Woody Woodpecker goes McCain

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by ajmccarrell

. . . Also considering the statements of one of the members of the state senate committee that he intended the results to be an "October Surprise", it is no longer an investigation about her actions, but it has morphed into some kind of Kenneth Starr like investigation meant to bring down a politician more than find any truth in a possible misconduct investigation. The investigation has become politicised on a national level and in no way bears any resemblance to what it started out as being . . . .

Once again, you ignore and/or distort the facts. Below is what French. None of it supports your statement that French "intended" any Oct. surprise. French, instead, was commenting on the likely outcome of the investigation based on the information they have so far and then issued a plea for the Gov. to do what she said she was going to do. That is far from intending an outcome.

Moreover, just exactly how did the investigation "become politicised on a national level and in no way bears any resemblance to what it started out as being?" It is the same investigators sanctioned by those eight R's and the investigation seeks the same information for the same people via the same path. None of that has changed. The only thing that has changed is the RNC got involved and they see a potential scandal as noted by the former R US Atty., who advised Palin

Now, go play in your room ( a joke for those seemingly always whining about being on the cross )

'October Surprise' Over Palin Investigation?

"Likely Damaging" Report on Governor Scheduled for Release Days Before November Election

By BRIAN ROSS and LEN TEPPER

Sept. 2, 2008—

Is the McCain campaign afraid of an 'October surprise' involving vice-presidential pick Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska?

The Alaska state senator running an investigation of Gov. Palin says the McCain campaign is using stall tactics to prevent him from releasing his final report by Oct. 31, four days before the November election.

"It's likely to be damaging to the Governor's administration," said Senator Hollis French, a Democrat, appointed the project manager for a bi-partisan State Senate Legislative Counsel Committee investigation of claims that Palin abused her office to get the Alaska public safety commissioner, Walt Monegan, fired.

Palin, who has denied any wrongdoing and has said she has nothing to hide, has hired private lawyers to represent her in the matter.

French says that his investigation has been going smoothly before she brought in her attorneys.

"Until then, the Governor used state lawyers and everything was fine," said Sen. French.

"That's wrong," said a spokesperson for the McCain campaign, Brian Rogers.

"The attorney was hired by the state Department of Law weeks ago, as part of the official duty to defend the governor," said Roger, and "obviously had nothing to do with either the McCain campaign."

A team of McCain campaign operatives arrived in Anchorage over the weekend "to help coordinate" her vice-presidential campaign, according to a McCain campaign official.

In a letter sent on Friday, Gov. Palin's new lawyer, Thomas V. Van Flein, requested a full list of documents, other evidence and witness statements from the Senate's investigation.

Senator French responded "it would be highly unusual for an investigator to share information with one of the targets of the investigation."

French said he still wanted to take testimony from Governor Palin sometime in September about allegations she wanted the public safety commissioner to fire her ex-brother-in-law following a messy divorce to her sister.

"The Governor first issued a blanket denial but now she's had to back down and that's a problem," said French. "She has a credibility problem," he said.

French says the investigation will also seek to learn how the Governor's office obtained confidential information from her ex-brother-in-law's personnel file.

"If she was involved, it would be a violation of state law," said French.

The controversy over the firing of public safety commissioner Monegan has been simmering for months in Alaska. Monegan has alleged he was fired because he rebuffed pressure from the Governor and her husband to dismiss her brother-in-law who served as a state trooper.

Palin says that she dismissed Monegan over an honest disagreement over budget priorities.

French says the McCain campaign failed to contact any of the Senators involved in the investigation during the vetting process of Gov. Palin.

"If they had done their job they never would have picked her," said French. "Now they may have to deal with an October surprise," he said, referring to the scheduled release Oct. 31 of the committee's final report.

Meanwhile, at a campaign stop today in Philadelphia, McCain told reporters that Palin was thoroughly checked out by his staff before being tapped.

"My vetting process was completely thorough and I'm grateful for the results," said McCain.

The report is a preliminary step prior to any effort to impeach the Governor, said French.

"That will be for the legislature to decide," he said.

