevie.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by John Run

From 1997 to 2018 Lindsey ran Fleetwood Mac. As Stevie said, we all get a vote, but Lindsey gets two votes. There was no Dance, then Say You Will Tour (which was 120 dates) without Lindsey. But by then Stevie had reestablished her solo career, and slowly she realized that she didn't need Lindsey and why do I need to be submissive to his wants and needs? Without Stevie there was no arena / stadium Fleetwood Mac. She knew it, seized on it, and won the battle.

Now in order to do the ultimate payday, you need for the last time ever, the Rumours 5 on stage. Will she take the bait? If you take that bait, you can do the 30 largest markets in the US at stadium size, 10 Markets in Europe and 6-8 largest markets in AU / NZ with about 60 dates over 12 months with a huge multiplier on margin vs cost and massive guarantees. We will see if it happens. Lindsey will jump at it, not because he needs to, but because he wants to, but it is all up to Stevie.

Agreed completely. Once her solo career regained it's momentum(thanks to the Dance/Lindsey), $he began to realize that $HE was the seat filler. And her ego began to inflate.

Ultimate payday - don't count your chickens before they've hatched. John has said he's done touring, and Christine will be knocking on 80. I DO think you'd be right if time was on their side. But it's not. They're officially old AF now.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Agreed completely. Once her solo career regained it's momentum(thanks to the Dance/Lindsey), $he began to realize that $HE was the seat filler. And her ego began to inflate.

Ultimate payday - don't count your chickens before they've hatched. John has said he's done touring, and Christine will be knocking on 80. I DO think you'd be right if time was on their side. But it's not. They're officially old AF now.

I also agree. I also think once she got off klonopin she realized even more how powerful she is within the band esp post Time

I was recently reading a 1990 interview with Stevie and even in her klonopin haze she was attacking Mick for performing way too many shows. She was fully in the Mac and committed but Mick saw the end coming and booked a very long world tour with an insane amount of European stops including Australia before the Mac even stepped foot in the States. Today that would never happen. Stevie would have veto power over any touring period. It just was refreshing to hear her go after Mick while still doing her duty within the group. Now the shoe is on the other foot. Stevie is no longer the slave to Mick and his endless shows but he now is a slave to Stevie......firing members, hiring members, and doing whatever the f**k she wants. It truly is $tevie Mac.

[jbrownsjr]

I remember in 1997, they were making fun of them for being old.

[FuzzyPlum]

Originally Posted by tango87

Mick's going to be interviewed on Zoe Ball's Breakfast Show on BBC Radio 1 tomorrow morning, continuing his rounds...

Just listened to this interview. Mick was on the line from Maui.
Mick flogging the Peter Green concert. Nice interview, but nothing except the PG tribute.

[nicepace]

I think it's highly unlikely we'll see a farewell tour, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if we got a farewell pay-per-view, streaming download, and/or DVD. Forgive me if this has been suggested already in this thread, but I just popped in to the board for the first time in a longish while, and I simply don't have the stamina to read the whole thread. lol

[soul_drifter333]

Originally Posted by nicepace

I think it's highly unlikely we'll see a farewell tour, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if we got a farewell pay-per-view, streaming download, and/or DVD. Forgive me if this has been suggested already in this thread, but I just popped in to the board for the first time in a longish while, and I simply don't have the stamina to read the whole thread. lol

Then Lindsey and Stevie can be in 2 separate places and edited together like it's an actual concert. Stevie can then spend weeks on closeups and editing her speeches so they actually make sense.

[button-lip]

Originally Posted by BigAl84

I've always found it hilarious that practically EVERY NIGHT on that tour (OWTS) Christine and John would sit on an amp and have an entire conversation while Stevie rambled on about Gypsy....yet a few hand gestures at Music Cares sent her into a Chernobyl meltdown....or Lindsey's added sound effect Miami caused a riff.

I wonder if all of her anger and resentment comes from knowing deep down, almost nobody in that bad appreciates her 15 minute soapbox story times between songs.

It's like Nelly from Little House on the Prairie. She knew she was disliked, but it didn't stop her from continuing the same behavior.

The hand gestures were never the issue. The issue was who did them and who was with him at that time. The Buckinghams were not welcomed by Stevie that night.