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Old 12-08-2018, 12:08 PM
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I felt this same way for most of the year until another Ledgie mentioned that Chris might have been contractually obliged to remain in Fleetwood Mac after Lindsey told her you can't just come and go. So maybe, just maybe Christine gets to remain blameless in all of this.
Even if that was true, she still had power. The coup happened when she was in London. She still had options. I don't believe at her age she is obligated to tour with the Mac. But that's just my opinion.
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Old 12-08-2018, 12:48 PM
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i love what he said about Christine's letter. i love what she wrote to him, starting with i miss you and i had nothing to do with this.

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Old 12-08-2018, 12:51 PM
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It seems to be all about the "Big Machine" and money. Lot's of money. Irving Azoff screaming at Lindsey that he did it this time. Lindsey talks in his lawsuit of "others" being involved. Irving wanted his big payout too. So crass.

I wish the others in the group would have told Stevie to suck it up. If you don't like it then you leave. Call her bluff. I think they thought about how it worked in 86 when Lindsey left so it would work again. People are flocking to the concerts, but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
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Old 12-08-2018, 01:11 PM
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I think it's time for Lindsey to put away Fleetwood Mac for good, and permanently take up his own work. This ending is his opportunity to devote himself to himself, without having to pull musical punches for the functional aspects of a circus and spectacle. He said so himself earlier in the year, so let him treat it like one.

He can do anything he wants now (as long as he can afford it): He can record when he wants and what he wants, and he can play out live when he wants and what he wants. He can find whatever other outlets he wants, too, whether that's scoring movies (everybody knows James Newton Howard and Danny Elfman more for their movie scores than their earlier band work) or painting or writing or even teaching master classes in music technology so that the Brian Wilson and George Martin approaches aren't lost forever.

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Old 12-08-2018, 01:28 PM
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I saw him in DC the week after the lawsuit was filed, and I saw him last week in York. Granted, these were not M&G experiences, but he looked and acted so much happier on stage last week than he did in October. Could have just been the day, the set (DC had some technical glitches), or any number of things. But I wonder if it wasnít the settlement and putting all this behind him. But I secretly hope it was the email from Chris that really lifted his spirits. Still holding out hope for BuckVie 2!!
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Old 12-08-2018, 01:49 PM
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If Christine had quit, the band could have sued her.

The one who could have stopped it was Mick. He could have told Stevie, "We're not firing anyone. Sleep on it for a month and then decide whether you want to stay or go, but we'll dissolve the band or (if you quit) carry on without you before we fire anyone."

Stevie would have calmed down, stayed, and the show would have gone on.
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Old 12-08-2018, 03:51 PM
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If Christine had quit, the band could have sued her.

The one who could have stopped it was Mick. He could have told Stevie, "We're not firing anyone. Sleep on it for a month and then decide whether you want to stay or go, but we'll dissolve the band or (if you quit) carry on without you before we fire anyone."

Stevie would have calmed down, stayed, and the show would have gone on.


I agree with this. On another note that interview when Stevie said ď 4 of us were going to tour and one wasnít go toĒ ok.... well, 4 of us wanted to record an album but.....? Thatís the next question that should have been asked in that interview.
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Old 12-08-2018, 09:24 PM
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I agree with this. On another note that interview when Stevie said ď 4 of us were going to tour and one wasnít go toĒ ok.... well, 4 of us wanted to record an album but.....? Thatís the next question that should have been asked in that interview.
Great parallel. By the standard that prevailed on that project, they should call this tour non FM but McVie-Nicks.
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I agree with this. On another note that interview when Stevie said ď 4 of us were going to tour and one wasnít go toĒ ok.... well, 4 of us wanted to record an album but.....? Thatís the next question that should have been asked in that interview.
Itís about money. Tours make money, albums donít, especially the way they make albums.
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Old 12-08-2018, 10:29 PM
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I think it's time for Lindsey to put away Fleetwood Mac for good, and permanently take up his own work. This ending is his opportunity to devote himself to himself, without having to pull musical punches for the functional aspects of a circus and spectacle. He said so himself earlier in the year, so let him treat it like one.

He can do anything he wants now (as long as he can afford it): He can record when he wants and what he wants, and he can play out live when he wants and what he wants. He can find whatever other outlets he wants, too, whether that's scoring movies (everybody knows James Newton Howard and Danny Elfman more for their movie scores than their earlier band work) or painting or writing or even teaching master classes in music technology so that the Brian Wilson and George Martin approaches aren't lost forever.

Do your Whitman thing, Buckingham.

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Couldnít he do that while he was in the band though? In addition whether he was in the band or not over the past 30 years I donít think he did much production (besides for himself), painting or scoring work, if any.

He could have been Whitman anytime. Heíll be back in this band.
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Old 12-08-2018, 11:15 PM
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CbBen -- Mick threatening to dissolve Fleetwood Mac? There would have been a pregnant pause followed by Stevie laughing hysterically for five minutes.

Mick would corral John to keep touring if all they could find as replacement members were a taxidermied squirrel and an antique hat stand.
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Also Christine reached out in an email saying she had nothing to do with it and thinks deep in her heart that Stevie is sorry. I don't know if I buy that one.
yeah. right.

if $tevie was sorry she would say so
but then she'd have to be sorry about something ... and this was all lindsey's fault
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I felt this same way for most of the year until another Ledgie mentioned that Chris might have been contractually obliged to remain in Fleetwood Mac after Lindsey told her you can't just come and go. So maybe, just maybe Christine gets to remain blameless in all of this.
But to not even answer his email until settlement time? I understand that her lawyer instructed her not to have any communication with him, but what happens if you disobey your lawyer. He doesnít kill you. She couldíve answered his email. Even now she could pick up a phone rather than emailing him
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Old 12-09-2018, 03:19 AM
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But to not even answer his email until settlement time? I understand that her lawyer instructed her not to have any communication with him, but what happens if you disobey your lawyer. He doesnít kill you. She couldíve answered his email. Even now she could pick up a phone rather than emailing him
Yes. Of all the crappy behavior this year, John's was the least crappiest in order of crapitude.

"Sorry mate but I'm not allowed to talk to you" or whatever was the reply he sent.
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Old 12-09-2018, 04:18 AM
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But to not even answer his email until settlement time? I understand that her lawyer instructed her not to have any communication with him, but what happens if you disobey your lawyer. He doesnít kill you. She couldíve answered his email. Even now she could pick up a phone rather than emailing him
Absolutely....I'll never understand her lack of communication....If she'd simply written an email, what would have happened...FM firing her or lawyers suing her as a result...as if......She was ball-less

I am happy she has finally communicated with him but a year later....
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