McCain campaign officials say they were aware of the "trooper thing" but did not consider it an impediment to her selection as the running mate.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=5702697&page=1

[ajmccarrell]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Once again, you ignore and/or distort the facts. Below is what French. None of it supports your statement that French "intended" any Oct. surprise. French, instead, was commenting on the likely outcome of the investigation based on the information they have so far and then issued a plea for the Gov. to do what she said she was going to do. That is far from intending an outcome.

Moreover, just exactly how did the investigation "become politicised on a national level and in no way bears any resemblance to what it started out as being?" It is the same investigators sanctioned by those eight R's and the investigation seeks the same information for the same people via the same path. None of that has changed. The only thing that has changed is the RNC got involved and they see a potential scandal as noted by the former R US Atty., who advised Palin

Now, go play in your room ( a joke for those seemingly always whining about being on the cross )

'October Surprise' Over Palin Investigation?

"Likely Damaging" Report on Governor Scheduled for Release Days Before November Election

By BRIAN ROSS and LEN TEPPER

Sept. 2, 2008—

Is the McCain campaign afraid of an 'October surprise' involving vice-presidential pick Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska?

The Alaska state senator running an investigation of Gov. Palin says the McCain campaign is using stall tactics to prevent him from releasing his final report by Oct. 31, four days before the November election.

"It's likely to be damaging to the Governor's administration," said Senator Hollis French, a Democrat, appointed the project manager for a bi-partisan State Senate Legislative Counsel Committee investigation of claims that Palin abused her office to get the Alaska public safety commissioner, Walt Monegan, fired.

Palin, who has denied any wrongdoing and has said she has nothing to hide, has hired private lawyers to represent her in the matter.

French says that his investigation has been going smoothly before she brought in her attorneys.

"Until then, the Governor used state lawyers and everything was fine," said Sen. French.

"That's wrong," said a spokesperson for the McCain campaign, Brian Rogers.

"The attorney was hired by the state Department of Law weeks ago, as part of the official duty to defend the governor," said Roger, and "obviously had nothing to do with either the McCain campaign."

A team of McCain campaign operatives arrived in Anchorage over the weekend "to help coordinate" her vice-presidential campaign, according to a McCain campaign official.

In a letter sent on Friday, Gov. Palin's new lawyer, Thomas V. Van Flein, requested a full list of documents, other evidence and witness statements from the Senate's investigation.

Senator French responded "it would be highly unusual for an investigator to share information with one of the targets of the investigation."

French said he still wanted to take testimony from Governor Palin sometime in September about allegations she wanted the public safety commissioner to fire her ex-brother-in-law following a messy divorce to her sister.

"The Governor first issued a blanket denial but now she's had to back down and that's a problem," said French. "She has a credibility problem," he said.

French says the investigation will also seek to learn how the Governor's office obtained confidential information from her ex-brother-in-law's personnel file.

"If she was involved, it would be a violation of state law," said French.

The controversy over the firing of public safety commissioner Monegan has been simmering for months in Alaska. Monegan has alleged he was fired because he rebuffed pressure from the Governor and her husband to dismiss her brother-in-law who served as a state trooper.

Palin says that she dismissed Monegan over an honest disagreement over budget priorities.

French says the McCain campaign failed to contact any of the Senators involved in the investigation during the vetting process of Gov. Palin.

"If they had done their job they never would have picked her," said French. "Now they may have to deal with an October surprise," he said, referring to the scheduled release Oct. 31 of the committee's final report.

Meanwhile, at a campaign stop today in Philadelphia, McCain told reporters that Palin was thoroughly checked out by his staff before being tapped.

"My vetting process was completely thorough and I'm grateful for the results," said McCain.

The report is a preliminary step prior to any effort to impeach the Governor, said French.

"That will be for the legislature to decide," he said.

McCain campaign officials say they were aware of the "trooper thing" but did not consider it an impediment to her selection as the running mate.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=5702697&page=1

The article you posted indicates that French has already determined the outcome of the investigation, so that bolsters my point, it doesn't diminish it. As far as sharing things with the target goes, working for the justice department you should know this, they have to share because of due process laws and because of discovery procedures. The congress and senate of any state, as well as nationally, are considered valid courts of law, so before any findings are given, the Palins need to be given a chance to respond to the evidence. What you posted appears to be exactly what I said: French has politicised the investigation because he knows he now has a national stage. Also, the media downplays what exactly it was that Wooten did to have Palin's ire. He admitted he tazered a 10 year old boy and was "suspended". If you or I had done this, we'd be sitting in prison for a VERY long time. There is obviously more to this than we know.

