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Old 05-01-2018, 11:35 PM
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I don't know if another album with all five is realistic. If it is done, I think it would be very phony and nothing like the original greatness. This band keeps using marriage and divorce analogies which seem soap opera dramatic but in their case probably apply. Expecting them to go back to that setup is probably like asking a long divorced couple to get hitched again. Something is irretrievably broken and nothing they can do about it.

And at this point in their lives, may also be a risk. We're seeing artists not taking care of themselves, self medicating with new painkillers, while still doing big shows and long tours just dropping left right and centre.

I just wish them all health and happiness whatever they're doing. That's the important thing.

They've got in a rut which isn't much fun. I go to very few concerts as it's a long way to travel, a lot of planning. I went to last tour only because Christine was back. But I don't want to see bands just rotating set list.

At first when I heard about this I thought wtf? and it's obvious something has gone down between various members. But depending on new set list, I may be intrigued enough to check it out. And see some of the traditional pre Buckingham/Nicks work shine. (I say that as a huge Rumours fan too!)
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Old 05-02-2018, 12:48 PM
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Ha ha, did you see that someone on the Rumours side of the forum is branding those that would like to come here to have a quiet place for discussion as the "Children of Stevie"? Nope, no cult here, just nice to get a breath of fresh air to discuss things like an adult instead of name-calling and hysteria. Besides, shouldn't some of those folks be glad there are people here having discussions about the current line-up after the constant "this should be moved to the Post-Rumours forum" drumbeat? (as if the band has ceased to be an entity now)
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Old 05-02-2018, 04:59 PM
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Ha ha, did you see that someone on the Rumours side of the forum is branding those that would like to come here to have a quiet place for discussion as the "Children of Stevie"? Nope, no cult here, just nice to get a breath of fresh air to discuss things like an adult instead of name-calling and hysteria. Besides, shouldn't some of those folks be glad there are people here having discussions about the current line-up after the constant "this should be moved to the Post-Rumours forum" drumbeat? (as if the band has ceased to be an entity now)
Interesting take, because I've often thought "Goodness, how old are you?" when reading some things on the Rumours forum.

I don't hang out over here because I've got some "Stevie can do no wrong" complex, I visit this forum to talk about an upcoming tour that I'm looking forward to featuring four senior citizens that for whatever reason are no longer hanging out with the fifth senior citizen. And because I don't feel the need to get that worked up about that decision. Life's too short.
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Old 05-02-2018, 06:32 PM
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Ha ha, did you see that someone on the Rumours side of the forum is branding those that would like to come here to have a quiet place for discussion as the "Children of Stevie"? Nope, no cult here, just nice to get a breath of fresh air to discuss things like an adult instead of name-calling and hysteria. Besides, shouldn't some of those folks be glad there are people here having discussions about the current line-up after the constant "this should be moved to the Post-Rumours forum" drumbeat? (as if the band has ceased to be an entity now)
I didn't see that because I'm spending very little time in that forum now, but it wouldn't take me more than two, maybe three, guesses as to who that was. And you are right, there was so much insistence that the new incarnation only be talked about in the Post Rumours forum, and now that we're doing it, they are still griping. Truly some pieces of work over there.
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Old 05-02-2018, 07:57 PM
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Yes, this forum IS a relief... except for the odd pornography threads, or whatever they are
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Old 05-02-2018, 08:38 PM
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Right--There's 3 of them for God's sake. WTH
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Old 05-03-2018, 12:06 AM
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Right--There's 3 of them for God's sake. WTH
Yep, don't recall that ever happening on the Ledge before and I've been visiting here on and off for more than 20 years.
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Old 05-03-2018, 05:42 AM
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Yep, don't recall that ever happening on the Ledge before and I've been visiting here on and off for more than 20 years.
I've seen a couple here before, but it's odd they're only on the post-Rumours board and not the other ones.

I'm just thankful the moderators catch them and delete them so quickly. Great job, guys!
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Old 05-03-2018, 08:42 AM
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As I've already said in another thread on the Rumours forum, discussions about the new line-up in our opinion (meaning we Moderators) should stay in the Rumours forum. If anyone feels more at ease here it's not a problem at all but I don't see why anyone should give up the right to post there.

About the spam threads, we Moderators try our best but the site is old now, the web isn't the same as two decades ago, and as you can imagine we also have other commitments during the day.

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Old 05-03-2018, 09:22 AM
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As I've already said in another thread on the Rumours forum, discussions about the new line-up in our opinion (meaning we Moderators) should stay in the Rumours forum. If anyone feels more at ease here it's not a problem at all but I don't see why anyone should give up your right to post there.

About the spam threads, we Moderators try our best but the site is old now, the web isn't the same as two decades ago, and as you can imagine we also have other commitments during the day.
Thank you for clarifying.

