Fleetwood Mac and Eagles planning New York and L.A. festivals for 2017

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by Nicks Fan

I have a love hate thing re Felder. I agree that he was not treated very well by Fry and Henley over the years but where I take issue with him is this. He sued them and got a settlement and yet he won't gracefully take the high road.

First I heard stories that he has rountinely signed dvd's for fans from the Farewell One tour of which he was not even a part of.

Secondly he stirs the pot overnot being invited to the Grammy's to honour Glenn. Glenn and him were not on speaking terms and had not been for some time so why the hell would you think Glenn, his family or the Eagles members would want you there on stage???

Thirdly he creates a petition to the Kennedy Center Honors to get him, Bernie, and Randy included. While I agree that Bernie and Randy should have been included as they were original members what he did was low. You were fired. You sued. You got a nice chunk of money. Move on.

He is an amazing guitarist but he acts like a spoiled child.

Put yourself in his shoes...

He was the last person to join the band, to be made a PARTNER in the band. An OWNER. Joe and Timothy were never offered that(the machine was getting too big, by the time they came along).

So Bernie and Randy quit, which meant that Frey, Felder, and Henley were ~now~ the three sole owners of the band. 1/3 each.

Now, there's no denying that Frey and Henley were the two principles in the band, since they were both the singers and primary songwriters. BUT, let's call a spade a spade. Felder owned his 1/3 of the band, and rightly deserved his 1/3 of the profits. Because that was legally the deal.

And greed took over, and Frey and Henley wanted more. I agree that they're the more popular ones, and maybe Felder should have given in. Probably in hindsight, he wishes that he had given in. But he certainly didn't have to, and I'm not sure if I'd want to give into their greed, and give up what was legally mine...

Also, back in the day, touring revenue had always been split 20% for each of the 5 members. Later, Henley and Frey wanted Felder, Walsh and Schmidt knocked down to 10% of the profits. 10% of a Gazillion dollars is still a sh*t ton of money, but he didn't want to back down, even demanding to see the books. Timothy called him, and told him he should sign the "10%" deal, but he wasn't having it. That's why they fired him.

They really did screw him, IMO.

[Nicks Fan]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Put yourself in his shoes...

He was the last person to join the band, to be made a PARTNER in the band. An OWNER. Joe and Timothy were never offered that(the machine was getting too big, by the time they came along).

So Bernie and Randy quit, which meant that Frey, Felder, and Henley were ~now~ the three sole owners of the band. 1/3 each.

Now, there's no denying that Frey and Henley were the two principles in the band, since they were both the singers and primary songwriters. BUT, let's call a spade a spade. Felder owned his 1/3 of the band, and rightly deserved his 1/3 of the profits. Because that was legally the deal.

And greed took over, and Frey and Henley wanted more. I agree that they're the more popular ones, and maybe Felder should have given in. Probably in hindsight, he wishes that he had given in. But he certainly didn't have to, and I'm not sure if I'd want to give into their greed, and give up what was legally mine...

Also, back in the day, touring revenue had always been split 20% for each of the 5 members. Later, Henley and Frey wanted Felder, Walsh and Schmidt knocked down to 10% of the profits. 10% of a Gazillion dollars is still a sh*t ton of money, but he didn't want to back down, even demanding to see the books. Timothy called him, and told him he should sign the "10%" deal, but he wasn't having it. That's why they fired him.

They really did screw him, IMO.

I totally agree. My issue though is that he took the settlement and yet continues to bitch and moan. I agree they screwed him big time but you can't take the money and then expect to me let back in the band. I always thought Henley and Fry were great songwriters and muscians but as people they sucked big time. Very hypocritcial considering they bitch and moan about corporate greed etc and then their tickets are priced so the very people they despise are the majority of the purchasers. 1,000 bucks for 1 front row ticket.

One thing I find amusing though is in the documentary Glenn's reasoning for wanting more money on the HFO tour was because he and Don filled stadiums and arena's when the Eagles were broken up.

Well that is mostly true ( Frey fails to mention that he was the Opening act for Tina Turner in 85-86 if I have the years correct) and that by 93-94 he was not a big draw and if he were to have toured solo it wouldn't have been arenas he would have played but likley small theaters.

Their Ego's were soo big I don't know how anyone could put up with them.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by Nicks Fan

Well that is mostly true ( Frey fails to mention that he was the Opening act for Tina Turner in 85-86 if I have the years correct) and that by 93-94 he was not a big draw and if he were to have toured solo it wouldn't have been arenas he would have played but likley small theaters.

Their Ego's were soo big I don't know how anyone could put up with them.

Glenn was never the draw that Henley was. When they disbanded, even though Glenn was the Eagles leader, Henley was the one whose solo star shined brightly. His songs exuded class, while Glenn was putting out The Heat Is On(vomit!).

And I agree. I wouldn't have wanted to meet Henley or Frey. Both are complete egomaniacs. I'd like to meet the other three, though!

[Kubrick2788]

I'd rather hear The Heat Is On than Boys of Summer ANY DAY.

[dreamsunwind]

Lol I saw that Eagles doc on Netflix and Henley/Frey made our Lindsey look like a walk in the park.

[dontlookdown]

Don Henley had some great songs on his solo albums:
End of the Innocence, Boys of Summer, Last Worthless Evening.
Glenn's solo career was embarrassing, and not even close to the level of his songs with the Eagles.

I'm curious about the other bands they say will be added to the lineup for these shows.

I saw the Eagles on The Long Run tour and they were unbelievably great.

[Kubrick2788]

That is an interesting thing to consider. If this is supposed to be bands like FM/Eagles, what are the other California/70s rock groups and artists still out there? I'm sure Jackson Browne would be considered for a slot, but who else is left? Or will this be about finding groups that are more contemporary and similar in style? I could go for either. Though dubbing it "Classic East/West" makes me think it's an oldies kind of show.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by Kubrick2788

I'd rather hear The Heat Is On than Boys of Summer ANY DAY.

One of my favorite tunes.

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by Kubrick2788

I'd rather hear The Heat Is On than Boys of Summer ANY DAY.

History will be kinder to Boys of Summer than to The Heat is On and justifiably so. The Heat is On is a pop throwaway, here today gone tomorrow. Boys of Summer lyrics try too hard to be smart but has some great atmosphere and guitar lines. And it had a memorable video.

[Kubrick2788]

Lines like, "I saw a dead head sticker on a Cadillac," always make me cringe.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by Kubrick2788

Lines like, "I saw a dead head sticker on a Cadillac," always make me cringe.

Really
That line is so cool especially the context and irony of the line.
Don't look back!

I love Glenn Frey but some of his solo singles were just so cheezy. The heat is on was one of them. You belong to the city is another. But the one that makes me cringe is "The one that you love." It reminds me of being a child waiting in the dentist chair waiting to get my teeth drilled with some cheezy bad adult contemporary station plugged into the office. I lay there thinking....this is NOT relaxing me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb5OOAU4Duc
I can take Smugglers Blues but not much else. But of course Glenn was a brilliant song writer and producer.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by Kubrick2788

I'd rather hear The Heat Is On than Boys of Summer ANY DAY.

You and jbrowns are both dead to me. That is all. Now make me a cocktail.