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the Peter/Chris/Danny/John/Mick Mac
I've never seen any pictures of the version of the band that toured briefly after Jeremy left in 1971. Does anybody have any? I've always thought of this version of the Mac as the sixth incarnation but Pete Frame and others seem to relegate it to being part of the fifth, which as that included Jeremy doesn't make much sense to me...
Of course, this would mean that the Rumours incarnation would then be the 11th, unless you count Doug Graves as a member and it would be the 12th.... but I digress Even better, are there any boots out there of Peter's brief return? I had thought that all they did were extended jams based on Black Magic Woman but I'm often wrong. There is something on youtube which claims to be of this period, but I have my doubts- see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17bqd4R9b7c for example. It's a great version of Tell me all the things you do, though. |
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Yes, the YouTube track you linked is most likely from the show stated there, Swing Auditorium in San Bernardino on 2/19/71. That was the first show with Peter Green and Nigel Watson with the band after Jeremy Spencer's departure. Spencer''s absence can be felt most clearly on the tracks we have from this show by Christine McVie taking over his vocal parts on "The Purple Dancer." "Station Man" and "Tell Me All The Things You Do" from this show first surfaced on the 1970s Merely A Portmanteau vinyl bootleg.
As far as I know, there are three partial shows that have turned up on bootlegs from the period of Peter Green's return to the band in early 1971: Fleetwood Mac – San Bernardino, 2/19/71 Station Man Get Like You Used To Be Dragonfly The Purple Dancer I’d Rather Go Blind Tell Me All The Things You Do Fleetwood Mac – Fillmore East, New York City, 2/26/71 I’d Rather Go Blind Jam Station Man Jam Fleetwood Mac – Rock Pile, Long Island, 3/27/71 Jam As with many bootlegs, the actual venues and dates are just what has been listed, and there's little way to tell if those are accurate, but they may well be correct. The sound quality of the San Bernardino tracks is pretty good, while the sound quality from the other two shows is as bad as it gets, nearly unlistenable. As the San Bernardino show was Green's first during that tour, he stayed pretty much in the background and I'd assume the band played as much of their usual set as they could handle with respect to Spencer's sudden departure and with Green's and Watson's arrival very shortly before the show. From the bootlegs that have survived, it does look like they did more jamming later in the tour, though it was not strictly jamming. And it's really not that you're wrong about that - it's what has been written about those shows and handed down as fact, but these bootlegs show it was not the case. In regard to your first question, I've never seen any photos of the band from this tour either, though you'd think some would exist. |
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Considering the circumstances, that San Bernardino show sounds pretty good (the performance...the recording quality isn't all that great, however)
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BTW, I think all of these performances may be on YouTube these days.
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Well, I'm more convinced now that those cuts on You Tube are from that first San Bernadino show. Peter's playing is very subtle in places- Dragonfly at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoip-Rnsm4s I like especially. The less said about Chris's vocals on Purple Dancer, the better, however! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etBRc_RUZx4) |
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Last edited by welcomechris; 03-10-2014 at 05:28 PM.. |
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Bob Welch
Why does it say Peter, John, Mick and Chris in 71? Peter wasn't in the band then and Chris had just joined and Bob Welch was definitely in the band in "71. How many people want to act like he wasn't in the band from '71-75 and didn't write and sing half the songs on five albums, as well as play the guitar and sing backup on all of them, during that period?
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Just read about the gold lamme suits that Bob saw when he walked in the door for the first time and then read what he saw in terms of individuals in the band. What we're talking about was really the end of the original Fleetwood Mac. It was the last of the original.
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Chris McVie
But Chris McVie just joined less than a year before Bob and Bob joined and was recorded in 1971
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The line-up was: Danny, Christine, John, Mick and Peter (+Nigel Watson). Is that so hard to understand?? |
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You've made your point, but a little civility costs nothing.
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Was it one question mark too much?
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Perhaps a brief history lesson may be in order here (from elsewhere on this website):
http://www.fleetwoodmac.net/fwm/inde...d=38&Itemid=51 Quote:
Last edited by sharksfan2000; 03-13-2014 at 09:09 AM.. |
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thanks sf2k - a welcome history lesson or refresher as the case may be. i'd forgotten about yankee bastards! who's got the pete frame family tree for fleetwood mac? those are excellent z |
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