Stevie goes to Europe

[sue]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

I hope so too. My opinion is that she doesn't identify as an artist anymore but more as an evening entertainer. I'm with you on Gold Dust Woman... that shaking head "dance" is actually offensive. What if there are addicts or recovering addicts in the audience?

Also I was bummed Fireflies was not on the 2018-2019 Tour setlist...doesn't matter that Lindsey wasn't on the tour, they still sang 3 of his songs, they could have sung Fireflies.

That stupid stupid dance during Gold dust woman was toe cringing embarrassing..
I never understood why someone …in the band, management, lighting bloke just someone, never said…
that dance you do it’s bad, real bad.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by sue

That stupid stupid dance during Gold dust woman was toe cringing embarrassing..
I never understood why someone …in the band, management, lighting bloke just someone, never said…
that dance you do it’s bad, real bad.

Because $he's not the BOSS. You criticize Mama AND YOU'RE GONE.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by sue

That stupid stupid dance during Gold dust woman was toe cringing embarrassing..
I never understood why someone …in the band, management, lighting bloke just someone, never said…
that dance you do it’s bad, real bad.

She told her audience every tour she asks Waddy if Gold Dust Woman can be dropped and he says No. I doubt that, she’s the boss and she loves doing those bizarre shakes that get the crowd going. GDW could be 7 minutes top live and she could do another song!

[BigAl84]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

She told her audience every tour she asks Waddy if Gold Dust Woman can be dropped and he says No. I doubt that, she’s the boss and she loves doing those bizarre shakes that get the crowd going. GDW could be 7 minutes top live and she could do another song!

She's all about the big numbers that get the big audience response. She's continued to exploit Free Falling because it's one giant sing along that goes over really well. Now she'll exploit Christine's death for the next five years to pull on everyone's heart strings during landslide - making everyone forget just how overdone that song had become since 1997. Plus she's incapable of thinking of a different way to pay tribute to Christine, the lowest common denominator, the most obvious choice of all time is to use Landslide. That's all she gravitates towards these days. The most boring, expected, status quo decisions. But the entertainment writers love the nostalgic chatty grandma schtick that she's leaned so heavily into...

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by BigAl84

She's all about the big numbers that get the big audience response. She's continued to exploit Free Falling because it's one giant sing along that goes over really well. Now she'll exploit Christine's death for the next five years to pull on everyone's heart strings during landslide - making everyone forget just how overdone that song had become since 1997. Plus she's incapable of thinking of a different way to pay tribute to Christine, the lowest common denominator, the most obvious choice of all time is to use Landslide. That's all she gravitates towards these days. The most boring, expected, status quo decisions. But the entertainment writers love the nostalgic chatty grandma schtick that she's leaned so heavily into...

This is a really well thought out point. You're right. With the video wall behind her, she could do Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You, Sara or even Crystal!
Free Fallin' has been played every show since October 2018. Please give it up.

[BigAl84]

I hate to drone on about this stuff, but it's her really annoying combination of super lazy decisions yet extremely calculated. That zaps any sincerity out of it, for me personally. She knows Landslide is a big, emotional, casual-fan crowd favorite. So how do we amp it up yet another notch? Tie Christine's death into the mix. Super gross, in my opinion. I'm surprised she doesn't have a little spritzer water bottle in her pocket to mist her face with for some extra theatrics.

I wouldn't feel this way if she would have discontinued the Free Falling tribute by the next tour she did following Tom's passing. The fact that it's still there 7 years later proves it's less and less about Tom every day and more about wanting a schmaltzy schtick moment at the end of her show that completely lets her off the hook.

I'm sure by this time next year the Christine stories will be even more exaggerated and completely skewed from reality. But don't expect the photo montage to be updated with different photos, that would be too much work for this well oiled roadshow carousel of hitz. End of rant.

[BrownEyedGirl26]

Originally Posted by BigAl84

I hate to drone on about this stuff, but it's her really annoying combination of super lazy decisions yet extremely calculated. That zaps any sincerity out of it, for me personally. She knows Landslide is a big, emotional, casual-fan crowd favorite. So how do we amp it up yet another notch? Tie Christine's death into the mix. Super gross, in my opinion. I'm surprised she doesn't have a little spritzer water bottle in her pocket to mist her face with for some extra theatrics.

