Mick Fleetwood Says New Album Without Stevie Nicks Will Win Awards

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum

You're still at it.
Thats really not happening is it?
Are you sure you aren't welcomechris in disguise?

Haha, I remember welcomechris..

The mentality is the same. It's like..." well... well... well... then how about Lindsey has to fly Stevie's plane!! How about that huh?? "

[bwboy]

Why are people outraged or offended by the notion that Buckingham McVie could open for Stevie as "very special guests?" There's no shame in it, which is what you seem to be implying.

1) Stevie Nicks opened for Rod Stewart

2) The Pretenders are opening for Stevie now

3) Cyndi Lauper will be opening for Rod Stewart

4) Mariah Carey is opening for Lionel Richie

Other people have said Buckingham McVie will be playing smaller venues at reduced prices. Suggesting Christine and Lindsey open as special guests for another act to reach a wider audience is a smart and practical option. They all get along when they tour, so that shouldn't be an issue. I wouldn't see Buckingham McVie alone, nor would I see Stevie alone. Buckingham McVie AND Stevie Nicks on the same bill? That I would pay big bucks to see.

They don't have to tour with Stevie, since that seems so outrageous to some people. Rod Stewart would have been an interesting match. Maybe even Lady Antebellum, I don't know. The point is, I was not insulting the band when I suggested they open/be very special guests of Stevie or any other act. And I think it's amusing that people are so sensitive about it, when there's no need to be.

[Iamwilliame]

I can envision B/M as a special guest/opening act for someone in the same league as FM and whom they respect as an artist. However, that act will never be Stevie Nicks. We are kidding ourselves if we think Lindsey would ever agree to that.

[BLY]

Originally Posted by Iamwilliame

I can envision B/M as a special guest/opening act for someone in the same league as FM and whom they respect as an artist. However, that act will never be Stevie Nicks. We are kidding ourselves if we think Lindsey would ever agree to that.

This would never happen for so many reasons. The first being this is a Buckingham McVie's show. It should not be an opening act for a Stevie's solo concert. If this was the case, Stevie would be on the album and it would be a "Fleetwood Mac show"

[HomerMcvie]

It never ceases to amaze me, the number of Stevie fans who completely live in a fantasy land...

[elle]

Originally Posted by bwboy

Other people have said Buckingham McVie will be playing smaller venues at reduced prices.

intimate venues and cheaper shows are a win-win for fans. that's what we want!

why anyone would think that paying more to see less, from further away, and hear just half the songs that we could get otherwise, would be a win for us is way beyond my comprehension.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by elle

intimate venues and cheaper shows are a win-win for fans. that's what we want!

why anyone would think that paying more to see less, from further away, and hear just half the songs that we could get otherwise, would be a win for us is way beyond my comprehension.

Amen! I'm FAR more excited about this tour? than I could possibly be for another FM golden moldies tour!!!!

New music, smaller venues, cheaper ticket prices? Yeah, all that is pissing me off!!!

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Amen! I'm FAR more excited about this tour? than I could possibly be for another FM golden moldies tour!!!!

New music, smaller venues, cheaper ticket prices? Yeah, all that is pissing me off!!!

It's like the difference of going to McDonalds. Yep they bring in millions.. And you can get it often. Lots of exposure.

Or your two favorite chefs are coming to Indianapolis, and they won't charge you an arm and a leg to taste their food. A classy move to give all their fans a taste of something different. And the people that like them just like the artist, take a veer off the beaten path.

That's what it's like for me.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

It's like the difference of going to McDonalds. Yep they bring in millions.. And you can get it often. Lots of exposure.

Or your two favorite chefs are coming to Indianapolis, and they won't charge you an arm and a leg to taste their food. A classy move to give all their fans a taste of something different. And the people that like them just like the artist, take a veer off the beaten path.

That's what it's like for me.

Some people just can't understand that everything doesn't equate to money. When you've got plenty of money, but really want to create a work that you're proud of, money be damned. Go out and do a few shows, even if you only break even(or even lose a little). If you're worth 60 million, what is losing a million going to do to you, especially if you're fulfilling your own wishes? Some people just can't understand that...

If the Indy reference is me...Indy would be great(I'm an hour away), but Nashville would be the titties! I can walk(cocktail in hand) to every major venue in Nashville! No driving, no parking, no stuck in traffic....did I mention the cocktail?

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Some people just can't understand that everything doesn't equate to money. When you've got plenty of money, but really want to create a work that you're proud of, money be damned. Go out and do a few shows, even if you only break even(or even lose a little). If you're worth 60 million, what is losing a million going to do to you, especially if you're fulfilling your own wishes? Some people just can't understand that...