[ajmccarrell]

Troopergate could dog Palin on campaign

By STEVE QUINN – 5 days ago

ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) — Troopergate. It's a political he-said, she-said that has dogged Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin for nearly two months and is likely to do so for another two months leading to the Nov. 4 presidential election.

The little-known vice presidential candidate faces accusations of firing public safety commissioner Walt Monegan in what amounts to a messy Palin family drama dating to her pre-gubernatorial days. Monegan had refused to fire a state trooper who had divorced Palin's sister.

The accuser is blogger and rental car executive Andrew Halcro, a Republican-turned-Independent who lost to Palin in the 2006 governor's race.

The accused is Palin, the rising Republican star with a clean-hands reputation who has the most to lose.

The man in the middle is former commissioner, Monegan, who says Palin never told him to fire the trooper, but he felt pressure to do so from members of her administration.

Then there's trooper Mike Wooten, who used a Taser on his stepson, Palin's nephew Payton. Wooten has been reprimanded for violating nearly a dozen laws and departmental policies since December 2001.

It's now in the hands of a state-hired investigator working for a Republican-dominated legislative committee that hopes to sort out the mess. ...

It began with a July 17 blog posting from Halcro, whose accusations gained momentum when Monegan publicly said he felt pressure from Palin's administration to fire Wooten.

A few days later, the state approved $100,000 to hire an outside investigator, former Anchorage prosecutor Stephen Branchflower, to look into the firing

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h...0SHtgD92TUDS80'

The main accuser was a guy who had political reasons to dog Palin. Just as I said.

[ajmccarrell]

Palin's October Surprise
Trooper Gate

Posted by: JimNanceatLasVegas

Saturday, September 13, 2008 at 03:25PM

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On Oct. 10th, the Alaskan Democrat ran investigation of Palin will released its report. Obviously, they will do anything to damage Palin. Here are some points about the Kangaroo Court that is running the invesigation of Palin:

The Democrat State Senator running the investigation has said that the investigation will be an October surprise and will be damaging to Palin. How does he know that unless the outcome is already planned by him?

The lead investigator and the Democrat State Senator in-charge of the investigation have conflicts of interest because both are friends with the commissioner that Palin fired. Neither man disclosed this fact before the investigation started.

There is a picture of the three top Democratic investigators meeting in Obama’s Alaska headquarters.

The lead investigator has expanded the investigation beyond its authorized scope and has opened a tip line to get any rumors and gossip of dirt to add to his report.

The investigator is planning to use testimony from known anti-Palin political enemies who are offering hearsay that is not supported by any other evidence.

The final report will be written by the same Democratic State Senator that has already has found Palin guilty before he has received a report from the lead investigator.

The investigator is conducting secret depositions that Palin’s lawyer will not be able to see until after the report is released by the bias Democrat State Senator.

This whole thing is about a trooper who has already admitted to using a taser on his own 11 year-old step-son but he has never been charged on assault charges or disciplined for that tasering.

Here is some contact information:

Democrat in-charge of the committee:

Senator Kim Elton Senator_Kim_Elton@legis.state.ak.us State Capitol, Room 506 Juneau, AK 99801-1182 907-465-4947 fax: 907-465-2108

Democrat in-charge of investigation

Senator Hollis French Senator_Hollis_French@legis.state.ak.us State Capitol, Room 417 Juneau, AK 99801-1182 907-465-3892 866-465-3892 fax: 907-465-6595

[ajmccarrell]

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=233248&src=110

Lawmaker accused of politicizing Palin probe
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(3) | read | post Buzz up! ANCHORAGE, Alaska -- A Republican lawmaker wants the Democrat overseeing an investigation into Gov. Sarah Palin's dismissal of her public safety commissioner removed because he seems intent on damaging her vice presidential candidacy.

Democratic state Sen. Hollis French "appears to be steering the direction of the investigation, its conclusion and its timing in a manner that will have maximum partisan political impact on the national and state elections," state Rep. John Coghill said in a letter dated Friday.

