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Old 08-06-2018, 10:31 PM
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After reviewing the various quotes by band members etc. when compiling the "Record" thread, I reached the following conclusion:

(1) LINDSEY was the one who was visibly unhappy (with all their Greatest Hits touring)

(2) When Tom died suddenly on tour, Stevie bona fide freaked out about her own imminent mortality and she drew a voodoo line of happiness around her that necessarily excluded brooding Lindsey's whinging about the band's direction

(3) Something brought things to a head around MusicCares--it might have simply been that the deadline for Lindsey to sign off on the tour plans was around that same date (it makes logistic sense that they'd schedule such a meeting around the same time as a gig)--and it was likely NOT some unconscionable or violent words or behavior by Lindsey against Stevie or her side, because in the interviews Stevie is confabulating merrily about the timing in a way that suggests she is trying to obfuscate something SHE did wrong and not in a way that suggests she is being forced to recall some traumatic moment in her life
I think your conclusions make an awful lot of good sense
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Old 08-06-2018, 11:04 PM
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After reviewing the various quotes by band members etc. when compiling the "Record" thread, I reached the following conclusion:

(1) LINDSEY was the one who was visibly unhappy (with all their Greatest Hits touring)

(2) When Tom died suddenly on tour, Stevie bona fide freaked out about her own imminent mortality and she drew a voodoo line of happiness around her that necessarily excluded brooding Lindsey's whinging about the band's direction

(3) Something brought things to a head around MusicCares--it might have simply been that the deadline for Lindsey to sign off on the tour plans was around that same date (it makes logistic sense that they'd schedule such a meeting around the same time as a gig)--and it was likely NOT some unconscionable or violent words or behavior by Lindsey against Stevie or her side, because in the interviews Stevie is confabulating merrily about the timing in a way that suggests she is trying to obfuscate something SHE did wrong and not in a way that suggests she is being forced to recall some traumatic moment in her life

So true. She couldn't even remember the dates in the first interview they did, the Anthony Mason one. And she wasn't even sure when he got fired, all she could remember was when she went to Hawaii.
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Old 08-07-2018, 12:47 AM
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What an entertaining thread. LoL. The drama and back and forth fighting on here is way too funny. More drama than the band creates. Well, time for bed for me.
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Old 08-07-2018, 06:10 AM
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So true. She couldn't even remember the dates in the first interview they did, the Anthony Mason one. And she wasn't even sure when he got fired, all she could remember was when she went to Hawaii.
Itís no so much better that she couldnít remember the dates but more like she couldnít control all the lies that were floating around
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Old 08-07-2018, 06:12 AM
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I donít think weíre fighting, just expressing our views. I find it hilarious that people are still in here hating on band members. You are still here, so clearly you donít hate FM now as you claim. Lol
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Old 08-07-2018, 08:48 AM
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So true. She couldn't even remember the dates in the first interview they did, the Anthony Mason one. And she wasn't even sure when he got fired, all she could remember was when she went to Hawaii.
The 5 priorities of Stevie Nicks:

1. The daily count of which number today's show happens to be

2. Yogurt and animal crackers

3. Vacation

4. How much money is being deposited?

5. Keeping track of the three years between Mac tours
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Old 08-07-2018, 08:49 AM
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You have to understand. $tevie'$ only friend$ are people that work for her. So you have to pay all the staff and mgmt and agents that demand they do the big money stuff.

It's a lot of pre$$sure to become soulless.
That is an outright lie...and you know it. I mean come on. When is enough enough?
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Old 08-07-2018, 09:06 AM
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After reviewing the various quotes by band members etc. when compiling the "Record" thread, I reached the following conclusion:

(1) LINDSEY was the one who was visibly unhappy (with all their Greatest Hits touring)

(2) When Tom died suddenly on tour, Stevie bona fide freaked out about her own imminent mortality and she drew a voodoo line of happiness around her that necessarily excluded brooding Lindsey's whinging about the band's direction

(3) Something brought things to a head around MusicCares--it might have simply been that the deadline for Lindsey to sign off on the tour plans was around that same date (it makes logistic sense that they'd schedule such a meeting around the same time as a gig)--and it was likely NOT some unconscionable or violent words or behavior by Lindsey against Stevie or her side, because in the interviews Stevie is confabulating merrily about the timing in a way that suggests she is trying to obfuscate something SHE did wrong and not in a way that suggests she is being forced to recall some traumatic moment in her life
This is essentially what I think, too, although I think the "unhappiness" Stevie was trying to remove from her life by removing Lindsey wasn't so much about his Greatest Hits touring dissatisfaction, but rather about the fact that he was the one man in her life who didn't always say "Yes, Stevie." She has surrounded herself with employees and people she can control and he was the only one who refused to back down.

Was he always in the right when they argued? No, I'm sure he wasn't. I'm sure he could be a pain at times. However, instead of dealing with conflict and even drawing strength from it like she used to, instead of maturely recognizing that occasionally she is the one in the wrong and everything isn't always Lindsey's fault, Stevie removed him in order to live in a soft word of sycophancy. Now she can "dance around the apartment" surrounded by those who will tell her only what she wants to hear. If that meant devastating Lindsey, then so be it. Only her happiness matters.

Another reason I think that this was all triggered by Tom's death is that as recently as the Classic Concerts in July 2017, Stevie was talking about how proud she was that Fleetwood Mac still had all 5 members from the Rumours era in it. Why explicitly say that is a point of pride if she were plotting to destroy it? Tom's death messed with her head.

