2016 - what will LB do?

[elle]

i was happy to see some names popping into the 2014 thread that i haven't seen on TL in a long, long time. so maybe it's time to revive LB forum a bit, instead of just discussing his current endeavors in the Rumours forum.


for starters, since we know 2015 is pretty much booked with FM-related stuff, i would like to focus beyond this year, on 2016.

this is a multiple choice poll - vote for everything you think will happen:

a) FM album will finally come out in 2015, wrapping up current FM activities before the start of 2016
b) LB will tour solo in 2016
c) LB will work on new solo album in 2016
d) LB will work with other non-FM related artists on their projects in 2016
e) LB will take a year off in 2016

at a recent On With the Show stop in DC, a friend of mine made these signs, which we held up during the show. LB loved them and commented how well thought-through and astute the signs were, and that he can completely see 2016 as being back to solo year:


i guess there is a slight possibility that he can work on some side project with Christine, or, some type of BN project, but i don't see either of these anywhere high up on the list if they finally manage to put out that FM album. any of his work with Christine is best labeled FM, whether or not there are 4 or 5 FM members present.

also, there may be a slight possibility that FM will decide to tour their new album if they manage to release it. from the recent band members' statements, i don't see that tour happening any time soon either... unless Mick manages to throw away really fast all millions he's making on the OWTS tour.

[bombaysaffires]

wasn't sure how to vote, because I'm not convinced the FM album will be wrapped up and released by the close of 2015-

The FM tour doesn't end til midway thru 2015. I envision they will take some sort of short break/vacations and then get back to the album. Knowing how long this stuff always seems to take them, I'd be thrilled to bits if they get the RECORDING of the new album done by close of 2015, and would faint from excitement if they were mixing or done the mixing by close of 2015.

So I would see 2016 starting out with getting the album finished mixing, the cover photos etc and then a bunch of media promoting it-- tv interviews, blah blah blah.

I do (hope to) see Lindsey solo work getting underway at some time in 2016, hopefully by spring.

I don't know if I'm just a little cynical about this band or just hedging my bets, so if we get more it's a bonus rather than setting expectations too high and getting disappointed.

[louielouie2000]

It sounds to me like Lindsey's #1 priority right now is a new album with Fleetwood Mac. I suspect he will quarantine himself until that happens. He did his 3 solo albums in a row, dabbled with other artists, and now he's itching to have some creative forward momentum with the band. If that falls through (possibly because Stevie keeps kicking the ball further down the road), I can see Lindsey starting to coalesce new solo material. However, I still think he will continue to hold out releasing his own work until the band finishes theirs. He's been pushing for a new album from them for what, 6 years now?

[elle]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

wasn't sure how to vote, because I'm not convinced the FM album will be wrapped up and released by the close of 2015-

The FM tour doesn't end til midway thru 2015. I envision they will take some sort of short break/vacations and then get back to the album. Knowing how long this stuff always seems to take them, I'd be thrilled to bits if they get the RECORDING of the new album done by close of 2015, and would faint from excitement if they were mixing or done the mixing by close of 2015.

So I would see 2016 starting out with getting the album finished mixing, the cover photos etc and then a bunch of media promoting it-- tv interviews, blah blah blah.

I do (hope to) see Lindsey solo work getting underway at some time in 2016, hopefully by spring.

I don't know if I'm just a little cynical about this band or just hedging my bets, so if we get more it's a bonus rather than setting expectations too high and getting disappointed.

i actually agree with everything you wrote, and when i was clicking to add my vote for album being wrapped before 2016, i had to work hard against my more cynical (or realistic?) nature. but i am willing it to happen in 2015!

and i agree, that we'd be lucky if he gets any solo work underway by the spring 2016, and FM album etc doesn't spill well into 2016.