Coghill, from North Pole, is on the Alaska Legislature's Legislative Council, the body that appointed French to oversee the investigation. The letter was sent to the council chairman, Sen. Kim Elton, D-Juneau, whom Coghill asks to convene a meeting to discuss whether French should be replaced.

Coghill said the council instructed French, an Anchorage Democrat, to keep politics out of the investigation.

"He just failed that, in my view," Coghill told The Associated Press Saturday.

Elton did not immediately return a message left at his office.

In July, the council approved $100,000 for an investigation into whether Palin abused her power by firing Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan. Monegan has said he felt pressure from Palin family and staff to dismiss a trooper, Mike Wooten, who went through a messy divorce with her sister before Palin's election as governor.

Coghill wrote in the letter that French was quoted in media reports that the results of the probe were going to be an "October surprise" that is "likely to be damaging to the administration." The comments lead Coghill to believe the investigation is lacking in fairness, neutrality and due process, he wrote.

Coghill said he was not approached by the McCain-Palin campaign to draft the letter, but that he called the campaign to "apprise" them of the letter.

"I'm on my own in this one," he said.

French said he said some things he probably shouldn't have, but noted that he is not in charge of gathering the facts and writing the report. Prosecutor Stephen Branchflower was hired to conduct the investigation and the integrity of the probe remains intact, he said.

"The reason we hired Steve Branchflower was to avoid this entire discussion. Sooner or later everybody gets accused of partisanship no matter what you're doing," French told the AP.

A recent decision to not subpoena the governor in the probe was evidence that the investigation was not politicized, French said.

On Friday, French said the Legislature will subpoena seven other witnesses and that the investigation on a fast track now that Palin is Republican John McCain's running mate.

The investigation previously was expected to end on Oct. 31, five days before the Nov. 4 election. The new target date for Branchflower to complete the report is Oct. 10.

Wooten divorced Palin's sister and served a five day suspension after the Palins filed a complaint against him for threatening Palin's father. The Palins also accused Wooten of using a Taser on his stepson, drinking in his patrol car and illegally shooting a moose.

Monegan was fired by Palin in July. She has strongly denied that Monegan's dismissal had anything to do with her former brother-in-law and has said she welcomes the investigation.

Coghill's efforts were initially reported by Newsweek.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by ajmccarrell

The article you posted indicates that French has already determined the outcome of the investigation, so that bolsters my point, it doesn't diminish it.

No, it does not Once again, you take what someone says (the fact) and distort it.

Originally Posted by ajmccarrell

. . . so before any findings are given, the Palins need to be given a chance to respond to the evidence . . . .

They have been given one, but they refuse to cooperate and likely will be held in contempt in January.

Originally Posted by ajmccarrell

. . . What you posted appears to be exactly what I said: French has politicised the investigation because he knows he now has a national stage . . .

No, It was put on the national stage by McCain. In other words, Freanch could have said the same thing and if she were not the R VP nominee, it would not be on the national stage.

Originally Posted by ajmccarrell

. . . Also, the media downplays what exactly it was that Wooten did to have Palin's ire.

Once again (commentary supplied in bold):

Palin, who later became the Republican vice presidential nominee in the 2008 United States presidential election, said that she dismissed commissioner Walt Monegan because of performance-related issues. Monegan said that his dismissal may have been tied to his reluctance to fire Mike Wooten, an Alaska State Trooper who is also Palin's ex-brother-in-law. At the time Palin dismissed Monegan, Wooten was involved in a custody battle with his former wife, Molly McCann, Palin's sister. Monegan alleged that the Governor herself, her husband, and members of her staff as well as the state's Attorney General, had contacted him numerous times regarding Wooten.

Palin denied that there had been any pressure on Monegan to fire Wooten, either from herself or from anyone in her administration. In August, Palin acknowledged that "pressure could have been perceived to exist, although I have only now become aware of it." She also apologized to Alaskans for what she called "this distraction."

