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Most surprising to me is that no one in the band will talk about what happened. The canned answers and lack of transparency imply that there’s some reason for kicking Lindsey out that we haven’t heard. I get Stevie’s logic - she doesn’t want to be near Lindsey, period - but the rest of them confuse me. Even Stevie has never had a problem bashing people in the press or “speaking her mind” in public. Why not just say she felt like Lindsey was disrespectful towards her? Why make it about the scheduling?
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All these people claiming to have the inside scoop about Stevie’s miserable life with no family conveniently leave out that she had a close loving relationship with her parents that most could only dream of having. I’m sure it brought her great joy. Who knows what her life is like - probably like most people is a mix of joy, regret, happiness, sadness, and a lot in between. Claiming that Stevie’s life has been about pining over a man and anger someone else married him is just more sexism that permeates this board.
Yes, Lindsey has a wife and kids but I’m sure his life is more complicated than that. He clearly has lived with anger much of his life, demonstrated by his often poor and childish behavior in the past. And that fueled writing some brilliant songs. There is a line between being a hard core fan and an obsessive one that thinks they really “know” the star. |
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They’ve already lied about why they fired him. That smacks of making things up to justify an action. |
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If you have to make something up to justify the action, what is the actual reason for the action though? I doubt it was over smirking, and Lindsey’s lawsuit disputes the claim that there was a scheduling conflict. Maybe his reaction to walking out to a recording was more of a blowout than he’d like to admit and that was the last straw? I just don’t get why they’d lie. Stevie and Mick are generally forthcoming with their opinions so I don’t see the point of lying. As a huge Stevie fan I’d be more likely to accept and respect this decision if there was actual reasoning behind it. If Stevie said he was disrespectful towards her I’d believe it and I’d be upset about it but it would make sense. But this back and forth does not make sense and none of it sits well with me.
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Just speculation, but it's one of the few reasons that I can imagine where they have to make up something because Lindsey didn't really do anything that horrible, yet Stevie is still keen to get rid of him and loath to say why. I remember a while back, a TMZ reporter asked Mick if that were the case re: Campbell. A TMZ reporter also asked Mick if there had been an ultimatum. One of those turned out to be true. Maybe the other is as well. Last edited by sodascouts; 10-12-2018 at 11:06 AM.. |
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So no one can be surprised really that she got to a point where she decided you know what, I don't even want to tour with him. But her method of handling it -- giving the band an ultimatum (and she knows Mick well enough to know how he'd choose)-- and most importantly the band's response-- ok well, you bring more money so we'll kick him out with a total disregard is utterly shameful. And then the refusing to even talk to him just reeks of them hiding behind their lawyers' advice of don't talk to him so you won't say or do anything that undoes our case. I think they expected him to do what FM has always done, unite behind whatever bs cover story they've concocted for the press. His filing seems like him telling them he's not going to enable their dysfunction any more.
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We all know she was looking for any reason to bring in Mike Campbell, hence making her a Heartbreaker. That has been her dream forever as silly and gross as it is. She got her wish now I hope it haunts her like a ghost through a fog forever.
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Lindsey has been tweeting today -
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I'm a bit nonplussed by some of the posts about John's cancer--I always assumed it was common knowledge that when they found out he was ill, S & M desperately searched for a replacement, so they could keep the advance from the tour promoters from Australia and NZ. I forgot where I read it and how it was settled, but I assumed every one here knew
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You know, having read through most of it, I like how he admits LBCM was intended to be a Fleetwood Mac album.
However, that means he was lying the whole time about how it just felt like a duet album. Point being that they all lie, even Lindsey, when it behooves them.
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It was meant to be the same organic process as TITN, SYW, etc
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The more salient point I would think is that, due to his (apparently misplaced) desire to protect the legacy of the band's unity, he was forced into the position of either selling it as something that they wanted to keep as a duet from fairly early on in the process (btw, it's not like he said that they set out to make a duet album from the outset) or shelving the project after Stevie refused to come on board. So we should be commending his efforts and commiserating with his position, not saying "Lindsey lied when it behooved him."
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However, to say that when it turned out it HAD to be a duets album that it made sense (faith in cycles etc), I don't disagree with that. Maybe TITN should have been a duets album
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I know we're stepping in to the realm of the hypothetical here, which is dangerous and often a huge waste of time, but it always struck me that LB was "taking one for the team" with all that duo album talk. |
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