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Old 06-26-2022, 03:29 PM
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I cant believe we are debating guitar replacements would bring in a bigger crowd or get more applause. None of the above. Most people are there to see Stevie and have no interest in who the guitarist is. I wish we could do a social experiment and sell tickets in the same city for various guitarists. There would be an insignificant change. I am sure there were many like me that did not go because Lindsey was not there. But once the replacements were hired, that crowd was baked in.
I keep reading how the crowd went wild for Dont Dream Its Over. Not sure there are mass Crowded House fans packing arenas today. Seriously people are commenting that they saw more cellphones or applause? That is your measurement?
Stevie's 24K Gold show would attract almost the same amount of patrons if not more. The real test would be remove Stevie and see what you have. Petty fans were not going to see Fleetwood Mac. Sorry. Most of them were not happy that Mike did it and thought it ruined Petty's legacy.
Even the members of Fleetwood Mac know this otherwise they would not walk on eggshells when the boss gives an ultimatum.
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Those are *your* rules, though. Most people donít agree.

Fleetwood Mac is in the entertainment business. DDIO and at least one Tom Petty song were foregone conclusions when the lineup was announced. You donít bring guys of that caliber in the band and ignore their legendary bodies of work.
I couldn't care less what the masses think.
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Most people don't agree that Free Fallin' is a Stevie Nicks song either just because she recorded it for a tv show soundtrack but that's your rule.

What's up with the "*"? Why are you writing "Those are *your* rules, though." I wrote "I feel or I think" to express my thoughts. You are so quick to argue with anything that's not praise for the 2018 Tour. I went to shows on that tour. They even had a shirt with the names of all the albums on it. I didn't care for the shows. What's the problem with that? I also didn't care for OWTS. Are you pleased with that? Just don't understand why you're not kind.

If they're in the entertainment business, then why did they not do Fleetwood Mac hits or classics as Sara, I Don't Want to Know, Over My Head, Songbird, Never Going Back Again, Tusk, or In the Back of My Mind. Do people not know those songs?
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If FM had played As Long As You Follow, In the Back of My Mind, and Say You Will, I would have lost my mind LOL. Especially the first two songs you mentioned. Really, I think it would have been better if Stevie and Christine had performed As Long As You Follow together rather than All Over Again. Lost opportunity. That is a beautiful song, itís on both of their greatest hits albums, and it would have served the same purpose as All Over Again, only the audience would have responded to it more favorably, to say the least.
I would have settled for three from BTM over any from SYW. I think with Lindsey not there, they had an opportunity to represent BTM and the compilation songs. Say You Will was on the 50 Years compilation so that's why I threw that in.
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So you're saying Neil and Mike brought some magic to the band that Rick and Billy didn't?
Nope. I didn't want them there either. But if I had to choose, I'd take them back over Billy any day.
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Nope. I didn't want them there either. But if I had to choose, I'd take them back over Billy any day.
Nobody here likes Billy. I've peed beside the man, and he's a good guy. And a good singer. Billy deserves some love here.
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Nobody here likes Billy. I've peed beside the man, and he's a good guy. And a good singer. Billy deserves some love here.
I would take Rick and Billy over Neil and Mike any day and I'm a huge Heartbreaker fan. I do not like Rick and Billy's singing but hold on a second (before you start flaming). One of the best songs on BTM is Billy's song! I also liked the 1990 Farewell concert better than the Dance. Having said that I always thought Billy's singing on Go Your Own Way and Dont Stop was nails down a chalkboard. I of course prefer Lindsey with the band and like Lindsey's singing. I think that is the minority opinion around here (Lindsey's singing). But I cant quite put my finger on why I liked the Billy/Rick era. Stevie was klonopinned out too. I suppose its because Chris was holding the band together and we didnt have to deal with the Stevie/Lindsey drama. Stevie was almost an afterthought with the band since none of her songs were singles during this era. Many were like "oh Stevie is still with that band?".

So there were definite perks to this era despite no commercial success.

Now the answer we deserve to know. Were you pee shy around Billy?
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I would take Rick and Billy over Neil and Mike any day and I'm a huge Heartbreaker fan. I do not like Rick and Billy's singing but hold on a second (before you start flaming). One of the best songs on BTM is Billy's song! I also liked the 1990 Farewell concert better than the Dance. Having said that I always thought Billy's singing on Go Your Own Way and Dont Stop was nails down a chalkboard. I of course prefer Lindsey with the band and like Lindsey's singing. I think that is the minority opinion around here (Lindsey's singing). But I cant quite put my finger on why I liked the Billy/Rick era. Stevie was klonopinned out too. I suppose its because Chris was holding the band together and we didnt have to deal with the Stevie/Lindsey drama. Stevie was almost an afterthought with the band since none of her songs were singles during this era. Many were like "oh Stevie is still with that band?".
So I was too young to have seen any of that era live but from what I've heard, I have to concur about Billy's singing. In particular on Lindsey's songs - Lindsey has a unique voice and Billy singing Go Your Own Way was as brutal as Neil Finn IMO. However, I love In the Back of My Mind and actually opening some of the shows with it in 1990 was a ballsy thing that Fleetwood Mac of the last 25 years would never consider.
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Nobody here likes Billy. I've peed beside the man, and he's a good guy. And a good singer. Billy deserves some love here.
I preferred Billy and Rick. They were more FM adjacent to me than Mike and Neil. Love Billy Burnette... The tours I saw in 1987/2000 ish.. fantastic shows. There were truly Shakin the Cage..
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So I was too young to have seen any of that era live but from what I've heard, I have to concur about Billy's singing. In particular on Lindsey's songs - Lindsey has a unique voice and Billy singing Go Your Own Way was as brutal as Neil Finn IMO. However, I love In the Back of My Mind and actually opening some of the shows with it in 1990 was a ballsy thing that Fleetwood Mac of the last 25 years would never consider.
I never liked 1987's The Chain. Visually it was spectacular almost Eagles like with 3 singers lined up on stage with a 4th behind keyboards singing all the parts. But vocally it did not sound great. I could be wrong but I think for their second tour in 1990, they just let Billy take over Lindsey's lead and it sounded better. Or at least a little better
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Now the answer we deserve to know. Were you pee shy around Billy?
No, I was already peeing when Billy walked in and went to the urinal next to mine.

And before you axe, no, I didn't peek.
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No, I was already peeing when Billy walked in and went to the urinal next to mine.

And before you axe, no, I didn't peek.
You should have busted into song.....you could have taken the Stevie parts on In The Back Of My Mind
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No, I was already peeing when Billy walked in and went to the urinal next to mine.

And before you axe, no, I didn't peek.
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