Is this fair?

[StevieandChris]

Originally Posted by button-lip

I don’t think anyone sees Stevie as the victim. Only she of course and those wacko fans who would drink her pee if she asks them to.

Many Stevie fans have turned against her while I don’t see any Lindsey fan doing the same. That’s got to tell you something.

I see it online, but I have not seen any fans turn against Stevie in “real life.” The fans older than me that I know just see this as par for the course. Most think she was over dramatic as usual, and he must have been a jerk again and it caught up with him. Probably truth to all of that. Most of the fans want music and will see FM, and will just see Lindsey solo.

[elle]

i have no time to read through pages of different threads, but since when was Lindsey invited to Maui for their rehearsal with Campbell and Finn?????

last i've heard, he was NOT invited, but he heard about it happening and was considering going as a last effort to try to convince them they are making a huge mistake. they were supposedly all worried that he will be coming and were preparing their "defense" - but at some point he must have realized that 1) he was not invited and 2) that the effort would be futile, and decided not to go after all.

[sue]

Originally Posted by elle

i have no time to read through pages of different threads, but since when was Lindsey invited to Maui for their rehearsal with Campbell and Finn?????

last i've heard, he was NOT invited, but he heard about it happening and was considering going as a last effort to try to convince them they are making a huge mistake. they were supposedly all worried that he will be coming and were preparing their "defense" - but at some point he must have realized that 1) he was not invited and 2) that the effort would be futile, and decided not to go after all.

I think people are talking at cross purposes....
Gldstwmn mentioned about Lindsey being invited to rehearse but I think he was
talking about 1986/7 and Lindsey then leaving the band
People then thought gldstwmn meant like Now....
I think......

[sodascouts]

Originally Posted by sue

I think people are talking at cross purposes....
Gldstwmn mentioned about Lindsey being invited to rehearse but I think he was
talking about 1986/7 and Lindsey then leaving the band
People then thought gldstwmn meant like Now....
I think......

Yes. I got confused and I led everyone else astray. I'm sorry. I feel very foolish!

[DownOnRodeo]

Originally Posted by sue

I think people are talking at cross purposes....
Gldstwmn mentioned about Lindsey being invited to rehearse but I think he was
talking about 1986/7 and Lindsey then leaving the band
People then thought gldstwmn meant like Now....
I think......

Although it half rang true, I wasn't entirely sure either, so I couched my theorising in hypothetical terms ('my theory would be'). Apologies for contributing to our little 'fake news' diversion there

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by sue

I think people are talking at cross purposes....
Gldstwmn mentioned about Lindsey being invited to rehearse but I think he was
talking about 1986/7 and Lindsey then leaving the band
People then thought gldstwmn meant like Now....
I think......

It's both. He quit the tour in 87 and was invited to rehearse on Maui.

[mitzo]

Originally Posted by StevieandChris

I see it online, but I have not seen any fans turn against Stevie in “real life.” The fans older than me that I know just see this as par for the course. Most think she was over dramatic as usual, and he must have been a jerk again and it caught up with him. Probably truth to all of that. Most of the fans want music and will see FM, and will just see Lindsey solo.

And would add that I do not feel that Stevie or anyone else in the band is obligated to spend their final productive years locked in a toxic dungeon with someone they have serious problems with, just so some of us can pretend the band is still a viable creative force. I am constantly amazed at how many people here on the Ledge actually thought the Rumours 5 would record together again. Or that they should have stayed together because that is the way WE want it.

Move on.

[sodascouts]

Originally Posted by mitzo

And would add that I do not feel that Stevie or anyone else in the band is obligated to spend their final productive years locked in a toxic dungeon with someone they have serious problems with, just so some of us can pretend the band is still a viable creative force. I am constantly amazed at how many people here on the Ledge actually thought the Rumours 5 would record together again. Or that they should have stayed together because that is the way WE want it.

Move on.

Her happiness has come at the expense of hurting someone else.

Better to not do Fleetwood Mac at all if it's so toxic than to tear it away from another member in order to make it more enjoyable for herself, knowing how much it meant to him.

That's selfish and cruel.

We're supposed to commend her for that?

[jeets2000]

Originally Posted by sodascouts

Her happiness has come at the expense of hurting someone else.

Better to not do Fleetwood Mac at all if it's so toxic than to tear it away from another member in order to make it more enjoyable for herself, knowing how much it meant to him.

That's selfish and cruel.

We're supposed to commend her for that?

Well said, Nancy.

This is what I'll never understand about the people who defend what the band did: If you have a problem with something in the band, figure out a way to resolve it, or leave. Like Lindsey did in 1987. Giving ultimatums and then standing idly by while someone else is shown the door is a coward's way out, and frankly it's embarrassing. In order for Stevie to be happy, she had to make someone else's life miserable, and that's the definition of selfish. It's unforgivable.

[sodascouts]

Originally Posted by jeets2000

Well said, Nancy.

This is what I'll never understand about the people who defend what the band did: If you have a problem with something in the band, figure out a way to resolve it, or leave. Like Lindsey did in 1987. Giving ultimatums and then standing idly by while someone else is shown the door is a coward's way out, and frankly it's embarrassing. In order for Stevie to be happy, she had to make someone else's life miserable, and that's the definition of selfish. It's unforgivable.

Exactly. When Stevie laughs about how she can dance around her apartment, all I can think about is how each one of those steps is steeped in Lindsey's blood.

She paid for her pleasure with a pound of his flesh.

[mitzo]

Originally Posted by sodascouts

Exactly. When Stevie laughs about how she can dance around her apartment, all I can think about is how each one of those steps is steeped in Lindsey's blood.

She paid for her pleasure with a pound of his flesh.

Three other band members were also involved. None of them stood by Lindsey. Maybe because he is the problem.

[StevieandChris]

Originally Posted by mitzo

Three other band members were also involved. None of them stood by Lindsey. Maybe because he is the problem.

Obviously, this is a losing argument here. The people who call Stevie fans delusional are often just as deluded about Lindsey and his actions because he is a “musical genius” who does no wrong. Many have hated Stevie for years, and relish at having something else to harp on. The cries about tarnishing the legacy are not authentic, because many would be rejoicing if Stevie was the one fired instead of Lindsey.

Again, I think Lindsey contributed to his own ouster by his past and current behavior, current possibly being whatever went down that we are not privy to.

Much like Stevie would have contributed to her ouster if they *had* decided to fire her. If this tour tanks, maybe she is next.

I love the band but do not feel sympathy for a single member.

[dreamsunwind]

Originally Posted by mitzo

Three other band members were also involved. None of them stood by Lindsey. Maybe because he is the problem.

Well if you believe Christine, then she didn't even know about it until after it was a done deal. And I really can't imagine John caring enough any particular way to make an effort to "stand by" anyone, except maybe Mick.

[sodascouts]

Originally Posted by mitzo

Three other band members were also involved. None of them stood by Lindsey. Maybe because he is the problem.

It's true that the other band members shouldn't get a pass. In the end, they chose Stevie over Lindsey.

Maybe it's because he's the problem.

Maybe it's because she's the meal ticket.

[button-lip]

Originally Posted by mitzo

Three other band members were also involved. None of them stood by Lindsey. Maybe because he is the problem.

No, not all of them were involved in the decision. Majority rules, remember?

Your friend Mick said it so it has to be true! Only him and sweet OGB.