Before Palin became governor, she and other members of her family had made various allegations of misconduct against Wooten. An internal investigation upheld some charges and rejected others. On March 1, 2006 the chief of the Alaska state police issued a letter of reprimand to Wooten, and he served a five-day suspension as penalty. After Palin became governor in December 2006, she, her husband Todd Palin, and various aides had further contacts with Monegan about Wooten. Monegan told both Sarah Palin and Todd Palin that the disciplinary proceeding against Wooten was concluded and could not be reopened.
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Do the math

Finally, because what Wooten did was mostly irrelevant because Wooten was already disciplined for it. Palin obviously could not take the legal result of that though. Moreover, if Palin thinks she is being denied the opprtunity to be heard in a fair forum, she could tell the world exactly what her "budget disagreement" reasons were with Monegan instead of vaguely referring to them and refusing to cooperate. Yet, she does not. Wonder why

That you excuse this total disregard for the rule of law speaks volumes.

[ajmccarrell]

Thursday, September 18, 2008
October Surprise Or A Democrat Hit? - Troopergate Is A Smokescreen For Democrats

A TROOPER'S INDISCRETIONS:

Democrats using the counterfeit 'Troopergate' investigation to accomplish their agenda of revenge and bring down the person who has taken all hopes of the Presidency away from them. They don't want you to know the truth, you know, facts like those of Trooper Mike Wootan's extensive investigation file including allegations of tasering his 11 year-old step son, drinking while on duty, DUI's for him and his girlfriend that were never charged, criminally killing a moose with out a permit that he was not charged for, threatening to kill Palin's father, and threatening to bring down the family if they helped Palin's sister, McCann, whom he was divorcing.

Why should we overlook the fact that this man was not fit to be a state trooper? Why should we overlook the fact that his superiors obviously did not do their jobs or protect the public safety by removing him from his job? Why should we overlook the fact that Trooper Wootman and his superior, Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan, both deserved to lose their jobs for failing to protect the public by assuring that the troopers filling those jobs were fit for duty?

A COMMISSIONER'S INSUBORDINATION:

Commissioner Walt Monegan had received a letter of reprimand from the Head of Alaska State Troopers, Col. Julia Grimes, suspending him because his "...record clearly indicates a serious and concentrated pattern of unacceptable and at times, illegal activity occurring over a lengthy period, which establishes a course of conduct totally at odds with the ethics of our profession," When employed to carry out a job, you may become unemployed for not carrying out that job. Commissioner Monegan was fired because he was incapable or unwilling to do his job over a long and documented period of time; he was fired for insubordination.

A DEMOCRAT CONFLICT OF INTEREST:

Let's move beyond the facts that prove that both of these men were unfit to fill their jobs, those will come out in the end, let's talk now about the Democrats desperate 'October Surprise'. I have never seen the Democrats behave so viciously, so obviously, so intently, and so grotesquely incompetent as they have in their launch of the counterfeit 'Troopergate' investigation. This investigation is one thing and one thing only; their last ditch, dying attempt to save their power and their campaign. They are slowly sinking in the tar pit that is the end of their shot for the Presidency and they are lashing out and grasping at any blade of hope they can find, even if they have to make it up.

"Something's fishy here...." with Sen. Hollis French (D.) taking control of the subpoena list from Investigator Steven Branchflower. Even Alaska's Joint Judiciary Committee could see that the absence of Palin's former chief of staff Mike Tibbles' name from the subpoena list was not kosher. Sen. French has endorsed Barack Obama for president and actively supports his candidacy so how is it that he is controlling anything in an investigation against Palin? Because liberals behave as if they are above the law and the people allow them to get away with it.

Four subpoenas were issued to individuals that Investigator Branchflower alleges were called into a meeting by Mike Tibbles and allegedly discussed Wooten's dismissal. If they were really trying to expose the truth why did they not issue a subpoena for Mr. Tibbles? It is not surprising to know that key players in this investigation farce are Obama supporters. In fact the Democrat Party has completely eliminated ethics and conflict of interest from their vocabulary and values.

PALIN'S TURN:

Palin has issued a response to the investigation and so-called October Surprise and released internal memos and emails that paint a picture of a man who worked against Palin over an extended period of time to push his own financial agenda to the point of stunning insubordination. In fact, it was not Monegan who filed an ethics complaint, it was Palin herself so she could present her case. Monegan purposely sought out political opponents of Palin's to force his financial agendas through working against her initiatives. In anyone's administration, any member who committed these acts would have been fired long before he was. The information and evidence that is available in amazing amounts that will unmistakeably remove all truth from this obvious attempt to get Palin out of the race and prove that Monegan sunk his own ship by his own insubordination.