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

It sounds to me like Lindsey's #1 priority right now is a new album with Fleetwood Mac. I suspect he will quarantine himself until that happens. He did his 3 solo albums in a row, dabbled with other artists, and now he's itching to have some creative forward momentum with the band. If that falls through (possibly because Stevie keeps kicking the ball further down the road), I can see Lindsey starting to coalesce new solo material. However, I still think he will continue to hold out releasing his own work until the band finishes theirs. He's been pushing for a new album from them for what, 6 years now?

agree (again!) with everything you wrote. still choose to be optimistic that other / solo stuff will also happen in 2016. it's a year away!

yeah he's been pushing this new FM album since 2009. in 2010 SN said no, not interested in making new music with FM, and did a solo album. so LB had some unexpected time and filled it with recording SWS. in 2012, SN again said no to FM album, but by the end of the year agreed on issuing some of the new LB songs plus her very, very old song as FM EP. and in 2014, she said no for the third time, once again putting a solo project ahead of FM, even though now Christine was back and very willing to work on new FM album.

it's interesting that SN's output since 2010 does not seem to have any new music written by her (please correct if wrong, i'm obviously not that well versed in her output, this is just what's on wikipedia). so maybe that's main roadblock for her, worry that she will not be able contribute any new music to FM (in DR doc she was very proud of writing bunch of new songs for SYW - is that batch the last new music she wrote that was released?), and she feels she should? and unlike Christine and Lindsey, she's not, for whatever reason, open to collaborating with either one of them and co-writing some new songs as a band.

[secret love]

Originally Posted by elle

i actually agree with everything you wrote, and when i was clicking to add my vote for album being wrapped before 2016, i had to work hard against my more cynical (or realistic?) nature. but i am willing it to happen in 2015!

and i agree, that we'd be lucky if he gets any solo work underway by the spring 2016, and FM album etc doesn't spill well into 2016.


agree (again!) with everything you wrote. still choose to be optimistic that other / solo stuff will also happen in 2016. it's a year away!

yeah he's been pushing this new FM album since 2009. in 2010 SN said no, not interested in making new music with FM, and did a solo album. so LB had some unexpected time and filled it with recording SWS. in 2012, SN again said no to FM album, but by the end of the year agreed on issuing some of the new LB songs plus her very, very old song as FM EP. and in 2014, she said no for the third time, once again putting a solo project ahead of FM, even though now Christine was back and very willing to work on new FM album.

it's interesting that SN's output since 2010 does not seem to have any new music written by her (please correct if wrong, i'm obviously not that well versed in her output, this is just what's on wikipedia). so maybe that's main roadblock for her, worry that she will not be able contribute any new music to FM (in DR doc she was very proud of writing bunch of new songs for SYW - is that batch the last new music she wrote that was released?), and she feels she should? and unlike Christine and Lindsey, she's not, for whatever reason, open to collaborating with either one of them and co-writing some new songs as a band.

I'm quite sure that In Your Dreams album contained a stack of new songs, not just old, unreleased demos. Some examples are For What It's Worth, In Your Dreams, Everybody Loves You, You May Be The One, Italian Summer, Cheaper Than Free...which I think were all written in 2010

The lyrics to the song I Don't Care on 24 Karat Gold were, except for the chorus, written this year by Stevie Nicks.

I don't think we can really explain away Stevie's non-participation so far as a classic case of writer's block because she is quite proud of the fact that she writes something new every day of her life - not necessarily complete songs, but poems or general thoughts that later turn into songs.

Given all the hype Lindsey and Christine have created about a new Fleetwood Mac album...all the talk about at least 8 new songs...and given how little work Stevie Nicks would need to contribute to this new studio album, I really do think she will be participating eventually. I also think that she will delay her studio work with Fleetwood Mac as long as is reasonably possible.

If they give her an ultimatum that they will release a new album without her featured on it, if she chooses not to participate...then I'm sure she would get into the studio with them as quick as a flash.

