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Back then, no one who was trying to recreate or further the experimental sound of Tusk was doing it because they thought it would make them money or get the album a slot on Casey Kasem's countdown. From his Tusk experiene, Lindsey knew that Law and Order was not likely to be a blockbuster. He could have made it more commercial if he wanted. He could have made more songs in the Trouble mode, but he decided not to. Michele |
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I specifically was not not talking about the industry standard. I specifically mentioned a "rational standard." Selling four million double records worldwide is not a flop by a rational standard and it means four million people (two miilion here) got more exposure to him from the record and then hundreds of thousands more on the 18 month tour. That is quite wave to ride on into your solo record a year or so later That wave certainly had to have helped him sell L&O and Trouble, which were successful, but not blockbusters.
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Did Tusk help his solo career? I doubt it. But even if it did, when he took those 13 months to make Tusk, I doubt he was even thinking of a solo career yet. That didn't come into his head until after he became alienated from his bandmates following Tusk. So, it cannot be said he went into Tusk to launch a solo career that hadn't materialized yet. He didn't create Tusk as a wave to ride into his solo career. Rumours and Trouble are waves. Tusk and the bulk of Law and Order are more like undertow, the current flowing beneath the surface moving somewhere beyond Billboard. Michele |
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I kind of doubt that he was not working on solo songs or at least songs away from FM. After all, I believe he came into the Tusk sessions with competed songs and he had worked with other artists outside of FM a la Magnet and Steel So, I think that at some point either right before or early into the Tusk sessions, he began contempating a solo record. But, that is just my speculation. And, I certainly do not think he created Tusk as a means to bolster his solo record. I do not think I said that. I do think, however, that the success of the Tusk era helped propel L&O. Again, to me that is a no brainer. I think he reasserted this method on GI with less success. Then, he morphed the next solo record into TITN, which was hugely successful by any standard. After that, he never could crank out a record fast enough to capitalize on the wave of FM popularity, save for perhaps UTS, which was not really as accessible as his last five solo records. Last edited by strandinthewind; 04-15-2008 at 05:49 PM.. |
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Now you take that back immediately. You witnessed me when I was there in the US of F*cking A just to see her perform with Lindsey. I would NEVER say you hate LB although you have NOT once, EVER in our discussions defended him if it took a small offer for your muse.
I can play games over here, but this is just unbelievably rude, and only to axe me out of the discussion. And I'm biting my tongue over here. *di*t. She had three or four songs per album. Just like the other two.
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I don't think Tusk helped him release a solo record. I don't think Tusk added to his public cache more than Rumours did. Rumours is what gave him entree into everything else and Law and Order was more like the less successful Tusk than it was Rumours. Since he never released a solo album as close to an FM venture after Tusk, I don't see him having repeated a pattern at all. Your point was that Lindsey uses FM to launch his solo albums, when most of the time that he's been in FM he hasn't even had a solo album ready to launch. If you're saying that he's only been in FM so that he can get the publicity needed so the record buyers will be ready for him 2 - 5 years later when he does have a solo album to launch -- well . . . ok. That's what I'd call premature launching and I think he ought to see a doctor about it. Anyway, for the first time, he does have a solo album now (at least he says he does), while he simultaneously has the possibility of working with FM before him as well. If he uses the FM/Sheryl Crow machine to promote that solo album while he's in FM, I'll be happy. I don't think he's ever done that before, while you think he's always been doing it. Thus, your point! Michele |
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In any event, if you don't hate her, so be it. As for defending him, I most certainly have. Though I think it was an awful thing to do to your friends, I understood why he left before the TITN tour. I also routinely say his is very talented, I like his work, and were it not for him in the beginning and mostly thereafter, La Nicks's songs would likely have had less appeal -- with her it all depends on the producer and others, like Iovine, have done her justice as well. As for being rude, it was not intentional. I rather thought I was agreeig with you as you lately hae made comments like Stevie should stay away from FM, etc. So, sorry if I misread that. As for the three or four soings, I agree and it was not enough her (too much writing) or for him (wanted an outlet for his other more experimental work) or CM (too much material) So, I think they all released solo records for the just about the same reasons and to call her out for it and not them is wrong |
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It was a clarification because I did not think you would judge it sales wise against Rumours. And, I believe it was in the first response, not the 50th - post number 19 to be exact - your comment was in post 18 and in response to my initial comment in post 15 about Tusk being a "highly popular record" - four million double records sold world wide and a hugely attended 18 month world tour and all
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Now, I see the guys equally. Well, I see Stevie more, only because she's on tour more. I never saw Chris on tour at all, but it's not because I don't love her very much. I just was seeing the Jacksons 11 times in 1984 and I . . . dropped the ball. Michele |
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Whoa, if you don't fly around the world to see herthen your fandom is questioned?
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Well, now, hold on a minute, Le Strand. Let's discuss this. You should never take my word for anything at the outset ipso facto beano because as I have told you, fully 18 percent of everything I say is completely concocted out of my febrile brain & plundering pirate persona. I poop puns. I natter neologisms. I co-op coinages. I morph monologues into sallies of sesquipedalian syllepses. I am the James Joyce of the Ledge.
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