I think I wish to stay here. I know that moderators have difficult thankless job at times, and this situation with change in the group was unexpected. Emotions are running high and that's natural when we first hear news such as this. But if I may say so, I wasn't feeling comfortable with what felt was 'character assassination' in the Rumours forum, people suggesting going and heckling the group at their shows etc. That is concerning to me and I personally feel is out of line and irresponsible.

I could and maybe should have reported it privately and tried to continue, but right now have a lot going a lot going on in my life, my health balance is shaky, I'm supposed to be avoiding environments I find stressful so thought it was best I just move out of it all. At least until things cool off a bit. I'd rather step out than end up posting something inappropriate and out of proportion myself, that disrespects the standards of this board.

Peace and ty.

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Old 05-03-2018, 09:54 AM
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As I've already said in another thread on the Rumours forum, discussions about the new line-up in our opinion (meaning we Moderators) should stay in the Rumours forum. If anyone feels more at ease here it's not a problem at all but I don't see why anyone should give up the right to post there.

About the spam threads, we Moderators try our best but the site is old now, the web isn't the same as two decades ago, and as you can imagine we also have other commitments during the day.
You guys are doing a great job, SisterNightroad! Keeping the peace may seem like a thankless job, but your efforts are much valued and appreciated.

As far as posting about the current lineup on Rumours vs post-Rumours, I'm torn. I think most people don't want to seem like they're rubbing Lindsey's firing in his fans faces when they talk about their excitement for the tour. I appreciate their feelings, which run the gamut from anger to sadness, so like I said, I'm torn.
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Old 05-03-2018, 02:34 PM
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Thank you for clarifying.

I think I wish to stay here. I know that moderators have difficult thankless job at times, and this situation with change in the group was unexpected. Emotions are running high and that's natural when we first hear news such as this. But if I may say so, I wasn't feeling comfortable with what felt was 'character assassination' in the Rumours forum, people suggesting going and heckling the group at their shows etc. That is concerning to me and I personally feel is out of line and irresponsible.

I could and maybe should have reported it privately and tried to continue, but right now have a lot going a lot going on in my life, my health balance is shaky, I'm supposed to be avoiding environments I find stressful so thought it was best I just move out of it all. At least until things cool off a bit. I'd rather step out than end up posting something inappropriate and out of proportion myself, that disrespects the standards of this board.

Peace and ty.
I'm sorry to hear about your health issues. I hope you feel better soon. Yes, you are right, it is stressful wading through all the negativity over there. I keep telling myself I am going to step away and try to avoid all the fuss, but somehow I keep coming back to check for any real, solid news. Against my better judgement I snapped and got involved in an argument with one of the loudest voices over there. Perhaps I should take the high road and try to make peace with them. Fighting over a bunch of people none of us know isn't worth stress and bad feelings.
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Old 05-04-2018, 04:24 AM
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As I've already said in another thread on the Rumours forum, discussions about the new line-up in our opinion (meaning we Moderators) should stay in the Rumours forum. If anyone feels more at ease here it's not a problem at all but I don't see why anyone should give up the right to post there.
Realistically though, this is a new line-up, a post Rumours lineup. If Billy and Rick and Dave and Bekka were post-Rumours then Neil and Mike should be too.

There is absolutely nothing different now than there was in 1987.
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Old 05-04-2018, 04:28 AM
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About the spam threads, we Moderators try our best but the site is old now, the web isn't the same as two decades ago, and as you can imagine we also have other commitments during the day.
I don't think any of us criticize the moderators. There's no doubt that this place isn't the same since Michele left, like it or not.

Its an old site, that is out of date, incomplete and not going anywhere fast. It needs an owner with resources and a commitment to recording the legacy of Fleetwood Mac. At this late stage in the game I can't see that happening.
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Realistically though, this is a new line-up, a post Rumours lineup. If Billy and Rick and Dave and Bekka were post-Rumours then Neil and Mike should be too.

There is absolutely nothing different now than there was in 1987.
Yes, but obviously this isn't the Post Rumours band at all since neither Mike nor Neil have anything to do with Billy, Rick, Dave and Becca, so idealistically it would need a forum of its own, but realistically on an old site like this one it's impossible without overpowering anything.
You also have to think that any sub-forum of this site in reality was meant to talk in a retrospective manner about its subject (saving Chit Chat I guess), so even the Rumours forum is actually about the band from 1975 to 1987. By the time The Dance came noone expected a reunion so from that point onward the Rumours board has been used for every subsequent output for convenience.

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I don't think any of us criticize the moderators. There's no doubt that this place isn't the same since Michele left, like it or not.

Its an old site, that is out of date, incomplete and not going anywhere fast. It needs an owner with resources and a commitment to recording the legacy of Fleetwood Mac. At this late stage in the game I can't see that happening.
Michele hasn't left, she just sold the site, so she's not the owner anymore and doesn't have all the economical burdens that come with that, but she's still the administrator.

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