AN INVASION OF PRIVACY:

I have received information from Adam Brickley that hackers have gotten into Palin's private email account and criminally invaded her privacy. Liberal blogs such as Mother Jones Blog have been using the information taken from this incident on their blogs and even highlighted her email contact list including her 17 year old daughter, Bristol. Now the Secret Service has an investigation of their own, but apparently since liberals believe they are above the law and have no fear to the point of posting their indiscretions out on the web for everyone to see. Boy, they are in for a big surprise!

MY TAKE:

Monegan is using these outrageous accusations to get revenge, just as those in charge of the investigation are using them to carry out their hit on Palin. They know Palin is going to beat them in November and they are willing to do what ever it takes to destroy her. The ends do not justify the means and the American people will turn against them in the voting booths and finally take back what is theirs by voting in McCain/Palin who will in turn run these do-nothing, tax-robbing politicians out of Washington.
Posted by SR at 6:50 AM
Labels: '08 Election, Adam Brickley, Barack Obama, crime, criminals, Draft Sarah Palin For Vice President, Gov. Sarah Palin, John McCain, mccain/palin, troopergate, vote

[ajmccarrell]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

No, it does not Once again, you take what someone says (the fact) and distort it.



They have been given one, but they refuse to cooperate and likely will be held in contempt in January.



No, It was put on the national stage by McCain. In other words, Freanch could have said the same thing and if she were not the R VP nominee, it would not be on the national stage.



Once again (commentary supplied in bold):

Palin, who later became the Republican vice presidential nominee in the 2008 United States presidential election, said that she dismissed commissioner Walt Monegan because of performance-related issues. Monegan said that his dismissal may have been tied to his reluctance to fire Mike Wooten, an Alaska State Trooper who is also Palin's ex-brother-in-law. At the time Palin dismissed Monegan, Wooten was involved in a custody battle with his former wife, Molly McCann, Palin's sister. Monegan alleged that the Governor herself, her husband, and members of her staff as well as the state's Attorney General, had contacted him numerous times regarding Wooten.

Palin denied that there had been any pressure on Monegan to fire Wooten, either from herself or from anyone in her administration. In August, Palin acknowledged that "pressure could have been perceived to exist, although I have only now become aware of it." She also apologized to Alaskans for what she called "this distraction."

Before Palin became governor, she and other members of her family had made various allegations of misconduct against Wooten. An internal investigation upheld some charges and rejected others. On March 1, 2006 the chief of the Alaska state police issued a letter of reprimand to Wooten, and he served a five-day suspension as penalty. After Palin became governor in December 2006, she, her husband Todd Palin, and various aides had further contacts with Monegan about Wooten. Monegan told both Sarah Palin and Todd Palin that the disciplinary proceeding against Wooten was concluded and could not be reopened.
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Do the math

Finally, because what Wooten did was mostly irrelevant because Wooten was already disciplined for it. Palin obviously could not take the legal result of that though. Moreover, if Palin thinks she is being denied the opprtunity to be heard in a fair forum, she could tell the world exactly what her "budget disagreement" reasons were with Monegan instead of vaguely referring to them and refusing to cooperate. Yet, she does not. Wonder why

That you excuse this total disregard for the rule of law speaks volumes.

"Commissioner Walt Monegan had received a letter of reprimand from the Head of Alaska State Troopers, Col. Julia Grimes, suspending him because his "...record clearly indicates a serious and concentrated pattern of unacceptable and at times, illegal activity occurring over a lengthy period, which establishes a course of conduct totally at odds with the ethics of our profession," When employed to carry out a job, you may become unemployed for not carrying out that job. Commissioner Monegan was fired because he was incapable or unwilling to do his job over a long and documented period of time; he was fired for insubordination." It seems this is totally at odds with what French is saying. Clearly, French has an axe to grind, as his statement states what his findings already were. If ANY other investigator made such a statement to the media when investigating a high profile case, he would be removed, or impeached during a trial. If you didn't raise that kind of objection, if you were acting as my attorney, it would be an easy appeal for incompetence of counsel. You are not applying the laws regarding due process evenly. You simple don't like the target of the investigation, so you are willing to deal with the misconduct of the investigators. Imagine if Lance Ito had said such a thing? It would have been grounds for a mistrial.

