For the first time Donald Trump seems Presidential.

[Newzchspy]

Originally Posted by becca

Oh, okay... so Trump news today is him saying how he wanted to physically hit speakers at the Dem convention, especially some "little guy". Feel better?

Is that also a sorry, freedom of speech does not extend to 'foreigners' (worked for U.S. based companies many times, lived in three states, family in two)?

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A lil Sensitive there?? Who said you don't have Free Speech?? Not anyone here that I recall. I just stated that your VOTE and more importantly, opinion, on our election does not matter, just as mine does not for Mr. Trudeau.

[becca]

Originally Posted by Newzchspy

I just stated that your VOTE and more importantly, opinion, on our election does not matter, just as mine does not for Mr. Trudeau.

And thank you very much for that just on the chance I might be some severely deluded Canadian somehow unaware of such facts.

This was used in the convention speech, but also again today.

Trump: “The number of police officers killed in the line of duty has risen by almost 50 percent compared to this point last year.”

FACT CHECK (NYTimes): In fact, the Officer Down Memorial Page, which tracks officer deaths, reports that 68 police officers have been killed so far this year, almost exactly the same as the 69 who were killed in the same period last year.

Now the reason you don't want a president knowingly manipulating people to outrage and reaction based on false information should be very much of current concern considering the nation that was invaded based on another President's false information leading to outrage and fear. That was Iraq and (unless the plan was to occupy it forever) the power vacuum and the U.S. military armaments there has led to an entity that is effecting many other nations right now. At the time many people in the U.S. believed Iraq had something to do with the WTC attack and claims that they were developing nuclear (or nuculur if you prefer) weapons were fabricated or at best grossly exaggerated.

Then again, some may well think it the very height of seeming presidential to pass off half-truths, exaggerations and lies (while being told to boycott CNN and not listen to the speeches of the 'enemy').

[iamnotafraid]

Originally Posted by becca

Then again, some may well think it the very height of seeming presidential to pass off half-truths, exaggerations and lies...

You must have heard Obama's speech today about the $400,000,000 payoff for hostages today.

They think we are all idiots. That's the part I hate.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by iamnotafraid

You must have heard Obama's speech today about the $400,000,000 payoff for hostages today.

They think we are all idiots. That's the part I hate.

It seems you live for conspiracy theories. That is how we are in the mess we are in.
The world is not flat
The sun does not orbit the earth
Bush did not blow up the World Trade Center
Obama was not born in Kenya


Going back to your original post....yeah Donald Trump is talking presidential LMAO
The sheep are moved very easily though.
What would Jesus do?
Make America hate again?
Get ready for the landslide....and its ALL because of voters just like you

Never believe any politician. Be objective and do your own research and then THINK
Please read this or google it. Even Trump's campaign says Trump is incorrect in what he is saying
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-st...ed-iran-video/

[Newzchspy]

Originally Posted by iamnotafraid

You must have heard Obama's speech today about the $400,000,000 payoff for hostages today.

They think we are all idiots. That's the part I hate.

Just ignore @becca @iamnotafraid, she's been drinking the Canadian Spring Fed Kool Aid that the Canadian Foreign press has been feeding her as well as CNN, MSNBC and many other liberal outlets.......

How can I make this clear: Your opinion on our politics does not matter. Nor does your vote since you can't vote here. Wanna talk about Lindsey and Stevie, FINE, have at it, BUT what you or your countrymen think about our election is as irrelevant as mine is on yours.

[iamnotafraid]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

1. It seems you live for conspiracy theories. That is how we are in the mess we are in.

2. Going back to your original post....yeah Donald Trump is talking presidential LMAO


3. What would Jesus do?


4. Get ready for the landslide....and its ALL because of voters just like you

5. Never believe any politician.

6. Even Trump's campaign says Trump is incorrect in what he is saying
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-st...ed-iran-video/

1. Where did you get that from?

2. The Presidential part related only to his acceptance speech.

3. I'd be very careful if I were you in using the name of Christ in that way.

4. Voter like me? Wrong Again. I'm not voting for anyone.

5. Trust me I don't.

6. Like I suggested elsewhere, take a look at the Drudge Report. You trust the others?


You reap what you sow. I believe this is why we have
these two particular candidates to choose from. We
lose either way. I just believe one's worse than the
other.

[becca]

I think a major problem with some parts of the U.S. the last few decades is people are simply not getting all the real information, they are getting completely made up stuff sometimes meant to manufacture outrage.

