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Old 01-29-2006, 05:22 AM
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The first time I heard this record, it was like "omfg " But, after listening to it a few times, I started to like it. And now, 3 years later, it's one of my favorites. Too bad they didn't perform songs like thrown down, everybody finds out & steal your heart away on the syw tour.
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Old 01-29-2006, 08:47 AM
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So... Fleetwood Mac, then?
Well anything that has Mick and John is technically Fleetwood Mac but I feel the balance (Christine) was missing.

Nine Lindsey songs I can take, nine Stevie songs I can take but nine Lindsey songs and nine Stevie songs was, for me, too much.

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Old 01-29-2006, 09:19 AM
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Well anything that has Mick and John is technically Fleetwood Mac but I feel the balance (Christine) was missing.

Nine Lindsey songs I can take, nine Stevie songs I can take but nine Lindsey songs and nine Stevie songs was, for me, too much.

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Well, the album definitely was "too much." No doubt the result of the "Should it be a double?" dispute, coupled with the fact that, if you can fit 80 minutes of music onto a CD, why not do it? But fortunately, these days we can also strip down and rearrange the tracklist hoewever we want thanks to these fancy computers. But I agree that the album was just over-stuffed (and still would have been even if it had been six songs each from the three of them).
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Old 01-29-2006, 09:48 AM
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Well, the album definitely was "too much." No doubt the result of the "Should it be a double?" dispute, coupled with the fact that, if you can fit 80 minutes of music onto a CD, why not do it? But fortunately, these days we can also strip down and rearrange the tracklist hoewever we want thanks to these fancy computers. But I agree that the album was just over-stuffed (and still would have been even if it had been six songs each from the three of them).
I think 6 from each of the (three of) them I could have lived with but I agree it still would have made the album too long.

I possibly have the attention span of a retarded ant but anything over 60 minutes in one go I find mystelf getting restless.

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Old 01-29-2006, 09:57 AM
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I completely disagree. Every one of those eighteen tracks was brilliant. Definitely value for money.
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Old 01-29-2006, 02:43 PM
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to typecast Twist of Fate as SHN#2 you really don't do the song right. It's energy is amazing and that melodyline is something completely different from SHN.
No it isn't. Sure, it is a decent song in its own right, but c'mon, if you can't hear that it is the second coming "Second Hand News", it is time for the ear wax remover kit.
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Old 01-29-2006, 04:22 PM
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No it isn't. Sure, it is a decent song in its own right, but c'mon, if you can't hear that it is the second coming "Second Hand News", it is time for the ear wax remover kit.
of course I hear similarities. It's just that the song brings alot more then just a rehash of an old structure. If that's the way you look at it it's time to remove SHN from your internal harddisk and listen to TOF on it's own meritis.
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Old 01-29-2006, 04:30 PM
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"similarities"? It goes WAYYYYY beyond "similarities".

But, at least it is Lindsey plagiarising himself, rather than some other band doing it.
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Old 01-30-2006, 11:41 AM
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SYW is a damn good album. Period.
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Old 03-01-2006, 11:02 AM
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Just bringing this back up since I'm lurking in some older threads.

SYW has so much good stuff; yet, to me - it's not cohesive. Lindsey should have kept most of those songs for his long awaited solo album, and not allow Fleetwood Mac to hijack his work to make it into their own. I wished he had written new songs within the context of the album. Stevie's "Say You Will" and "Thrown Down" as well as his own "Peacekeeper"were perfection for the FM effort. Too bad "Temporary One" couldn't have been added; however, it would have fallen into the "Bleed To Love Her" category of songs that were originallly released as live performances. And there is that little thing of Christine being retired. As for Linds, I wish he had written something new for this project alone to melt into the sound and theme of those songs.

During Destiny Rules - I have to say - I couldn't blame him for telling Mick that he'd keep his masters if he didn't comply with the 2 CD idea. As misguided as the 2 CD project may have been (although - 18 songs is pretty close to a 2 album project anyway), those were his songs - and if he's going to feel he is being antagonized, I can see him using his songs, or lack of them, as leverage.

Anyway - just rambling....
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Well, the album definitely was "too much."
It's an album of uncautious art, considerable novelty & a wealth of ideas, specifically the audacious off-key opening, the striking use of the timpani in the Andante cantabile, & the teasing scale figure that initiates the closing Allegro molto e vivace.

After listening to it, I went to put on my hat, & found that I could not find my head!
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Old 03-01-2006, 01:55 PM
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"similarities"? It goes WAYYYYY beyond "similarities".

But, at least it is Lindsey plagiarising himself, rather than some other band doing it.
Yeah it's not Kodachr... um, I mean Peacekeeper..
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Old 03-01-2006, 02:14 PM
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"similarities"? It goes WAYYYYY beyond "similarities".

But, at least it is Lindsey plagiarising himself, rather than some other band doing it.
I agree.. And I really love TOF...it sounds like he was knowingly using SHN, and tinkering with it to get another sound. Nutin' wrong with that...artist's perogative. It's not like it's been released or anything.
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SYW has so much good stuff; yet, to me - it's not cohesive. Lindsey should have kept most of those songs for his long awaited solo album, and not allow Fleetwood Mac to hijack his work to make it into their own. I wished he had written new songs within the context of the album. Stevie's "Say You Will" and "Thrown Down" as well as his own "Peacekeeper"were perfection for the FM effort. Too bad "Temporary One" couldn't have been added; however, it would have fallen into the "Bleed To Love Her" category of songs that were originallly released as live performances. And there is that little thing of Christine being retired. As for Linds, I wish he had written something new for this project alone to melt into the sound and theme of those songs.
I agree, although I will say that Peacekeeper could have benefited sans the chicken squawk after each chorus. I hate that part of the song, it ruins an otherwise really good song!

I disagree with those who think the album is too long. I say it's more bang for our buck. However, if Christine could have had some of Lindsey's and Stevie's spots on the album, perhaps it wouldn't have felt "overstuffed" as Jqym put it. Perhaps it feels overstuffed because it's a whole lotta Stevie and a whole lotta Lindsey and to top it all off, their contributions sound more like solo songs with Fleetwood and McVie as their backing band. Christine's contribution would have made the album seem much more evenly distributed and the whole project would have jelled more. At the very least, the collaboration of that famous three-part harmony would have made it sound and feel much more like a cohesive Fleetwood Mac album
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Perhaps it feels overstuffed because it's a whole lotta Stevie and a whole lotta Lindsey and to top it all off, their contributions sound more like solo songs with Fleetwood and McVie as their backing band.
It's like a symphony without a scherzo.
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