But there's no question that she had Mike Campbell in the back pocket, so whatever happened at MusiCares that brought this to a head, whatever Lindsey said or did (such as arguing for a concurrent tour)... Stevie was ready for it. Thus, by that point, she must have been thinking about breaking up the Rumours 5.

Speculation: Since Tom's death, she had been thinking about how stressful this tour would be with Lindsey, thinking about how nice it would be if he simply weren't a part of it and someone like her friend Mike Campbell was... and thinking about scenarios where she could make that happen.
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Old 08-07-2018, 09:15 AM
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This is essentially what I think, too, although I think the "unhappiness" Stevie was trying to remove from her life by removing Lindsey wasn't so much about his Greatest Hits touring, but rather about the fact that he was the one man in her life who didn't always say "Yes, Stevie." She has surrounded herself with employees and people she can control and he was the one who refused.

Was he always in the right when they argued? No, I'm sure he wasn't. However, instead of dealing with conflict and even drawing strength from it like she used to, Stevie removed him in order to live in a soft word of sycophancy. Now she can "dance around the apartment" surrounded by those who will tell her only what she wants to hear. If that meant devastating Lindsey, then so be it. Only her happiness matters.

Another reason I think that this was all triggered by Tom's death is that as recently as the Classic Concerts in July 2017, Stevie was talking about how proud she was that Fleetwood Mac still had all 5 members from the Rumours era in it. Why explicitly say that is a point of pride if she was plotting to destroy it? Tom's death messed with her head.

But there's no question that she had Mike Campbell in the back pocket, so whatever happened at MusiCares that brought this to a head, whatever Lindsey said or did (such as arguing for a concurrent tour)... Stevie was ready for it. Thus, by that point, she must have been thinking about breaking up the Rumours 5.

Speculation: Since Tom's death, she had been thinking about how stressful this tour would be with Lindsey, thinking about how nice it would be if he simply weren't a part of it and someone like her friend Mike Campbell was... and thinking about scenarios where she could make that happen.
Spot on, Nancy. $tevie ONLY cares about herself, and her own happiness.

I guess $he's forgotten that $he'd be NOBODY if it weren't for Lindsey. What an INGRATE!

I hope $he enjoys her remaining days surrounded by all her ye$ people, ki$$ing her a$$.
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Old 08-07-2018, 11:01 AM
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That is an outright lie...and you know it. I mean come on. When is enough enough?
It's very true. And I understand you will defend her to no end. But, that doesn't make it untrue.
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Old 08-07-2018, 11:11 AM
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She is helping a lot by dropping f bombs on social media, there is clearly no story for her or hubby to tell.
Right? I'm sure the other four just loved having her around.
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Old 08-07-2018, 11:23 AM
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Spot on, Nancy. $tevie ONLY cares about herself, and her own happiness.

I guess $he's forgotten that $he'd be NOBODY if it weren't for Lindsey. What an INGRATE!

I hope $he enjoys her remaining days surrounded by all her ye$ people, ki$$ing her a$$.
It's not true!! Lindsey was so mean to $tevie that she got so upset and she married a girl named Kim!
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Old 08-07-2018, 12:13 PM
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It's very true. And I understand you will defend her to no end. But, that doesn't make it untrue.
Well then how do you explain the large number of friends she has in the music industry? How about Marty Callner, Michael Campbell, Sheryl Crow, etc. etc. etc. Also, she has her family. Some people dont need 50 friends around. They prefer to trust in a smaller group of close friends. I am one of those people.
Why do you act like you know about her daily life? Just because you guys think she is Satan doesnt make it true either. You are like sheep. One person has a thought and the next follow right along and builds on it with another made up alternative fact and it just goes on and on. In the meantime you are chasing fans away from this board and you dont even seem to care. It is pretty sad.
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Old 08-07-2018, 12:25 PM
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Well then how do you explain the large number of friends she has in the music industry? How about Marty Callner, Michael Campbell, Sheryl Crow, etc. etc. etc. Also, she has her family. Some people dont need 50 friends around. They prefer to trust in a smaller group of close friends. I am one of those people.
Why do you act like you know about her daily life? Just because you guys think she is Satan doesnt make it true either. You are like sheep. One person has a thought and the next follow right along and builds on it with another made up alternative fact and it just goes on and on. In the meantime you are chasing fans away from this board and you dont even seem to care. It is pretty sad.
I have no words for you JohnL. You got us. We are $heep. We followed the bands lies and accepted the fact that they weren't lying about the tour. And I don't believe for one second that they are now backtracking and were just "unhappy".

In fact, I don't believe for one second that there was any altercation between $tevie and Lindsey. I believe that they just didn't like him and decided to fire him because of his constant nagging in wanting to make new music.

If you look at the history, Lindsey has always been mean to her. When he came to give his resignation back in 1987 at Christine's house, (which she quietly and politely accepted) he attacked her!!

When they broke up, Stevie wanted to stay in the relationship but no. Do you know what he did?? He passed her around to the Eagles and made her sleep with all of them. THEN!! He made her sleep with Mick after that!!

He was constantly in and out of rehab to the point where she was scared and uncomfortable.

I can not in good conscious be a sheep! I $tand with $tevie!!! bahhhhhhhhh
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On her IG account:

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Needless to say her comment is generating fans and haters.
Way to give up the high ground.
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