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Old 01-09-2011, 01:38 PM
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Thanks, slipkid. I didn't know that there was a site dedicated to this magnificent course, bless them....

I went and had a look at the page in question:

http://wipednews.com/2009/03/29/colo...sing-material/

Just think that the BBC had the nerve to erase ANYTHING from this Golden Age of British Music! Who the hell would make a decision like that??? What a loss!!!

A few years back we (here on The Ledge) were discussing the film from Njårdhallen, Oslo taped by NKR-TV on the 3rd of october 1969 (screened the next year). Some clips of it are on Youtube or on The Early Years video. The full concert might still be in the vaults according to - I think - ledgie dansven. Maybe other European countries have film, like Holland, Germany, Denmark, Sweden....???

There is a website for Free Festivals in the UK, where they are looking for film of The Bath Festival 28th of June 1969. There was a film crew there that day. And the description here gives a good idea of the problems of finding footage from these events. It has still photoes of FM:

http://www.ukrockfestivals.com/bA1.html

Oh Well....

Ms Moose

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Old 01-09-2011, 08:20 PM
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Just think that the BBC had the nerve to erase ANYTHING from this Golden Age of British Music! Who the hell would make a decision like that??? What a loss!!!

Maybe other European countries have film, like Holland, Germany, Denmark, Sweden....???
Yeah, well... Same problem over here in Holland. The Den Haag venue, shown on TV by NCRV (Netherlands Christian Radio Vereniging [Association]) has been erased as well. The Bas***ds!
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Old 01-10-2011, 01:12 AM
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Wouter,

I'm hoping that somewhere in Australia, or Canada, this footage still exists.


As for Amsterdam, or Norway, it's a long-shot.

That "Sugar Mama" from Holland 2/69 was shown on television??? I think my head just exploded.

I've played that song (bootleg) for Green fans, but more in the Hendrix/Clapton/Allman realm. They say it's on par with Jimi Hendrix.

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Old 01-10-2011, 12:09 PM
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Wouter,

That "Sugar Mama" from Holland 2/69 was shown on television??? I think my head just exploded.
SO DID MINE!!! With no "explosion smilies" a will have to do. Sugar Mama - Netherlands version - one of my favourite live recordings.
I am usually not a violent person, but this "erasing-footage business" makes me want to organize a posse.

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Old 01-10-2011, 01:16 PM
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Slipkid and MsMoose:
Don't worry, as I mentioned above, it was the Den Haag venue that was broadcasted on TV. They played Den Haag at appriximately 20:00 o'clock. Later, at 24:00 they played in Amsterdam. Sugar Mama was from the Amsterdam show, thus not in Den Haag, thus not on on TV, thus not erased, thus nothing to be mad about.
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Old 01-11-2011, 01:03 AM
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Slipkid and MsMoose:
Don't worry, as I mentioned above, it was the Den Haag venue that was broadcasted on TV. They played Den Haag at appriximately 20:00 o'clock. Later, at 24:00 they played in Amsterdam. Sugar Mama was from the Amsterdam show, thus not in Den Haag, thus not on on TV, thus not erased, thus nothing to be mad about.
Do you remember the Den Haag setlist? FM used to mix up their setlists for every concert (under Peter Green) since the band was formed which wasn't the norm in 1969.


Of course today the Grateful Dead are credited as ("pioneers") one of those bands that don't follow a "script" on tour. Even if Den Haag has an "Albatross", it's a still a tragic loss of visual, and musical content. If there wasn't a "Sugar Mama", there had to be another song that captured Peter Green's mood that night, because he was "on".
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Old 01-11-2011, 03:22 PM
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This is the information I have regarding FM in Holland 1969. Obviously they must have played longer, but this is all that has been broadcasted. Den Haag on TV, Amsterdam on radio.
I myself was there in De Doelen in Rotterdam. I do not have any vivid memories except for a long number where Mick bent over his hihat for a long time, and just kept on playing just the hihat. Must have been The Green Manalishi where Peter plays his 6-string bass. Also vague memories of a tiny fellow behind a guitar: Jeremy Spencer. I was only 18 then, and it was one of my few live concerts (really loved Pink Floyd show too). Memory fades "As the years go passing by" (Deadric Malone).
I now live in Groningen (since 1971). People I know that attended the Korenbeurs show have nice stories about how the show suddenly stopped because some dude in charge of facilities shut off the electricity because he didn't like the music and felt it was too loud.....

My favorite track? One Sided Love from Den Haag.

Anyway:

HOLLAND: THE HAGUE & AMSTERDAM, 1969-02-28
(Same tour: Korenbeurs, Groningen, 1969-03-01; De Doelen, Rotterdam, 1969-03-02)
Line-up: Peter Green : guitar, vocals Danny Kirwan : guitar, vocals
Jeremy Spencer : guitar, vocals John MacVie : bass guitar
Mick Fleetwood : drums
Tracks:
The Hague (Den Haag):
01. Introduction announcement
02. One Sided Love
03. Stop Messin’ Round *
04. San-Ho-Zay *
05. Albatross *
06. Tallahassie Lassie
07. Blue Suede Shoes *
08. Teenage Darlin’ (just the bass guitar)
09. Twist And Shout
Amsterdam:
10. Introduction announcement
11. Merry Go Round *
12. One Sided Love *
13. Dust My Broom *
14. Got To Move *
15. “Green Thoughts” *
16. Sugar Mama *
17. I Can’t Hold Out *
18. Tallahassie Lassie

Comments: Live bootleg

Recording quality : B
Playing quality : B

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* tracks released on bootlegs “Live in Amsterdam” and “Roughage 69”.
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