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I've never understood the conceit, held by some, that every Mac tune needs to be so lushly produced that it sounds like it's emerging from the mists of Shangri-La... or something like that. There's nothing objectively wrong with them being sloppy, rough, or hard-edged every now and then, even if it means deviating from expectations (oooh, scary!).
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You couldn't say that to Bob Dylan!
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To get to your point. Lindsey made Under the Skin because he wanted to make an album in the style of The Dance versions Big Love and Go Insane because of the incredible response they get from audiences. AND UNDER THE SKIN is what he came up with?!?! (The closest studio song to those two songs would be Bel Air Rain.) This is what they do. It just is. That's why I wish they had more Live albums -- or would even do an Unplugged session. Not in place of their perfectionist studio productions, but as complimentary performances.
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Well, what if it was the key to a motel that you rent by the hour? Or, what if they rented themselves a secret little love shack on the bad side of town where they could meet for their rendezvous. In that case, maybe neither of them should be there. He should leave the key, so she can end the lease and trot back to her own home. As for turned and ran -- there's no way out of that! Michele |
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I knew the SYW version before I heard the demo version and I don't see the point in listening to the demo ever again. It's fine but it just isn't as interesting as the SYW version. The SYW version has that excellent guitar work at the end and, as Chilli mentioned, the fantastic bass line.
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Oh, that is clearly in that vein as well, so we're on the same page... but I meant "closest" in terms of being within that vein and similarly enjoyable.
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I totally agree with you both! Love love love it!!!
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smile at you
hi guys...well i'm in agreement with the majority and love love love the angry smile at u demo...it's one of my fav demos that stevie has made...as to not caring about the demos that stevie has out there i feel so sorry that u've missed so many bc there are a lot of wonderful early demos of the angel voiced stevie from the early 80's and they send chills down my spine...i could listen to them for decades and never get tired but i still have time for new music as well...that's the joys of itunes and mp3s...u can mix and match all ur favs...i do think syw is very monotoned and i think a lot of that is a result of lindseys influence in the production...don't get me wrong...he's a genious and has done an excellent job of interpreting stevies music over the years for the mac but i don't feel he has the same interest in doing it now...and i love stevie's bob dylan line...an artist is an artist and stevie has def proved she is one...they don't like to take direction or criticism in the wording of a song and with stevie having made a solid solo career she would def take exception to that...hugs pat
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And about "I should have turned away and ran as fast as I can" it isn't grammatically correct, but for some reason I always thought it was "fast as I CAME" instead of "fast as I CAN" but I am pretty sure it says "can" in the lyrics, so I don't know. I think the demo is great for us Stevie fans and I really love it, but I think the SYW version is just as good, and much better as a song. It has unique music and you can still hear some anger in Stevie's voice at some parts. However, the SYW version doesn't have some of the lyrics the demo has, which is something I don't like about it. But I like them both so I can't say really which one I personally prefer, it just depends on my mood.
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Does anyone else get as great a joy as I get out of the playing on the demo? I don't care about anger issues in the singers, but I sure love that playing: that walloping Mick Fleetwood drumming & that jagged Lindsey Buckingham electric guitar, slashing across the song like a machete.
They're a band here. They're fierce and funky. On the 2003 track, there's no there there. It's ****. It's elevator music.
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Then I'm not your friend any longer.
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Beethoven was the titan who effected a revolution in music every bit as fundamental as the French Revolution in politics. He was in some senses very much a man of his age, expanding the forms & genres he inherited & infusing them with personal vision & the spirit of the age, but he is also a man for every age. His music influences the course of composition to this day. Its enormous intellectual strength & ingenuity are almost unfathomable, as scholars examining his manuscripts have recently shown. Beethoven embodies every human state of emotion: from triumph to despair, from joy to darkness. Fleetwood Mac has not lived up to the Beethovenian model, the Beethovenian ideal. What are your thoughts? Oh, I wish strand were still here!
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I think that, at times, the band (read: Lindsey) focuses more on Fleetwood Mac's experimental "new direction" more than the artistry of the music. It worked with Tusk because everyone was younger, at their creative primes and fresh off of a formula that was pretty much guaranteed to work. They strayed from Rumours, sure, but not that much. They still sounded like a band, not three different creative voices under one disjointed name. Even Christine and Stevie's songs were influenced by Lindsey's "new direction" but the diversity was still there.... yet the band was the band-- a union of five that was so sweetly distinctive in both the individuals and as a whole.
I think the potential is there. Do I think anyone is going to see the light anytime soon and change the dynamic? No. The unity needs to come back before the phenomenal music can.... and it needs to be consistent. |
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