Monegan has been disciplined before. Wootten was nto disciplined for everything he stood accused of and your comments assume that he had been. Your comments also assume that Palin pressured Monegan to fire Wootten, which Monegan hasn't even said. As was stated above, it was a political opponent of Palin's that made this charge. You are practicing selective reading again. The conclusions you draw ASSUME that the allegations are true. Wootten should have been fired and I think there should be an investigation of Monegan as to why a guy like this was allowed to carry a gun. I mean, I guess you must think a suspension for child abuse (perhaps attempted murder because of the number of cases where weak people are killed by tazers) is an appropriate punishment. Are you REALLY going to say that? Obviously a suspension isn't enough in that case, which would make the firing of Monegan completely acceptible, even if the allegations are true. What if a cop tazered YOUR kid, would you think being his suspended was an okay punishment? I bet you'd sue the hell out of the department, as well you should, as well as try to press criminal charges. You are also incorrect here, an IAB finding is NOT the same as a criminal proceeding. An officer can still be found guilty in another court or have further actions taken, despite an internal punishment.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by ajmccarrell

. . . The main accuser was a guy who had political reasons to dog Palin. Just as I said.

Once again, irrelevant facts asserted to spin the issue. Again, the eight R's on the 12 member committee agreed that there was a need for an investigation nased on the facts. I suppose those eight R's were all against her as well. In fact, everyone is against her

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by ajmccarrell

"Commissioner Walt Monegan had received a letter of reprimand from the Head of Alaska State Troopers, Col. Julia Grimes, suspending him because his "...record clearly indicates a serious and concentrated pattern of unacceptable and at times, illegal activity occurring over a lengthy period, which establishes a course of conduct totally at odds with the ethics of our profession," When employed to carry out a job, you may become unemployed for not carrying out that job. Commissioner Monegan was fired because he was incapable or unwilling to do his job over a long and documented period of time; he was fired for insubordination."

Good, then she needs to tell the committe that or she will face a contempt charge. Then, she needs to tell the Committee why she then offered such a bad person a position as executive director of the state Alcoholic Beverage Control Board, which he turned down.

In the end, if she would just cooperate with the investigation, all of this and likely more would come to light. But, she doesn't cooperate. Wonder why I do not really care if she is guilty or not. I just want her to stop covering up.

Anyway, I am done with this issue until something relevant comes to light.

[ajmccarrell]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Good, then she needs to tell the committe that or she will face a contempt charge. Then, she needs to tell the Committee why she then offered such a bad person a position as executive director of the state Alcoholic Beverage Control Board, which he turned down.

In the end, if she would just cooperate with the investigation, all of this and likely more would come to light. But, she doesn't cooperate. Wonder why I do not really care if she is guilty or not. I just want her to stop covering up.

Anyway, I am done with this issue until something relevant comes to light.

Good lord! It was even mentioned in the articles posted that Palin was NOT subpoena'd! Get your facts straight, man!

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by ajmccarrell

Good lord! It was even mentioned in the articles posted that Palin was NOT subpoena'd! Get your facts straight, man!

That is because she agreed to cooperate.

Her husband, though, will be in contempt.

That you defend this at all is ridiculous. I suspect you know this.

[ajmccarrell]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

That is because she agreed to cooperate.

Her husband, though, will be in contempt.

That you defend this at all is ridiculous. I suspect you know this.

I find it ridiculous that this is even an issue at all. I mean, we've got a trooper who admits to abusing a kid, who drinks on the job, who ignores gun laws, he's misused his gun and is still allowed to carry one. We've got a wife-beating commissioner who merely suspended an officer for doing things that would normally result in serious prison time for anyone else, and yet we've put the governor on trial for allegedly firing the commissioner, who merely suspended the officer for a class A felony. Obviously the commissioner was remiss in his duties for allowing an officer like this guy on the streets. Do you REALLY want to say that this makes any sense at all?

They are threatening her family with contempt of court for not testifying, despite laws that exist that allow for marital priveledge. Last I checked, Todd Palin was the governor's husband and not a government official. Your lack of knowledge of evidence laws are the pits, or else you are so blinded by partisanship that you are willing to ignore laws to see someone you dislike pay.