Proposition 8 passes in California

[DavidMn]

This has me so worked up! Its unbelieveable to me that as a law abiding citizen of the United States of America I cannot by law choose to marry someone cimply because they are the same sex as I am. There's no other way to put this, IT MAKES NO SENSE and I'm damn pissed off by it! I was happy about what happened Tuesday, but there's still a long way to go believe me! I also heard that the marriages already performed there may be challenged in court as not valid.

[shackin'up]

It's ridiculous, Dave. It's a complete nobrainer.
Move to the Netherlands, you can marry anyone you love!

As a principle, this should be a common human right. On the other hand: who wants to marry anyway....? I love my girl to death, but marrying her? what's the point? We are happy together for 18 years. Unmarried.

[DavidMn]

Originally Posted by shackin'up

It's ridiculous, Dave. It's a complete nobrainer.
Move to the Netherlands, you can marry anyone you love!

As a principle, this should be a common human right. On the other hand: who wants to marry anyway....? I love my girl to death, but marrying her? what's the point? We are happy together for 18 years. Unmarried.

You know what Gerald, you make a very good point. Even though I'm currently single, when I was with my ex Derek for 3 years the thing that mattered most to me was how I felt about him which is something no amendment or anything else can take from me no matter what!

[mylittledemon]

This is such a touchy subject. Until the definition of marriage gets changed, nothing is going to change. Not only that, BUT, it's always going to come up as a vote...and if even the Californians have voted it down..? Makes you wonder.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by mylittledemon

This is such a touchy subject. Until the definition of marriage gets changed, nothing is going to change. Not only that, BUT, it's always going to come up as a vote...and if even the Californians have voted it down..? Makes you wonder.

I do not get how it is touchy. Looking at the situation objectively, the only issue is the religious people in the US want automatic legal rights for themselves and not other people who go against their religion.

Again, I have yet to hear one reason other than the religious argument against same sex marriage.

But and despite the clear mandate for the separation of church and state in the US Const. -- people are loathe to admit that they are forcing their religion down peoples' throats.

Put it this way, the majority of blacks and hispanics in this country (and likely many whites and Muslims) set aside their religious objections to abortion to vote for Obama. Yet, these same people hypocrticially stood on alleged piety and voted to ban gay marriage. Makes you wonder doesn't it?

[chiliD]

Let the litigation begin. I believe Prop 8 will be overturned in the courts...just like Prop 22 was after the last election.

[mylittledemon]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I do not get how it is touchy. Looking at the situation objectively, the only issue is the religious people in the US want automatic legal rights for themselves and not other people who go against their religion.

Again, I have yet to hear one reason other than the religious argument against same sex marriage.

But and despite the clear mandate for the separation of church and state in the US Const. -- people are loathe to admit that they are forcing their religion down peoples' throats.

Put it this way, the majority of blacks and hispanics in this country (and likely many whites and Muslims) set aside their religious objections to abortion to vote for Obama. Yet, these same people hypocrticially stood on alleged piety and voted to ban gay marriage. Makes you wonder doesn't it?

Well you're deluded, that's why you dont get why it's touchy (big wink!)

haha...you forget that you can still get married in this country with no "religious" aspect to your wedding or the ceremony officiant...

No the abortion/gay marriage thing doesnt make me wonder. It's all part of what I was saying in another thread that America seemingly has gone down a path of making the wrong choices. We continue to do so. I think sometimes we take our freedom for granted. Freedom in America doesn't necessarily mean "anything goes."

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by DavidMn

This has me so worked up! Its unbelieveable to me that as a law abiding citizen of the United States of America I cannot by law choose to marry someone cimply because they are the same sex as I am. There's no other way to put this, IT MAKES NO SENSE and I'm damn pissed off by it! I was happy about what happened Tuesday, but there's still a long way to go believe me! I also heard that the marriages already performed there may be challenged in court as not valid.

Quick to judge,
Quick to anger,
Slow to understand
Ignorance and prejudice
And fear walk hand in hand... Neil Peart...


dont give up David.. I certainly won't

[BombaySapphire3]

Naturally I voted no on 8 but I'm personally glad that gay marriage was not legal 25 years ago when I embarked upon the first of 4 failed long term relationships.The thought of the attorny's fees, alimony and divorce court from all that gives me a chill even now.I know when enough is enough so I have no plans to marry ,cohabitate ,or engage in a civil union with anyone.

[strandinthewind]

^^^^^^^^^

Bitter - party of one

[estranged4life]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

Quick to judge,
Quick to anger,
Slow to understand
Ignorance and prejudice
And fear walk hand in hand... Neil Peart...


dont give up David.. I certainly won't

"Witch Hunt" by Rush, a song whose lyrical content STILL resonantes in this modern era of hate.