I wouldn't feel this way if she would have discontinued the Free Falling tribute by the next tour she did following Tom's passing. The fact that it's still there 7 years later proves it's less and less about Tom every day and more about wanting a schmaltzy schtick moment at the end of her show that completely lets her off the hook.

I'm sure by this time next year the Christine stories will be even more exaggerated and completely skewed from reality. But don't expect the photo montage to be updated with different photos, that would be too much work for this well oiled roadshow carousel of hitz. End of rant.

Hi BigAl84,

Is there any way, we can make suggestions and let her know what is best for her, going forward, so we can all stop droning on and on about her song and costume choices, etc...? I know I'm dreaming but I can't help but wonder If only.....!

[BigAl84]

Originally Posted by BrownEyedGirl26

Hi BigAl84,

Is there any way, we can make suggestions and let her know what is best for her, going forward, so we can all stop droning on and on about her song and costume choices, etc...? I know I'm dreaming but I can't help but wonder If only.....!

I’m not one to tell somebody what’s best for them, but I do wonder if she has any idea how she’s alienated a huge chunk of her long-term fanbase.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by BrownEyedGirl26

Hi BigAl84,

Is there any way, we can make suggestions and let her know what is best for her, going forward, so we can all stop droning on and on about her song and costume choices, etc...? I know I'm dreaming but I can't help but wonder If only.....!

BigAl is allowed his opinion just like anybody else. Why do you try to stifle it?

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by BigAl84

I wouldn't feel this way if she would have discontinued the Free Falling tribute by the next tour she did following Tom's passing. The fact that it's still there 7 years later proves it's less and less about Tom every day and more about wanting a schmaltzy schtick moment at the end of her show that completely lets her off the hook.

Free Fallin' should have been played on her Australia and New Zealand 2017 Songs From The Vault Tour it took place from November 1 through November 25, 2017. If Mike Campbell's work as a Heartbreaker or songwriter had to be showcased on the 2018-2019 Fleetwood Mac Tour, they could have done Stop Draggin' My Heart Around with Neil on vocals or Mike since Mike's singing voice sounds like Tom's, Freedom from Behind The Mask, Whole Lotta Trouble, or Blue Denim. It is what it is. Behind The Mask Tour setlist blew the 2018-2019 Tour away.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

Free Fallin' should have been played on her Australia and New Zealand 2017 Songs From The Vault Tour it took place from November 1 through November 25, 2017. If Mike Campbell's work as a Heartbreaker or songwriter had to be showcased on the 2018-2019 Fleetwood Mac Tour, they could have done Stop Draggin' My Heart Around with Neil on vocals or Mike since Mike's singing voice sounds like Tom's, Freedom from Behind The Mask, Whole Lotta Trouble, or Blue Denim. It is what it is. Behind The Mask Tour setlist blew the 2018-2019 Tour away.

And?

People would still have been pissed.

The lyrics to “Free Fallin’” were poignant as a tribute to its author, especially how she slightly changed them (“I want to write your name in the sky”).

I really don’t know why you still keep pushing this narrative that the band is somehow obliged to rules -rules you made up- to play certain songs. They could play Zep IV in its entirety for all I care (which would’ve been hilarious). I mean, god forbid they feel an ounce of external inspiration.

You complain about stale setlists and then complain when they actually do something different.

[BigAl84]

Originally Posted by sue

That stupid stupid dance during Gold dust woman was toe cringing embarrassing..
I never understood why someone …in the band, management, lighting bloke just someone, never said…
that dance you do it’s bad, real bad.

We all know why nobody spoke up!!! You wind up kicked out of the band. She's such an ego maniac she has no interest in the bands opinion. Plain and simple.

[sue]

Originally Posted by BigAl84

We all know why nobody spoke up!!! You wind up kicked out of the band. She's such an ego maniac she has no interest in the bands opinion. Plain and simple.

Haha…the real reason Lindsey was fired…
Not smirking, or chatting to Christine…No
He told her …your bum looks big when you do the artistic Crackhead dance.

[BigAl84]

Originally Posted by sue

Haha…the real reason Lindsey was fired…
Not smirking, or chatting to Christine…No
He told her …your bum looks big when you do the artistic Crackhead dance.

You wouldn't say that to Bob Dylan!!!

[sue]

Originally Posted by BigAl84

You wouldn't say that to Bob Dylan!!!

Too true..my husband has 28 Bob cds and 7 old vinyls.
So Bob is God…