If the Indy reference is me...Indy would be great(I'm an hour away), but Nashville would be the titties! I can walk(cocktail in hand) to every major venue in Nashville! No driving, no parking, no stuck in traffic....did I mention the cocktail?

It was just an example. But, have at it!

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Some people just can't understand that everything doesn't equate to money. When you've got plenty of money, but really want to create a work that you're proud of, money be damned. Go out and do a few shows, even if you only break even(or even lose a little). If you're worth 60 million, what is losing a million going to do to you, especially if you're fulfilling your own wishes? Some people just can't understand that...

If the Indy reference is me...Indy would be great(I'm an hour away), but Nashville would be the titties! I can walk(cocktail in hand) to every major venue in Nashville! No driving, no parking, no stuck in traffic....did I mention the cocktail?

In 2005 Bruce Springsteen did an acoustic small venues tour where he played to crowds at only 20% of what he could attact. Bruce did not care about the money but the quality of the product.
BTW....Yes you did mention the cocktail You will be spinning your way down Nashville streets in Stevie shawls with one cocktail in hand

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by elle

intimate venues and cheaper shows are a win-win for fans. that's what we want!

why anyone would think that paying more to see less, from further away, and hear just half the songs that we could get otherwise, would be a win for us is way beyond my comprehension.

True... but some people said B/M would be losing money by touring these smaller venues, so pairing up with another act would be a way to offset that, which could lead to even more dates so more people have the option to see them.

Obviously, a huge fan of B/M would pay big money to see them, whereas a casual fan might be on the fence. That's why a double bill might benefit them, plus lead to more exposure for the album, which never hurts.

Btw, I know they're saying it's a duets album, but does that really mean every song is a duet? Or a majority? I can't believe EVERY song is a duet, hopefully there will be at least a few songs that will spotlight them individually.

[elle]

Originally Posted by bwboy

True... but some people said B/M would be losing money by touring these smaller venues, so pairing up with another act would be a way to offset that, which could lead to even more dates so more people have the option to see them.

i see this is hard for you to understand - they are NOT doing this for the money. if they don't care, why do you?

quantity is not always better than quality. remember when Nicks opened for Rod Stewart? remember how much her fans hated it and wished she'd never done it? she had a new album to promote and she was doing a shortened set with like zero songs from her new album (or maybe one song?). nobody got to hear her new songs. and her fans hated being among all the Rod fans.

so yeah your little proposition would completely beat the purpose for the tour in the first place. for both the fans and for Christine and Lindsey. if they cared about that, they would have just done Fleetwood Mac moldies tour and throw in one new song.

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by elle

i see this is hard for you to understand - they are NOT doing this for the money. if they don't care, why do you?

quantity is not always better than quality. remember when Nicks opened for Rod Stewart? remember how much her fans hated it and wished she'd never done it? she had a new album to promote and she was doing a shortened set with like zero songs from her new album (or maybe one song?). nobody got to hear her new songs. and her fans hated being among all the Rod fans.

so yeah your little proposition would completely beat the purpose for the tour in the first place. for both the fans and for Christine and Lindsey. if they cared about that, they would have just done Fleetwood Mac moldies tour and throw in one new song.

I'm not concerned about their finances, I wasn't even the one who brought it up. I did respond to to it, yes. Just a healthy discussion of ideas. Clearly, the idea of B/M going out on a double bill is an insane and offensive idea to their hardcore fans on this board, and should not even be discussed. Consider this blasphemous idea banished!

I wasn't here when Stevie toured with Rod, so I was not aware it didn't go over well. Seemed like a good idea to me, though. Perhaps that would have been a harbinger of people's feeling toward a B/M pairing with another act.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by bwboy

I'm not concerned about their finances, I wasn't even the one who brought it up. I did respond to to it, yes. Just a healthy discussion of ideas. Clearly, the idea of B/M going out on a double bill is an insane and offensive idea to their hardcore fans on this board, and should not even be discussed. Consider this blasphemous idea banished!

I wasn't here when Stevie toured with Rod, so I was not aware it didn't go over well. Seemed like a good idea to me, though. Perhaps that would have been a harbinger of people's feeling toward a B/M pairing with another act.

IMHO Rod Stewart was so rude and arrogant to Stevie. He really is full of himself. The concert was billed as a double bill even though Stevie opened. It was stated that each would join each other during their gigs. Wrong! Rod NEVER joined Stevie on her stage yet Stevie had to come out and sing Rod Stewart songs during his set. They did play Leather and Lace a few times (only) but it was during HIS set. Rod had to read the words off a computer screen while singing with Stevie. It really showed the lack of interest he had in Stevie or her music. He thought he was too big of a star to come on stage with Stevie. Stevie was a trooper and carried on but I would love to hear what she really thinks.
When Stevie toured with Don Henley it was a double bill too. Don opened but Stevie joined him on stage and vice versa.