[elle]

Originally Posted by secret love

I'm quite sure that In Your Dreams album contained a stack of new songs, not just old, unreleased demos. Some examples are For What It's Worth, In Your Dreams, Everybody Loves You, You May Be The One, Italian Summer, Cheaper Than Free...which I think were all written in 2010

The lyrics to the song I Don't Care on 24 Karat Gold were, except for the chorus, written this year by Stevie Nicks.

they are new songs, but the music is not written by SN, if wikipedia is to be believed. all new music was attributed to either Dave Stewart, Mike Campbell, Neale Heywood, or in the case of that Sound City song, Dave Grohl. SN's contributions seem to be only lyrics, for anything after 2003 or so.

Originally Posted by secret love

If they give her an ultimatum that they will release a new album without her featured on it, if she chooses not to participate...then I'm sure she would get into the studio with them as quick as a flash.

yes, i really hope they'll finally decide wait is not worth it, artistically, and release all that new music as fast as possible.

also, and unfortunately, as far as advertising goes, SN's team is lightning years ahead of the rest of FM (they seem to be in the stone age, if judging by EP), so that album will not get the attention it probably deserves.

[Dragon]

A Fleetwood Mac EP or LP is not going to be released this year. The band needs to make decisions in regards to recording and touring.

Lindsey can easily release EPs and LPs. He has more material that a single Fleetwood Mac or solo release could handle. He could release a solo LP in the spring, tour in the summer, then focus on Fleetwood Mac in the fall and 2017.

[louielouie2000]

It's so depressing that this thread was started a year ago, and essentially none of the options on the poll came to pass. It's making me question what we can realistically expect for 2016, too. Will Stevie cave and agree to a FM album? Will she insist on doing some solo stuff first? If so, how long will that take? Will Lindsey just sit around and wait for that to conclude? Or will he return to the studio with Christine, and hope that Stevie will join them? I think the one option I just can't see happening is Lindsey returning to his solo career; at least not while the prospect of a Mac album is still a glimmer of a hope. It's beginning to look like 2016 might be a non-event in the Mac world...

[elle]

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

It's so depressing that this thread was started a year ago, and essentially none of the options on the poll came to pass. It's making me question what we can realistically expect for 2016, too. Will Stevie cave and agree to a FM album? Will she insist on doing some solo stuff first? If so, how long will that take? Will Lindsey just sit around and wait for that to conclude? Or will he return to the studio with Christine, and hope that Stevie will join them? I think the one option I just can't see happening is Lindsey returning to his solo career; at least not while the prospect of a Mac album is still a glimmer of a hope. It's beginning to look like 2016 might be a non-event in the Mac world...

i agree with you on the depressing part. always funny (and gloomy!!) to read these predictions from a while ago, only to discover things basically didn't move an inch in all the time that passed in between.

however, i really hope you are wrong about the bolded part - if history from the last few years can teach us anything, that's exactly what LB did each time when they started on an FM project and SN dragged her feet - he did another solo project while waiting.

i can't imagine him going into studio with Christine and adding even more songs than they already have since he knows they will not let him put out a double album. so why not take some of those songs he accumulated in all the years waiting for Nicks (plus we know he worked on additional songs both on the tour and during breaks they had), put some of them out as a solo project and do a short tour?

it seems pretty obvious that FM album if it somehow does materialize and [completely unlikely] come out in 2016 would have to be towards the end of the year, so there is plenty of time for SN to tour solo and LB to do several solo projects.

unless LB and Christine would do something together?! i would be definitely interested in that project (but not see it happening at all)!

[elle]

Originally Posted by Dragon

Lindsey can easily release EPs and LPs. He has more material that a single Fleetwood Mac or solo release could handle. He could release a solo LP in the spring, tour in the summer, then focus on Fleetwood Mac in the fall and 2017.

sounds like a nice plan to me!

i'm thinking if he tours this year, late summer / early fall schedule could work.

[aleuzzi]

I wish he and Christine would keep plugging away at new music together and come up with enough for a whole Mac album and a side project. But I'll take anything by Lindsey. I'm assuming all his energies are channeled on the new Mac album, which has already been 1.5 years in the making.