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Stevie is normal.
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btw, normal my ass.
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Amber and Gateandgarden, get real. This whole thread started when somebody's college professor said he had a crush on Christine. The poster even clarified that the professor did in fact mean Christine, not Stevie, which was a surprise to said poster. So, essentially, this is a thread about why some guys have a crush on Christine and not Stevie. And, Homer, being a GUY, is simply expressing why he has a crush on Christine and not Stevie.
Sorry to burst your chiffon bubble, but Stevie is NOT normal. Normal women don't go around in public always wearing chiffon and platforms (or Reeboks with rhinestones glued to them ). Normal women don't have a huge entourage. Normal women wear jeans and sneakers, or slacks and blazers, or dresses. In other words, most women are like Christine, not Stevie. But who cares? Do you think Stevie WANTS to be normal? No, she wants to be a star. She wants to be a recognizable celebrity, and the only way to be THAT is to be different. I mean, Mick is different and is easily recognized while John is normal and could easily get lost in a crowd. Yes, dream catchers are part of certain people's religions, but not Stevie's. She's gone on record as being a born-again Christian. But, that's not why most people think of her as a fragil, fairy princess type. Stevie has her schtick. She's become this caricature that she created YEARS ago, and a lot of people don't buy it. A lot of people also have issues with her twirling and her song topics, which feed into the caricature (and, please note, I'm not saying I don't like the songs listed, because I like most of them): Rhiannon Dreams Gold Dust Woman Sisters Of The Moon Gypsy Seven Wonders Paper Doll Sweet Girl Illume (9/11) Running Through The Garden Bella Donna Wild Heart Gate And Garden Enchanted Nightbird Sable On Blond Beauty And The Beast Ghosts Alice Juliet Trouble In Shangri-La Candlebright Sorcerer Planets Of The Universe Bombay Sapphires While Christine's songs are usually the safest on record, and can be dull, she sings normal, pop love songs. Nothing out of the ordinary. Pretty straight-forward. That's why people can relate to her more on a human level. You'll never see a Christine fan call her "the queen of rock" or refer to her as a "rock godess." Christine is just a normal woman who was asked to join her buddy's blues band, then fell into Fleetwood Mac, and then fell into rock stardom. Christine didn't ask for any of it. She's the antithesis of a rock star. She's one of us, and happened to get lucky. Stevie is almost like a diva. I think she's too nice a person and cares too much about her fans to be called a diva, but she does have that superstar quality about her. She is/was the superstar and the sex symbol of Fleetwood Mac. Christine was just the cute girl next door. In any event, if you don't want to know why some guys prefer Christine over Stevie, then ignore a thread called "Crush" on the Christine board. You chiffon heads can be so insecure if somebody says they prefer ANYBODY over Stevie.
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To me, Stevie's persona is no more unbelievable than Christine's four decades worth of singing love songs to guys who done her wrong but for whom she'd still sit at home and wait. Or Lindsey's three decades of selling himself as a quirky "artiste" who's outside the mainstream, while readily alligning himself to big-ticket record companies who can get him the biggest cash advance. Sure, Stevie's a middle-aged "fairy princess" who still writes about a relationship that broke up 25 years ago, but then Christine's a middle-aged co-dependent who still writes love songs to guys who only call her when they need a ride to the airport, and Lindsey's a middle-aged millionaire mansion-dweller who writes songs chastizing "the man" and his bureaucracies. Someone can call all of that "schtick," but I call it part of what makes them each interesting as people and songwriters.
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whatev, dude. you are wrong. rock on.
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I don't think Amber and Hillary were so much "defending Stevie's honor," as wondering why the two women need to be compared.
Yes, Erica mentioned wondering if perhaps her professor meant "Stevie" when he said "Christine," but it really didn't have to lead into a comparison of the two. From what I read in their posts, all Hillary and Amber were trying to say... which is something I'd think all Christine fans would be on board with... is that Christine does not need to be compared to Stevie in order to be praised or complimented. Nor does Stevie's appeal need to be dissmissed in order for Christine to look good. Christine can, and should, stand on her own merits. And if Homer's tired of hearing about Stevie so often on Christine's Forum, he shouldn't take so many opportunities to mention her.
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I will say that I disagree about Christine. As a social worker, and a co-dependent, I've noticed over the years that once a co-dependent, always a co-dependent. Maybe that's a reason why I like Christine so much. I can personally relate to wanting whoever to finally do the right thing. I could get screwed a thousand times, but I'd still hope for a happy ending. So that's not so much schtick, but a personality flaw. Sadly many have this flaw, which is again another reason why so many can relate to her words. Personally, I don't really try to understand or analyze what Stevie's saying in a lot of her songs. I just sit back and enjoy it. To do otherwise would require a few beers and a Little Orphan Annie decoder ring, and I don't have that kind of time. Instead, I enjoy her songs like I would an abstract painting, and just appreciate it for what it is. However, I do that because I really enjoy her music. For some it's just a taste they never acquire. Her music is just something they really don't understand and can't relate to.
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