Here's a great example, $400,000,000 paid to Iran being suddenly revealed over six months after it was announced by the White House. You can't pay someone with their own money; that was Iranian money that was being held all this time from when the Shah was deposed. It is however very well documented that the Reagan administration was selling arms illegally (Reagan 'forgot' and Bush Sr. 'wasn't there' and Oliver North sealed his lips) to Iran post-revolution to fund mercenary rebels to fight a democratically elected socialist government in Nicaragua. At the same time the U.S. was openly supporting and arming Saddam Hussein administration in Iraq who were at war with Iran and Osama Bin-Laden in Afghanistan fighting Russia.

Also if your xenophobia extends to Canadians now you really must have nobody left in the rest of the planet, or is Trump's admiration of Putin enough for you to trust Russia?

I'm also reminded of the born in Kenya conspiracies requiring of such silly minutia about typefaces on old documents in a fairly newly created state and people knowing their Kenyan born black skinned son would need a phony announcement in a newspaper to one day run for president.

People with real information and education are very concerned for the future of the U.S. and the world because of Trump; former heads of the CIA and FBI. Many long time Republicans even, but Canadians with access to non-slanted reporting are drinking funny water? Just get some real information from long standing sources... please stop believing those with histories of manipulating with half truths and deliberate misinformation or else rule your selves out as eligible voters.

Climate change is happening even if what you see are one person with scientific credentials employed by big oil getting the same amount of attention as the one of thousands of non-affiliated scientists saying this is accelerating. If you like a crisis try that one on for size even if it means admitting Al Gore was right about something. Statements I have read and heard like not agreeing with Hillary on anything, 0%, are the kind of silly absolutist comments that make people despair within the U.S. and outside it. If you find yourself saying things like that you have gone off the edge.

[becca]

Originally Posted by Newzchspy

Just ignore @becca @iamnotafraid, she's been drinking the Canadian Spring Fed Kool Aid that the Canadian Foreign press has been feeding her as well as CNN, MSNBC and many other liberal outlets.......

How can I make this clear: Your opinion on our politics does not matter. Nor does your vote since you can't vote here. Wanna talk about Lindsey and Stevie, FINE, have at it, BUT what you or your countrymen think about our election is as irrelevant as mine is on yours.

In other words "shut up foreigner" which is what I figured you were trying to say earlier. I have many friends and family in the U.S. and care about them very much.

[olive]

Originally Posted by becca

In other words "shut up foreigner" which is what I figured you were trying to say earlier. I have many friends and family in the U.S. and care about them very much.

And as one of our closest neighbors (Mexico too) you do have a steak in the outcome of this and any national election and the possible effects and or repercussions from it, yours and any other human who inhabits this planet ..your opinions are welcomed

[becca]

Originally Posted by olive

And as one of our closest neighbors (Mexico too) you do have a steak in the outcome of this and any national election and the possible effects and or repercussions from it, yours and any other human who inhabits this planet ..your opinions are welcomed

Thanks Olive! And when I see a neighboring town considering electing as dog catcher someone proud of knowing nothing about dogs I will speak up then too.

Another thought: I guess it was also our Canadian media that our Liberal Prime-Minister relied on for information that kept us out of the pre-emptive invasion of Iraq circa 2003 (and which Condoleeza Rice said she'd never forgive us for). Too bad Tony Blair didn't check in with us maybe?

[iamnotafraid]

Originally Posted by olive

And as one of our closest neighbors (Mexico too) you do have a steak in the outcome of this...

Did you mean to say burrito?

[Newzchspy]

Originally Posted by becca

In other words "shut up foreigner" which is what I figured you were trying to say earlier. I have many friends and family in the U.S. and care about them very much.

No, not at all, BUT I too have family north of here and what they say OR vote does not matter!! You're opinion is of course welcome, BUT it does not matter. Can you vote here?? Nah, didn't think so. So, what you think or say or vote does not matter here.

Originally Posted by olive

And as one of our closest neighbors (Mexico too) you do have a steak in the outcome of this and any national election and the possible effects and or repercussions from it, yours and any other human who inhabits this planet ..your opinions are welcomed

I have no "steak" in the elections of Mexico or Canada for that matter. BUT , I do have a stake in our current election process.

Originally Posted by becca

Thanks Olive! And when I see a neighboring town considering electing as dog catcher someone proud of knowing nothing about dogs I will speak up then too.

Another thought: I guess it was also our Canadian media that our Liberal Prime-Minister relied on for information that kept us out of the pre-emptive invasion of Iraq circa 2003 (and which Condoleeza Rice said she'd never forgive us for). Too bad Tony Blair didn't check in with us maybe?

What are you talking about? Tony Blair has no issues and is doing quite well for himself. England's issues are internal, not what happened in the middle east. I guess now you're also an expert on all things Stevie, Canadian and British? Wow, the universal know it all!! Can I please have tomorrow's winning lotto numbers as well.